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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2601 Posts
June 01 2014 02:33 GMT
#861
Fuck I forgot to vote!

GG
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 01 2014 02:50 GMT
#862
Lol gg gobble.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 01 2014 02:58 GMT
#863
Woo scum lynched!!!! Lol...

Even if i jumped out it without an actual case. Amikos was pretty good tho, not gonna lie.

Ima catch up on the pages i missed, about 8 behind!
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 03:31 GMT
#864
gg slOosh and gg gobble

@Meepak_Ziphh, I think you are (justifiably) the presumptive lynch tomorrow. If you are town, please pick your top scumread(s) and make cases.

--
I only have a few initial thoughts right now -
I'm pretty familiar with slOosh's filter, but I'd appreciate if you guys take a look over day 2 and see if that gives you anything. Please do me a favor and read gobble's filter to see if anything sticks out.

I have some setup speculation I might share tomorrow based off Alakaslam claiming roleblock d1.
If I'm alive tomorrow remind me and I can share it.

I don't know whether to put much emphasis to put on the players who moved their votes around at the end of the day.
There's only one mafia still alive, so it's clear at least some of these players were town.

@sqrt & @HaruRH:
Would you both explain your doubts on Palmar? I think I asked before, but give me your current feelings.
I'm asking you both in particular because you both name M_Z as the best lynch for tomorrow. Palmar seemed to want to lynch M_Z solidly through D2... so, why do you feel Palmar is the second scummiest player?

I'm not going to weigh in on my feelings here, but I think this needs some explanation.

Also
@sqrt, @ninjabunnies:
What do you make of HaruRH's end of day comments?
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 01 2014 03:33 GMT
#865
Wait, we got TWO MAFIA?!

Gg boys.

Lol at gobble for not voting.

Ill check that amiko and get back to you.

Im just shocked over the two mafia. Lol
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
June 01 2014 03:49 GMT
#866
Ok. I mean generally I'd like everyone to comment on:
- Thoughts on day 2
- Thoughts on voting at the end of the day
- Any vote analysis thoughts you have
- Anything in the filters from slOosh/gobble that you find meaningful

If you have scumreads on M_Z / Palmar / whoever, weigh in and say if it has changed at all based on the stuff above.

And yeah we are in a great position with 8 town vs 1 scum, but please don't start making plans for the next few days when we have just gotten a fair amount of new information.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
June 01 2014 04:48 GMT
#867
On June 01 2014 12:49 Amiko wrote:
Ok. I mean generally I'd like everyone to comment on:
- Thoughts on day 2
- Thoughts on voting at the end of the day
- Any vote analysis thoughts you have
- Anything in the filters from slOosh/gobble that you find meaningful

If you have scumreads on M_Z / Palmar / whoever, weigh in and say if it has changed at all based on the stuff above.

And yeah we are in a great position with 8 town vs 1 scum, but please don't start making plans for the next few days when we have just gotten a fair amount of new information.


Thoughts on day 2: i didnt read shizz from day 2, and just voted sloosh because you seemed townie, and it was a good case.

I do admit i bw the shit outta that vote. Score points for me.

Haru to me seems a bit odd, tbh. Idk.

Like his end of day stuff, and he was pretty sure sloosh was town. Idk ill look more into it.

Also, this post i made early.

Id look at sqrt next. Maybe palmer, but i still wouldnt lynch him. You can look at the post i made below as to why ( the gooble calling palmer out for the vote on me) Id have to look more into MZ

On May 30 2014 12:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On May 30 2014 12:02 HaruRH wrote:
On May 30 2014 11:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Im super glad chrom was town there.
. Sorry for not being more active through the night.

I think the lynch should be fuba, or mZ, ill give reads why in a minute since I just got home. Just wanted to update.

Anything specific yall want me to look at??


Please look at palmar.


Mmmk. So this is the first game ive played with palmer (outside of the cell mafia game we are playing right now)

I find it a bit weird he wanted to lynch me for putting XD. Even though he claimed it wasnt trolly, it seemed pretty much like he was trolling.

I find it even weirder gooble called him out for it. I thought it was funny. I find scum usually question more trolly stuff to try and push mislynches, so i would look at gooble for that.

Im feeling pretty town on palmer, he didnt just sheep my push on jabber, but he gave reasonings for it after, and questioned Jabber for it.

I think he points out a pretty good thing on MZ here:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".

Welcome to my scum tier.


And here

+ Show Spoiler +
On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:
If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms (aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain.

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 08:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what else I don't like?
Amiko's not as active as he usually is.
Yes, he's making big posts and big cases.
Yes, he has been the most substantial player so far, in terms of post content.
But he's not as active.
Other games, he's always around, asking people questions and the like.
This game, not so much.

You've thrown around a lot of suspicions this game. Instead of making a vague statement like this, interpret what it means. If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand. Instead tell us why this is a problem, maybe provide some examples if you're gonna cite his meta.


The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people.



On May 28 2014 16:43 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 13:55 slOosh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:51 Palmar wrote:
If someone isn't following why that last MZ post raises alarms (aside from the fact he's calling everyone mafia), I'll explain.

On May 28 2014 08:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:26 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
You know what else I don't like?
Amiko's not as active as he usually is.
Yes, he's making big posts and big cases.
Yes, he has been the most substantial player so far, in terms of post content.
But he's not as active.
Other games, he's always around, asking people questions and the like.
This game, not so much.

You've thrown around a lot of suspicions this game. Instead of making a vague statement like this, interpret what it means. If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand. Instead tell us why this is a problem, maybe provide some examples if you're gonna cite his meta.


The bolded quote is very much not trying to figure out i's alignment. If MZ thinks there is any chance i is mafia, why is he trying to stop i from digging his own grave under the threat of "if you keep doing this I'll be suspicious of you!!!!". This looks like MZ wants to read i as town, while still looking like he's poking people.


Palmar could you please explain your MZ read more?


Which part of it do you not get?

"If you leave it vague like this, it makes it seem like you're just trying to throw dirt on him without actually having to take a stand."

This is basically saying

"If you don't elaborate, you're acting like mafia".

When in reality if MZ is town, he shouldn't care whether or not i acts like mafia, but if he is mafia. If MZ is town and thinks i is town his logical explanation should be

"If you don't elaborate, you won't convince anyone".

Because if MZ thinks i is town, he wouldn't care about i doing something potentially scummy for the sake of it being scummy, and rather because it is not helpful. However if MZ thinks i is mafia, why is he explaining the steps i can take to remove any suspicion MZ might have to him. It's like me saying "hey, you just made a case that is wrong, that is very mafia like. please make another case that is right so I don't have to call you mafia." It's just an absurd way of playing the game.

The only reasonable conclusion is that MZ must think i is town, and thus it makes no sense for MZ to point out something i does looks like something mafia does.

The reason I created in my head is that MZ knows i is town, and doesn't feel the need to call him mafia right now, but does leave the open-ended suspicion for use later.




Also, i find sqrts thing on palmer weird. He goes "palmer do more work" but palmer has done a lot of work. He has given reads, questioned things, and looks like he is trying to figure out the game,

I wouldn't lynch him today, but give a look at gooble and sqrt after reading this,


Here are some posts from gooble on mz


On May 28 2014 08:51 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 08:47 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".

Welcome to my scum tier.

I agree.


Do you have anything more to add than I Agree?

Personally I feel MZ's bet hedging is more a case of not being confident of his reads more than him trying to scatter attention as a mafia.

On May 28 2014 08:51 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 08:47 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:45 Palmar wrote:
MZ not everyone in the game is mafia. fuba and haru look bad, jwz is your most likely scumread and you could get behind a lynch on me, and now you're telling sqrtofneg1 that he might be mafia, while in the same breath explaining to him how he can get you to drop your "suspicion".

Welcome to my scum tier.

I agree.


Do you have anything more to add than I Agree?

Personally I feel MZ's bet hedging is more a case of not being confident of his reads more than him trying to scatter attention as a mafia.


Gooble never outright calls MZ scum, kinda wishy washy, then calls him town, but instead goes on fuba.

I dont think fuba is mafia based on gobble's reads. He was pretty hard on fuba, and i dont think he would bus here. Especially since one partner is already up for a lynch.


Now onto slOosh

I dont like his posting. I couldnt really pinpoint anything out of it.

He wanted to lynch mz, but gooble didnt, so maybe a bus from sloosh to earn townie points?

Maybe slam as mafia?
Neither of them really mentioned him... Hmm...

Id look at MZ, sqrt, and Slam for the next day.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 01 2014 07:00 GMT
#868
Nah I am not mafia but feel free to lynch me tomorrow

I gotta go before lylo
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2014 08:52 GMT
#869
I really don't care. If I'm wrong on MZ we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
Computer says mafia
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 01 2014 09:52 GMT
#870
I don´t even want to imagine what would have happened, if gobble voted and MZ was town...

In general I think scum is either MZ or likely to be found on the MZ wagon. I´m rather confident that it´s one between MZ, Palmar, sqrt, HaruRH. I don´t think it´s fuba, he started that and put himself in the spotlight in a way you probably wouldn´t want to as scum. The voteswitch at the end was strange because I don´t think it was going too easily. I mean the case was solid and based on sloosh´s whole game, and there were still like 3 people voting MZ.



On June 01 2014 09:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 09:40 Amiko wrote:
Okay, so do you think these points are wrong?
What is wrong?

also @Palmar and @fuba you should be answering this too

He could just be lazy town, as palmar (or was it fuba?) said.

That was actually me and his defense suggested otherwise, so I don´t think it was really a solid point at the end of the day.


On June 01 2014 10:19 HaruRH wrote:
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On June 01 2014 06:40 slOosh wrote:
Meapak is scum and skirting by another day because of the wagon on me. Please refer back to my case and don't get sidetracked. Make sure he gets lynched tomorrow. The fact that he comes in to slap his vote despite no one actually asking him why he did it is proof he isn't really attentive to thread.

Pressure gobbles next. His huge post concerning MZ doesn't really seem to have a conclusion, and it's not clear how exactly he is reading MZ as town.

With bunny,
On May 31 2014 13:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I mean. Idk. I prob need to read the last few pages, but im super tired... Lol

Yeah, i think ill just post in the morning.

Sloosh, palmer, mz probz scum.

Will discuss later

Find out what she means by this. As someone who was pretty involved day 1, she should question a palmer mz scum team the way they went against each other. Likewise for day 2. This is a very strange post.

I don't think fuba is as scummy as people are making him to be. His reads of MZ and sqrt seem very reasonable in that they aren't leaning hard either way but seem to be developing over time, considering that they could be town / mafia, instead of just assuming that they are one and going with it, which is what mafia do.

Amiko ... I'm not too sure. I could see scum making a strong push for MZ, since he brushes off anything I say about MZ and makes sure the focus is on me, or it could just be misguided townie thinking I'm the stronger lynch. I would be watchful of what his actions relating to non-MZ players are, especially during the next day.

Good luck town. Watch out for busses tomorrow.


If gobbles did not die out of a modkill, he would be our next suspect - and our next lynch. Did sloosh sell out his teammates?

I don´t think he sold out his teammates. His "reads" should probably not even taken into consideration right now since he was almost certainly going to get lynched at that point.


For now I´d still go with MZ. I read him as scum since the end of day 1.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2014 10:26 GMT
#871
I'm not worried really we have 3 mislynches and confirmed townies (the blues). Mafia can't CC them with only 1 scum left
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 01 2014 10:27 GMT
#872
Blues should claim before lylo probably
Computer says mafia
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 01 2014 11:35 GMT
#873
What I gathered from sloosh's last post is that he pretty much want gobble to be cleared out of suspicion along with everyone on the list. If gobble didnt get modkilled, almost everyone will clear gobble of his suspicions since a last post by sloosh the scum should be ignored.

What sloosh didnt expect is that gobble got modkilled instead. His plan to hide his scum friends were destroyed. Lynch everyone on his list.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 01 2014 11:37 GMT
#874
On June 01 2014 18:52 mderg wrote:
I don´t even want to imagine what would have happened, if gobble voted and MZ was town...

In general I think scum is either MZ or likely to be found on the MZ wagon. I´m rather confident that it´s one between MZ, Palmar, sqrt, HaruRH. I don´t think it´s fuba, he started that and put himself in the spotlight in a way you probably wouldn´t want to as scum. The voteswitch at the end was strange because I don´t think it was going too easily. I mean the case was solid and based on sloosh´s whole game, and there were still like 3 people voting MZ.



Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 09:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On June 01 2014 09:40 Amiko wrote:
Okay, so do you think these points are wrong?
What is wrong?

also @Palmar and @fuba you should be answering this too

He could just be lazy town, as palmar (or was it fuba?) said.

That was actually me and his defense suggested otherwise, so I don´t think it was really a solid point at the end of the day.


Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 10:19 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 06:40 slOosh wrote:
Meapak is scum and skirting by another day because of the wagon on me. Please refer back to my case and don't get sidetracked. Make sure he gets lynched tomorrow. The fact that he comes in to slap his vote despite no one actually asking him why he did it is proof he isn't really attentive to thread.

Pressure gobbles next. His huge post concerning MZ doesn't really seem to have a conclusion, and it's not clear how exactly he is reading MZ as town.

With bunny,
On May 31 2014 13:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I mean. Idk. I prob need to read the last few pages, but im super tired... Lol

Yeah, i think ill just post in the morning.

Sloosh, palmer, mz probz scum.

Will discuss later

Find out what she means by this. As someone who was pretty involved day 1, she should question a palmer mz scum team the way they went against each other. Likewise for day 2. This is a very strange post.

I don't think fuba is as scummy as people are making him to be. His reads of MZ and sqrt seem very reasonable in that they aren't leaning hard either way but seem to be developing over time, considering that they could be town / mafia, instead of just assuming that they are one and going with it, which is what mafia do.

Amiko ... I'm not too sure. I could see scum making a strong push for MZ, since he brushes off anything I say about MZ and makes sure the focus is on me, or it could just be misguided townie thinking I'm the stronger lynch. I would be watchful of what his actions relating to non-MZ players are, especially during the next day.

Good luck town. Watch out for busses tomorrow.


If gobbles did not die out of a modkill, he would be our next suspect - and our next lynch. Did sloosh sell out his teammates?

I don´t think he sold out his teammates. His "reads" should probably not even taken into consideration right now since he was almost certainly going to get lynched at that point.


For now I´d still go with MZ. I read him as scum since the end of day 1.


MZ is third on his list.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 01 2014 11:56 GMT
#875
On June 01 2014 20:37 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 18:52 mderg wrote:
I don´t even want to imagine what would have happened, if gobble voted and MZ was town...

In general I think scum is either MZ or likely to be found on the MZ wagon. I´m rather confident that it´s one between MZ, Palmar, sqrt, HaruRH. I don´t think it´s fuba, he started that and put himself in the spotlight in a way you probably wouldn´t want to as scum. The voteswitch at the end was strange because I don´t think it was going too easily. I mean the case was solid and based on sloosh´s whole game, and there were still like 3 people voting MZ.



On June 01 2014 09:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On June 01 2014 09:40 Amiko wrote:
Okay, so do you think these points are wrong?
What is wrong?

also @Palmar and @fuba you should be answering this too

He could just be lazy town, as palmar (or was it fuba?) said.

That was actually me and his defense suggested otherwise, so I don´t think it was really a solid point at the end of the day.


On June 01 2014 10:19 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 06:40 slOosh wrote:
Meapak is scum and skirting by another day because of the wagon on me. Please refer back to my case and don't get sidetracked. Make sure he gets lynched tomorrow. The fact that he comes in to slap his vote despite no one actually asking him why he did it is proof he isn't really attentive to thread.

Pressure gobbles next. His huge post concerning MZ doesn't really seem to have a conclusion, and it's not clear how exactly he is reading MZ as town.

With bunny,
On May 31 2014 13:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I mean. Idk. I prob need to read the last few pages, but im super tired... Lol

Yeah, i think ill just post in the morning.

Sloosh, palmer, mz probz scum.

Will discuss later

Find out what she means by this. As someone who was pretty involved day 1, she should question a palmer mz scum team the way they went against each other. Likewise for day 2. This is a very strange post.

I don't think fuba is as scummy as people are making him to be. His reads of MZ and sqrt seem very reasonable in that they aren't leaning hard either way but seem to be developing over time, considering that they could be town / mafia, instead of just assuming that they are one and going with it, which is what mafia do.

Amiko ... I'm not too sure. I could see scum making a strong push for MZ, since he brushes off anything I say about MZ and makes sure the focus is on me, or it could just be misguided townie thinking I'm the stronger lynch. I would be watchful of what his actions relating to non-MZ players are, especially during the next day.

Good luck town. Watch out for busses tomorrow.


If gobbles did not die out of a modkill, he would be our next suspect - and our next lynch. Did sloosh sell out his teammates?

I don´t think he sold out his teammates. His "reads" should probably not even taken into consideration right now since he was almost certainly going to get lynched at that point.


For now I´d still go with MZ. I read him as scum since the end of day 1.


MZ is third on his list.

I probably worded that poorly. What I meant is that we can´t be sure what his last "reads" mean.
What exactly do you mean by selling out?
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 01 2014 13:01 GMT
#876
On June 01 2014 20:56 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 20:37 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 18:52 mderg wrote:
I don´t even want to imagine what would have happened, if gobble voted and MZ was town...

In general I think scum is either MZ or likely to be found on the MZ wagon. I´m rather confident that it´s one between MZ, Palmar, sqrt, HaruRH. I don´t think it´s fuba, he started that and put himself in the spotlight in a way you probably wouldn´t want to as scum. The voteswitch at the end was strange because I don´t think it was going too easily. I mean the case was solid and based on sloosh´s whole game, and there were still like 3 people voting MZ.



On June 01 2014 09:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On June 01 2014 09:40 Amiko wrote:
Okay, so do you think these points are wrong?
What is wrong?

also @Palmar and @fuba you should be answering this too

He could just be lazy town, as palmar (or was it fuba?) said.

That was actually me and his defense suggested otherwise, so I don´t think it was really a solid point at the end of the day.


On June 01 2014 10:19 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 06:40 slOosh wrote:
Meapak is scum and skirting by another day because of the wagon on me. Please refer back to my case and don't get sidetracked. Make sure he gets lynched tomorrow. The fact that he comes in to slap his vote despite no one actually asking him why he did it is proof he isn't really attentive to thread.

Pressure gobbles next. His huge post concerning MZ doesn't really seem to have a conclusion, and it's not clear how exactly he is reading MZ as town.

With bunny,
On May 31 2014 13:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I mean. Idk. I prob need to read the last few pages, but im super tired... Lol

Yeah, i think ill just post in the morning.

Sloosh, palmer, mz probz scum.

Will discuss later

Find out what she means by this. As someone who was pretty involved day 1, she should question a palmer mz scum team the way they went against each other. Likewise for day 2. This is a very strange post.

I don't think fuba is as scummy as people are making him to be. His reads of MZ and sqrt seem very reasonable in that they aren't leaning hard either way but seem to be developing over time, considering that they could be town / mafia, instead of just assuming that they are one and going with it, which is what mafia do.

Amiko ... I'm not too sure. I could see scum making a strong push for MZ, since he brushes off anything I say about MZ and makes sure the focus is on me, or it could just be misguided townie thinking I'm the stronger lynch. I would be watchful of what his actions relating to non-MZ players are, especially during the next day.

Good luck town. Watch out for busses tomorrow.


If gobbles did not die out of a modkill, he would be our next suspect - and our next lynch. Did sloosh sell out his teammates?

I don´t think he sold out his teammates. His "reads" should probably not even taken into consideration right now since he was almost certainly going to get lynched at that point.


For now I´d still go with MZ. I read him as scum since the end of day 1.


MZ is third on his list.

I probably worded that poorly. What I meant is that we can´t be sure what his last "reads" mean.
What exactly do you mean by selling out?


If I'm mafia, I will redirect all the attention to palmar or others like slam. Why ask people to pressure gobble and MZ?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 01 2014 13:12 GMT
#877
On June 01 2014 22:01 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 20:56 mderg wrote:
On June 01 2014 20:37 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 18:52 mderg wrote:
I don´t even want to imagine what would have happened, if gobble voted and MZ was town...

In general I think scum is either MZ or likely to be found on the MZ wagon. I´m rather confident that it´s one between MZ, Palmar, sqrt, HaruRH. I don´t think it´s fuba, he started that and put himself in the spotlight in a way you probably wouldn´t want to as scum. The voteswitch at the end was strange because I don´t think it was going too easily. I mean the case was solid and based on sloosh´s whole game, and there were still like 3 people voting MZ.



On June 01 2014 09:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On June 01 2014 09:40 Amiko wrote:
Okay, so do you think these points are wrong?
What is wrong?

also @Palmar and @fuba you should be answering this too

He could just be lazy town, as palmar (or was it fuba?) said.

That was actually me and his defense suggested otherwise, so I don´t think it was really a solid point at the end of the day.


On June 01 2014 10:19 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 06:40 slOosh wrote:
Meapak is scum and skirting by another day because of the wagon on me. Please refer back to my case and don't get sidetracked. Make sure he gets lynched tomorrow. The fact that he comes in to slap his vote despite no one actually asking him why he did it is proof he isn't really attentive to thread.

Pressure gobbles next. His huge post concerning MZ doesn't really seem to have a conclusion, and it's not clear how exactly he is reading MZ as town.

With bunny,
On May 31 2014 13:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I mean. Idk. I prob need to read the last few pages, but im super tired... Lol

Yeah, i think ill just post in the morning.

Sloosh, palmer, mz probz scum.

Will discuss later

Find out what she means by this. As someone who was pretty involved day 1, she should question a palmer mz scum team the way they went against each other. Likewise for day 2. This is a very strange post.

I don't think fuba is as scummy as people are making him to be. His reads of MZ and sqrt seem very reasonable in that they aren't leaning hard either way but seem to be developing over time, considering that they could be town / mafia, instead of just assuming that they are one and going with it, which is what mafia do.

Amiko ... I'm not too sure. I could see scum making a strong push for MZ, since he brushes off anything I say about MZ and makes sure the focus is on me, or it could just be misguided townie thinking I'm the stronger lynch. I would be watchful of what his actions relating to non-MZ players are, especially during the next day.

Good luck town. Watch out for busses tomorrow.


If gobbles did not die out of a modkill, he would be our next suspect - and our next lynch. Did sloosh sell out his teammates?

I don´t think he sold out his teammates. His "reads" should probably not even taken into consideration right now since he was almost certainly going to get lynched at that point.


For now I´d still go with MZ. I read him as scum since the end of day 1.


MZ is third on his list.

I probably worded that poorly. What I meant is that we can´t be sure what his last "reads" mean.
What exactly do you mean by selling out?


If I'm mafia, I will redirect all the attention to palmar or others like slam. Why ask people to pressure gobble and MZ?

He was most likely going to die either way. There was no way Palmar or Slam were gonna get lynched instead of him.
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 01 2014 13:25 GMT
#878
On June 01 2014 22:12 mderg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2014 22:01 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 20:56 mderg wrote:
On June 01 2014 20:37 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 18:52 mderg wrote:
I don´t even want to imagine what would have happened, if gobble voted and MZ was town...

In general I think scum is either MZ or likely to be found on the MZ wagon. I´m rather confident that it´s one between MZ, Palmar, sqrt, HaruRH. I don´t think it´s fuba, he started that and put himself in the spotlight in a way you probably wouldn´t want to as scum. The voteswitch at the end was strange because I don´t think it was going too easily. I mean the case was solid and based on sloosh´s whole game, and there were still like 3 people voting MZ.



On June 01 2014 09:41 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On June 01 2014 09:40 Amiko wrote:
Okay, so do you think these points are wrong?
What is wrong?

also @Palmar and @fuba you should be answering this too

He could just be lazy town, as palmar (or was it fuba?) said.

That was actually me and his defense suggested otherwise, so I don´t think it was really a solid point at the end of the day.


On June 01 2014 10:19 HaruRH wrote:
On June 01 2014 06:40 slOosh wrote:
Meapak is scum and skirting by another day because of the wagon on me. Please refer back to my case and don't get sidetracked. Make sure he gets lynched tomorrow. The fact that he comes in to slap his vote despite no one actually asking him why he did it is proof he isn't really attentive to thread.

Pressure gobbles next. His huge post concerning MZ doesn't really seem to have a conclusion, and it's not clear how exactly he is reading MZ as town.

With bunny,
On May 31 2014 13:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I mean. Idk. I prob need to read the last few pages, but im super tired... Lol

Yeah, i think ill just post in the morning.

Sloosh, palmer, mz probz scum.

Will discuss later

Find out what she means by this. As someone who was pretty involved day 1, she should question a palmer mz scum team the way they went against each other. Likewise for day 2. This is a very strange post.

I don't think fuba is as scummy as people are making him to be. His reads of MZ and sqrt seem very reasonable in that they aren't leaning hard either way but seem to be developing over time, considering that they could be town / mafia, instead of just assuming that they are one and going with it, which is what mafia do.

Amiko ... I'm not too sure. I could see scum making a strong push for MZ, since he brushes off anything I say about MZ and makes sure the focus is on me, or it could just be misguided townie thinking I'm the stronger lynch. I would be watchful of what his actions relating to non-MZ players are, especially during the next day.

Good luck town. Watch out for busses tomorrow.


If gobbles did not die out of a modkill, he would be our next suspect - and our next lynch. Did sloosh sell out his teammates?

I don´t think he sold out his teammates. His "reads" should probably not even taken into consideration right now since he was almost certainly going to get lynched at that point.


For now I´d still go with MZ. I read him as scum since the end of day 1.


MZ is third on his list.

I probably worded that poorly. What I meant is that we can´t be sure what his last "reads" mean.
What exactly do you mean by selling out?


If I'm mafia, I will redirect all the attention to palmar or others like slam. Why ask people to pressure gobble and MZ?

He was most likely going to die either way. There was no way Palmar or Slam were gonna get lynched instead of him.


Everyone knew that. It is just that he left gobble, MZ, bunnies and my name in it, and so far it is spot on with gobble being mafia.

If gobble did not get modkilled, we would almost definitely ignore gobble since slosh's reads cannot be trusted anymore.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 01 2014 13:27 GMT
#879
EBWOP

sloosh mentioned gooble as his primary target after he is lynched -> turned out to be mafia indeed.

slosh mentioned MZ as his second target ->???
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
June 01 2014 13:41 GMT
#880
On June 01 2014 22:27 HaruRH wrote:
EBWOP

sloosh mentioned gooble as his primary target after he is lynched -> turned out to be mafia indeed.

slosh mentioned MZ as his second target ->???

OK this sounds logical. Even though it´s purely association based.
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