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I'd like comments on the following so I can try to read you guys a little better.
@sqrt, @Alakaslam:
Look at slOosh's death post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=38#747)
Then, could tell me what you think of this post:
On June 01 2014 11:32 HaruRH wrote:
In fact, I think we should lynch everyone on sloosh's 'death list'.
@HaruRH:
Please hold off on explaining that comment until after at least one of them responds.
Would you tell me what you think of Alakaslam's day 2?
(I also have that question earlier for you and sqrt regarding Palmar/M_Z.)
Palmar:
On June 01 2014 10:20 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2014 16:23 Palmar wrote:
I think I could throw my weight behind a sloosh vote.
I have a feeling the mafia team is sloosh, MZ, Gobbley Crossing fingers for 3/3 but now I'm not so sure
On June 01 2014 17:52 Palmar wrote:
I really don't care. If I'm wrong on MZ we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
First post indicates some hesitancy on M_Z.
Second post returns to being fairly sure.
Would you explain the concerns you had in the first post and why you dismissed them?
@mderg:
I dunno. Do you want me to talk about anything in particular?
I might not give you a response till a post just before night ends, though.
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Amiko, how do you feel about this predetermined lynch order that seems to be the general consensus right now?
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I don't mind answering that now.
I think attempting to plan out our lynch for tomorrow is not useful discussion.
We can figure out the best lynch for tomorrow tomorrow.
I don't hate that they talked about it though, cause it gives me something to pressure them on (M_Z / Palmar as the first two scum, and whether to follow slOosh's death list and what that means)
IMO tonight is better served rereading what we already have with new knowledge (that gobble & slOosh are both confirmed scum).
We saw people at the end of d2 talk about how the day and votes had such great information- so why aren't we seeing people attempt to use anything in d2 to justify their points?
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(That last question is rhetorical) :D
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On June 02 2014 03:09 Amiko wrote:
I don't mind answering that now.
I think attempting to plan out our lynch for tomorrow is not useful discussion.
We can figure out the best lynch for tomorrow tomorrow.
I don't hate that they talked about it though, cause it gives me something to pressure them on (M_Z / Palmar as the first two scum, and whether to follow slOosh's death list and what that means)
IMO tonight is better served rereading what we already have with new knowledge (that gobble & slOosh are both confirmed scum).
We saw people at the end of d2 talk about how the day and votes had such great information- so why aren't we seeing people attempt to use anything in d2 to justify their points?
As you can probably guess I´m thinking about this in a similar way. Discussing where to look for scum and pressuring these guys when the lynch comes up seems to be more reasonable. Even though I think the remaining scum is in that lynch list I think that some actual discussion would be helpful.
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Btw @mderg-
On June 02 2014 02:41 Amiko wrote:@sqrt, @Alakaslam: Look at slOosh's death post (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=38#747) Then, could tell me what you think of this post: Show nested quote +On June 01 2014 11:32 HaruRH wrote:
In fact, I think we should lynch everyone on sloosh's 'death list'.
I would like to hear from sqrt/Alakaslam on this first, but do take a look at this even if you stay quiet since I it gave me some thoughts on Haru.
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Oh yeah also
@fuba
You should weigh in at some point whether you think your case on sqrt stands, or if anything has changed to make him more or less suspicious to you.
Your case yesterday basically got ignored because the focus was on slOosh vs M_Z, it's something I think we should discuss at least somewhat tomorrow.
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@Amiko I'm not sure on MZ (mostly because if he was mafia wouldn't he just have surrendered by now?). But I still want to lynch him.
I still think he's the correct lynch, I'm just not entirely convinced I'm going to end up being right. It's just normal doubt. "It can't be this easy".
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I see reason to actually vote fuba, amiko.
However there is always WIFOM in what scum players say.
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@Slam:
Haru wants to lynch
"everyone on sloosh's 'death list'"
If you look at slOosh's death list, would you list each player Haru wants to lynch?
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I'm not trying to make you do menial tasks so sorry if it comes off that way :x
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What of it with my being roleblocked by the way?
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I'm actually happy dying for the cause since I'm not gonna lie I've played a very shitty game. My one request is that you all agree to lynch a target of my choice after I die.
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On June 02 2014 04:59 Amiko wrote:
@Slam:
Haru wants to lynch
"everyone on sloosh's 'death list'"
If you look at slOosh's death list, would you list each player Haru wants to lynch?
Sloosh wants m-z dead first (I disagree)
Sloosh then wants fuba, gobble, you I think, I already forget let me look again.
My point is it looks like WIFOM of Svengali but there is more on that page, looks bad on fuba
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Oh lol sloosh only wants to kill m-z
Lol
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Or wait did HAru misinterpret? Maybe he wants to lynch 27NB, You, Fuba, & carp I orget names so fast
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Oh yeah I agree that there's wifom to it.
Here's what I was getting at-
Haru says he wants to lynch according to slOosh's death list.
If it's everyone on the list, then it would go
M_Z -> gobble (already dead) -> bunnies -> (maybe Palmar? he is only mentioned in relation to bunnies) -> Fuba -> Me
It's unclear if he means the same order, but it seems strange that he would reference the list when I'm on it and he's townreading me.
I am not sure what Haru's current read of bunnies is, so I guess I don't know if it is consistent that she is on the list.
I'll say if he Haru did mean the same order slOosh had, it is also inconsistent with his other posts around the same time where he wants lynch M_Z, then Palmar (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=43#857).
As an aside, this post by Haru is also weird-
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451317-detention-mafia?page=42#837
Here, he is indicating if slOosh's flipped scum and gobble was not modkilled, we would have followed slOosh's last post and suspected gobble. But, slOosh flipped mafia... so I feel like the natural response would be to mistrust what mafia says in their final posts.
(maybe I'm just salty because Haru is more willing to sheep a dead mafia than me :D)
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On June 02 2014 05:06 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh lol sloosh only wants to kill m-z
Lol
Yeah exactly
You can read Haru as saying he only wants to kill the people slOosh list as scum.
But in that case, Haru's post makes no sense - why would he follow a "list" of one person?
If you read it the other way, that he wants to lynch everyone slOosh mentioned regardless, it includes me and bunnies, and maybe include Palmar and maybe doesn't, which is also weird.
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