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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 12 2014 18:31 GMT
#1801
This is the actual wagon of justice btw.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2014 18:32 GMT
#1802
OMGUS.net

See kotc.

Kthx
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 18:33 GMT
#1803
"ritoky has talked about literally nothing else other than me (and occasionally MZ), which is absolutely ridiculous from a town perspective"

not true; i've talked about him.

Furthermore, I find the entirety of your case to be fabricating, and stretching... because it is OMGUS, so you are tunneled in on him. It lead you to have a bad case.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2014 18:33 GMT
#1804
What is wrong with SNB lynch folks? I forgot
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2014 18:34 GMT
#1805
And what happened to the Yodic wisdom William Murray?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
June 12 2014 18:34 GMT
#1806
On June 13 2014 03:30 Chromatically wrote:
ritoky's filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/451310-tl-order-lxvi-mafia?user=ritoky

ritoky has talked about literally nothing else other than me (and occasionally MZ), which is absolutely ridiculous from a town perspective because I was never, in any world, getting lynched today. Every single one of his posts has to do with me. He doesn't give reads on lynch targets or people being discussed in the thread, he posts solely about me.

Scum motivation: look like you're active and pushing a case, don't have to think about who you're voting until you "consolidate" at deadline, only have to maintain one read
Town motivation: ???

You'll also notice that he never even pushes my case. He never tries to get other people to vote for me. As town, you would always try to get your one and only scumread lynched. As scum, you don't care, as long as you look active.

Relatedly, he is only here when someone calls him out. Seriously. Look at his entire filter. It's either arguing with me, or arguing with marv. He always responds quickly when someone does call him out, but he never posts anything of his own accord. This is a 100% scum tactic. He's active lurking in the thread but doing nothing. He doesn't actually want to push the thread forward, he just cares about defending himself.

His reasoning on me doesn't make sense (as I've said), because he doesn't actually believe it. What probably happened is that he saw Koshi's case on me and thought that I would be a good target to sheep onto, and then directly copied Koshi's reasoning from his case (explaining why his reasons are the same as Koshi's AND why he can't explain the TMI thing).


Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 10:28 ritoky wrote:
On June 12 2014 10:01 Chromatically wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:49 ritoky wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:35 Chromatically wrote:
On June 12 2014 09:22 ritoky wrote:
On June 12 2014 08:58 Chromatically wrote:
ritoky is a great second lynch if Koshi isn't happening. I like marv's point too.

I think I would go for a megalurker/someone who's not playing the game lynch after that.


OMGUS, the scum hunting mindset you been talking about?

Look, if you don't think that calling someone mafia for simply defending sianni (tiatica) qualifies you as having a strong read on sianni, then it is a difference of definitions. I think the proof is easily read in your filter.

How is it a difference of definitions if I'm scum? Wouldn't it be me purposefully misrepresenting my play?


Because I feel that the case I have already made follows very easily if you view what you gave as a strong read. I think you did.

I can say it again, but it isn't going to change. I think you gave a disproportionately strong read on sianni from a pretty inconclusive response (I thought it was slightly scummy at best). In order to make said conclusion from not very much I feel you have extra information. The only people with extra information right now are mafia. Since then you've done nothing to alleviate my worries about you, you've been hard defending and OMGUSing (which is completely contrary to the scum hunting mindset you were critical of sianni for).

And how is this not the exact same thing that you were critical of sianni for?

On June 12 2014 09:41 Chromatically wrote:
I think ketomai totally depends on what he posts next. The thing that happened in thread could have easily been a townie startled by people jumping on him before he starts playing. I agree that it's weird that he feels like he has to vote between round and Exo, but it's not really scummy..? He could have easily left his vote on himself and that would draw less attention.

What he posts next is the important part.


On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:

Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.


You just did the same exact non-committal thing. "Could be red, wait and see what happens"; that's not the scum hunting mindset you were preaching.

Once again, your extra information thing doesn't make sense. The only way I would have extra information about sinani that would give me a "too strong" read would be if we were scum together.

The difference between what I posted and what sinani posted is that ketomai has probably not started playing the game yet, making trying to read him rather pointless. sinani's read on JAT is completely noncommittal and overqualified, which you and many others have agreed on. Comparing what we posted doesn't say anything about my alignment anyway (at best it would make me a hypocrite), so there was really no reason at all for you to include this.

You can call it OMGUS if it makes you feel better, but that doesn't make the points against you less strong.

Anyway, I think this conversation is no longer useful at all and that I've made my case sufficiently clear.


Your read is exactly the same as the bolded portion. And hypocrisy and inconsistency can be scum mindset indicators, so I think they are relevant.

And personally I don't think you have a case, hence why I think it is an OMGUS. You're defensive and OMGUSing which is the opposite of the mindset you were pushing others to have. All of that just adds depth.

When I point out here that his hypocrisy reasons don't make me scum, he says that they can be "scum mindset indicators" which is vague garbage. He can't explain why hypocrisy would make me scum because he can't, it doesn't. He's not actually thinking about if I'm scum, he's looking for things to justify his read.


- does not do anything other than argue with/about me
- active lurking until people call him out
- doesn't actually push me for lynch
- reasoning doesn't make sense
This is like 100% scum.


you lied, I counted 2 posts out of 15 posts that doesn't include your name or your quotes.... hmm...
I'll sheep you for today because you're in my town totem.

##Unvote
##Vote: ritoky
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 12 2014 18:35 GMT
#1807
On June 13 2014 03:33 Bill Murray wrote:
"ritoky has talked about literally nothing else other than me (and occasionally MZ), which is absolutely ridiculous from a town perspective"

not true; i've talked about him.

Furthermore, I find the entirety of your case to be fabricating, and stretching... because it is OMGUS, so you are tunneled in on him. It lead you to have a bad case.

I'm saying that he has commented on nothing else, which is true. It doesn't matter if you have commented on him.

What about it is fabricated?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2014 18:35 GMT
#1808
Fabricate everything then it isn't a problem.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 12 2014 18:36 GMT
#1809
What are you even saying Slam?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
June 12 2014 18:37 GMT
#1810
Like you can say I'm confirmation biasing if you really think that I'm too far into OMGUSing. But I think the points are really good regardless of who he's tunneling.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2014 18:39 GMT
#1811
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 18:39 GMT
#1812
On June 13 2014 03:34 Alakaslam wrote:
And what happened to the Yodic wisdom William Murray?

marv stole my powers of chupazi
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#1813
On June 13 2014 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

ok so kingofthecats is like the only likely lynch at this point unless all the active players consolidate somewhere

we have an hour and change
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#1814
On June 13 2014 03:12 Chromatically wrote:
The case on Cats is good but it basically relies on him being experienced/good. He could be actually new or just really bad. ritoky has done things that are scum-motivated, not just bad. I'll consolidate my case because I think I wasn't very clear yesterday.

Slam told you already but in case you didn't get it - kotc is not new. He is from OMGUS. Any other reason why you would think he is town?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#1815
On June 13 2014 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

oh shit...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2014 18:41 GMT
#1816
On June 13 2014 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

ok so kingofthecats is like the only likely lynch at this point unless all the active players consolidate somewhere

we have an hour and change


SICK, what's the deal with KoC?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2014 18:41 GMT
#1817
still really really wanna kill kush and it confuses me why marv calls it a crap shoot when he's blatantly playing like shit
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
June 12 2014 18:42 GMT
#1818
On June 13 2014 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 13 2014 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

ok so kingofthecats is like the only likely lynch at this point unless all the active players consolidate somewhere

we have an hour and change


SICK, what's the deal with KoC?

Take a look into his filter and decide for yourself if there is a deal. Won't take you very long.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2014 18:42 GMT
#1819
On June 13 2014 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
still really really wanna kill kush and it confuses me why marv calls it a crap shoot when he's blatantly playing like shit


last time he did shit like this was yuma when he talked about view per minute graphs intermittently and fucked off and did nothing else
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 12 2014 18:44 GMT
#1820
On June 13 2014 03:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
On June 13 2014 03:40 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 13 2014 03:39 Holyflare wrote:
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

ok so kingofthecats is like the only likely lynch at this point unless all the active players consolidate somewhere

we have an hour and change


SICK, what's the deal with KoC?

Take a look into his filter and decide for yourself if there is a deal. Won't take you very long.


righto
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