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On May 30 2014 12:02 Amiko wrote:
@27ninjabunnies:
Please give me your read on slOosh.
So i made a case on jabberz, and he was like, hmm straightforward, and votes. He never once questioned it before voting, just insta votes. I feel town would atleast filterdive them and check for themselves, but he didn't give his read until after i questioned him for it. So for me, thats super scummy.
On May 28 2014 03:01 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 02:59 Alakaslam wrote:On May 28 2014 02:09 slOosh wrote:
Seems straightforward.
##Vote: jabberwockzerg ##Vote: jabberwockzerg How is it straightforward for you when you dismissed the whole thing as meta?
This is weird, when he said it was straightforward, then questions slam on his vote.
The rest of his filter is basically semi commenting on everyone else's reads, and he never offers up his own. You can see for yourself, his filter is only 2 pages.
I actually wouldn't mind him being put up for a lynch today.
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On May 30 2014 12:02 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 11:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Im super glad chrom was town there.
. Sorry for not being more active through the night.
I think the lynch should be fuba, or mZ, ill give reads why in a minute since I just got home. Just wanted to update.
Anything specific yall want me to look at?? Please look at palmar.
Mmmk. So this is the first game ive played with palmer (outside of the cell mafia game we are playing right now)
I find it a bit weird he wanted to lynch me for putting XD. Even though he claimed it wasnt trolly, it seemed pretty much like he was trolling.
I find it even weirder gooble called him out for it. I thought it was funny. I find scum usually question more trolly stuff to try and push mislynches, so i would look at gooble for that.
Im feeling pretty town on palmer, he didnt just sheep my push on jabber, but he gave reasonings for it after, and questioned Jabber for it.
I think he points out a pretty good thing on MZ here:
On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".
Welcome to my scum tier.
And here
+ Show Spoiler +On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms (aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain. Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what else I don't like?
Amiko's not as active as he usually is.
Yes, he's making big posts and big cases.
Yes, he has been the most substantial player so far, in terms of post content.
But he's not as active.
Other games, he's always around, asking people questions and the like.
This game, not so much. You've thrown around a lot of suspicions this game. Instead of making a vague statement like this, interpret what it means. If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand. Instead tell us why this is a problem, maybe provide some examples if you're gonna cite his meta. The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people. On May 28 2014 16:43 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 13:55 slOosh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms ( aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain. On May 28 2014 08:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what else I don't like?
Amiko's not as active as he usually is.
Yes, he's making big posts and big cases.
Yes, he has been the most substantial player so far, in terms of post content.
But he's not as active.
Other games, he's always around, asking people questions and the like.
This game, not so much. You've thrown around a lot of suspicions this game. Instead of making a vague statement like this, interpret what it means. If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand. Instead tell us why this is a problem, maybe provide some examples if you're gonna cite his meta. The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people. Palmar could you please explain your MZ read more? Which part of it do you not get? "If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand." This is basically saying "If you don't elaborate, you're acting like mafia". When in reality if MZ is town, he shouldn't care whether or not i acts like mafia, but if he is mafia. If MZ is town and thinks i is town his logical explanation should be "If you don't elaborate, you won't convince anyone". Because if MZ thinks i is town, he wouldn't care about i doing something potentially scummy for the sake of it being scummy, and rather because it is not helpful. However if MZ thinks i is mafia, why is he explaining the steps i can take to remove any suspicion MZ might have to him. It's like me saying "hey, you just made a case that is wrong, that is very mafia like. please make another case that is right so I don't have to call you mafia." It's just an absurd way of playing the game. The only reasonable conclusion is that MZ must think i is town, and thus it makes no sense for MZ to point out something i does looks like something mafia does. The reason I created in my head is that MZ knows i is town, and doesn't feel the need to call him mafia right now, but does leave the open-ended suspicion for use later.
Also, i find sqrts thing on palmer weird. He goes "palmer do more work" but palmer has done a lot of work. He has given reads, questioned things, and looks like he is trying to figure out the game,
I wouldn't lynch him today, but give a look at gooble and sqrt after reading this,
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Yes, i know! I am terrible for slacking off here.
I see votes are currently on sloosh and MZ?
Ill look through each of them and give my thoughts... (Though i think i did already on sloosh. Playing two games is a lot tougher than i thought)
Anything else i need to look at gentlemen?
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My case on sloosh isnt as extensive as amikos, but i agree. I think sloosh might be the lynch for today
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On May 31 2014 05:26 Amiko wrote:
@27ninjabunnies:
I was already sure I was going to make a case on slOosh when I asked you for your thoughts, but I was able to feel good about you as town for raising the points you did before I committed to the case.
Oh really?
Umm thanks lol.
I think im actually going to bed.
I didnt get much sleep last night. Ill post later tonight though! Hopefully theres more to slooshs filter by then
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Wow no one has commented in awhile, anyone around?
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I mean. Idk. I prob need to read the last few pages, but im super tired... Lol
Yeah, i think ill just post in the morning.
Sloosh, palmer, mz probz scum.
Will discuss later
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Maybe even sqrt... I almost forgot about that dude.
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I know i said i would make a case, but important things came up at work...
So
##Vote: Sloosh
And ill be back after deadline. Sorrryyyyyyy
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Woo scum lynched!!!! Lol...
Even if i jumped out it without an actual case. Amikos was pretty good tho, not gonna lie.
Ima catch up on the pages i missed, about 8 behind!
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Wait, we got TWO MAFIA?!
Gg boys.
Lol at gobble for not voting.
Ill check that amiko and get back to you.
Im just shocked over the two mafia. Lol
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On June 01 2014 12:49 Amiko wrote:
Ok. I mean generally I'd like everyone to comment on:
- Thoughts on day 2
- Thoughts on voting at the end of the day
- Any vote analysis thoughts you have
- Anything in the filters from slOosh/gobble that you find meaningful
If you have scumreads on M_Z / Palmar / whoever, weigh in and say if it has changed at all based on the stuff above.
And yeah we are in a great position with 8 town vs 1 scum, but please don't start making plans for the next few days when we have just gotten a fair amount of new information.
Thoughts on day 2: i didnt read shizz from day 2, and just voted sloosh because you seemed townie, and it was a good case.
I do admit i bw the shit outta that vote. Score points for me.
Haru to me seems a bit odd, tbh. Idk.
Like his end of day stuff, and he was pretty sure sloosh was town. Idk ill look more into it.
Also, this post i made early.
Id look at sqrt next. Maybe palmer, but i still wouldnt lynch him. You can look at the post i made below as to why ( the gooble calling palmer out for the vote on me) Id have to look more into MZ
On May 30 2014 12:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 12:02 HaruRH wrote:On May 30 2014 11:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Im super glad chrom was town there.
. Sorry for not being more active through the night.
I think the lynch should be fuba, or mZ, ill give reads why in a minute since I just got home. Just wanted to update.
Anything specific yall want me to look at?? Please look at palmar. Mmmk. So this is the first game ive played with palmer (outside of the cell mafia game we are playing right now) I find it a bit weird he wanted to lynch me for putting XD. Even though he claimed it wasnt trolly, it seemed pretty much like he was trolling. I find it even weirder gooble called him out for it. I thought it was funny. I find scum usually question more trolly stuff to try and push mislynches, so i would look at gooble for that. Im feeling pretty town on palmer, he didnt just sheep my push on jabber, but he gave reasonings for it after, and questioned Jabber for it. I think he points out a pretty good thing on MZ here: Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".
Welcome to my scum tier. And here + Show Spoiler +On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms (aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain. Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what else I don't like?
Amiko's not as active as he usually is.
Yes, he's making big posts and big cases.
Yes, he has been the most substantial player so far, in terms of post content.
But he's not as active.
Other games, he's always around, asking people questions and the like.
This game, not so much. You've thrown around a lot of suspicions this game. Instead of making a vague statement like this, interpret what it means. If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand. Instead tell us why this is a problem, maybe provide some examples if you're gonna cite his meta. The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people. On May 28 2014 16:43 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 13:55 slOosh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms ( aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain. On May 28 2014 08:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On May 28 2014 08:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what else I don't like?
Amiko's not as active as he usually is.
Yes, he's making big posts and big cases.
Yes, he has been the most substantial player so far, in terms of post content.
But he's not as active.
Other games, he's always around, asking people questions and the like.
This game, not so much. You've thrown around a lot of suspicions this game. Instead of making a vague statement like this, interpret what it means. If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand. Instead tell us why this is a problem, maybe provide some examples if you're gonna cite his meta. The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people. Palmar could you please explain your MZ read more? Which part of it do you not get? "If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand." This is basically saying "If you don't elaborate, you're acting like mafia". When in reality if MZ is town, he shouldn't care whether or not i acts like mafia, but if he is mafia. If MZ is town and thinks i is town his logical explanation should be "If you don't elaborate, you won't convince anyone". Because if MZ thinks i is town, he wouldn't care about i doing something potentially scummy for the sake of it being scummy, and rather because it is not helpful. However if MZ thinks i is mafia, why is he explaining the steps i can take to remove any suspicion MZ might have to him. It's like me saying "hey, you just made a case that is wrong, that is very mafia like. please make another case that is right so I don't have to call you mafia." It's just an absurd way of playing the game. The only reasonable conclusion is that MZ must think i is town, and thus it makes no sense for MZ to point out something i does looks like something mafia does. The reason I created in my head is that MZ knows i is town, and doesn't feel the need to call him mafia right now, but does leave the open-ended suspicion for use later. Also, i find sqrts thing on palmer weird. He goes "palmer do more work" but palmer has done a lot of work. He has given reads, questioned things, and looks like he is trying to figure out the game, I wouldn't lynch him today, but give a look at gooble and sqrt after reading this,
Here are some posts from gooble on mz
On May 28 2014 08:51 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:47 Alakaslam wrote:On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".
Welcome to my scum tier. I agree. Do you have anything more to add than I Agree? Personally I feel MZ's bet hedging is more a case of not being confident of his reads more than him trying to scatter attention as a mafia.
On May 28 2014 08:51 gobbledydook wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2014 08:47 Alakaslam wrote:On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".
Welcome to my scum tier. I agree. Do you have anything more to add than I Agree? Personally I feel MZ's bet hedging is more a case of not being confident of his reads more than him trying to scatter attention as a mafia.
Gooble never outright calls MZ scum, kinda wishy washy, then calls him town, but instead goes on fuba.
I dont think fuba is mafia based on gobble's reads. He was pretty hard on fuba, and i dont think he would bus here. Especially since one partner is already up for a lynch.
Now onto slOosh
I dont like his posting. I couldnt really pinpoint anything out of it.
He wanted to lynch mz, but gooble didnt, so maybe a bus from sloosh to earn townie points?
Maybe slam as mafia?
Neither of them really mentioned him... Hmm...
Id look at MZ, sqrt, and Slam for the next day.
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On June 02 2014 09:55 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
if alakaslam doesn't die he's scum.
How does that make sense?
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Woo! Another game won!!!
Sorry i wasnt all into this game before my death. Was too busy being mafia in the other game!
But gg.
Im really not sure why i died over amiko there in all honesty.
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On June 10 2014 17:29 marvellosity wrote:
modkill + non-existent cop check (this was really really criminally bad) + afk townie on last day made this game pretty... well, meaningless overall
gg
I know im new to tl and all.
I like you.....but then sometimes i wanna strangle you!
No game is meaningless!!! We all learn from our mistakes, and can better our game in one way or another. That's what is so great about newbie games.
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