TL 'Order' LXVI Mafia - Page 9

On June 21 2014 06:11 ritoky wrote:
w/e i honestly think you guys are being dicks about it

chrom is town, vote away

On June 21 2014 06:39 ExO_ wrote:


If you are miller, why didn't you claim at the start?

On June 21 2014 06:41 Rainbows wrote:
this also means chairman is probably mafia as well. why does ritoky pull this as mafia? protect buddy

On June 21 2014 06:43 ritoky wrote:


are you rescinding or godfather?

On June 21 2014 06:47 ExO_ wrote:
So let me get this straight. Ritoky claimed that Chrom is town, and bunnies is mafia. He can do this with his alignment check role.

However Chrom says he's miller, which means the alignment check would've come back mafia. So this most likely means ritoky is lying, and therefore mafia?

Chrom I'd like to know who you followed at night if you are miller.

On June 21 2014 06:36 Chromatically wrote:

This is a lie, I am miller(/tracker).

N2 - gumshoe, N3 - CR, no results.

##Vote: ritoky

On June 21 2014 06:48 Holyflare wrote:
trackers don't have n1 checks

On June 21 2014 06:47 ritoky wrote:


well, you wait until i post i have to go to counterclaim anything, which is shady.

rainbows comes in and seems to know what's about to happen before it does, also shady.

and you give no n1 check, also shady.

so i am asking, are you rescinding or godfather?

On June 21 2014 06:51 ritoky wrote:


yup, i am VT

On June 21 2014 06:52 ExO_ wrote:


What about the other nights?

On June 21 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:
anywayz, i expect to prob get lynched here for this. i made a play because 1) i have a strong scum read on 27nb (and when i flip VT you shouldn't discredit that) 2) i was getting more and more disinterested in this game and tried to spice it up for myslef
3) the mafia is killing off active people in the night and pushing inactives during the day so that game had gotten stale w/ 0 info in it.

On June 21 2014 19:24 Chairman Ray wrote:
Okay, I read through ritoky and 27nb's filter from Golden Sun.

Ritoky is not mafia. 27nb is.


If you want to read through the filter yourself, go ahead, if not, I'll give you the relevant key points.

In Golden Sun, Ritoky faked a claim against 27nb. He did it when 27nb wasn't around, and opened it off by discussing his claim with other people. In this game, Ritoky redclaimed against 27nb when 27nb wasn't on yet, and opened it off by discussing with Chrom.

In Golden Sun, Ritoky did not really put much consideration into the option that he might get counterclaimed. In this game, Ritoky got screwed over when Chrom turned out to be miller.

In Golden Sun, 27nb was not one of Ritoky's scumreads, but then he chose 27nb out of everyone to do the fakeclaim on. He didn't do the fakeclaim on someone he had as scum. In this game, 27nb was not one of Ritoky's scumreads, but then he just decided to fakeclaim on 27nb out of everyone.

Ritoky basically just did the exact same sequence for the claim. This is exactly what he does as town on the exact same person, for the third time. He approached it the exact same way, and the only difference really is that he got counterclaimed this time.

Does this mean that Ritoky is town? Not 100%, but it's likely, due to him performing his town strategy. He could also be faking it, but if that were the case, he would have probably said at some point that he's done this kind of thing before. He didn't say anything about doing this twice in previous games until I asked him specifically.

On June 21 2014 11:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, so i was being town read, and now im on the top of everyone's scum list.

And i see NO reasons as to why I am scum. Like no cases whatsoever.

Its obv mafia are trying to push a ml on me, which leads me inclined to believe i have a few mafia within my lynch list.

On June 22 2014 02:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:


At the time, yes i didnt have any votes, but an hour earlier I did. People just voted and blindly believed a claim before I could even defend myself. And if ritoky hadnt rescinded or messed up wr wouldnt be having this conversation, and id prob be defending my life.

Im trying to make it where I am not a question mark and where I will be read as town, because mislynches are terrible for town

On June 22 2014 03:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I believe that it is very possible that mafia jumped on the bw of me, me knowing that I am town.

The only thing that makes it harder for us is of ritoky does flip town, who out of the votes on both of us is mafia

See what im saying?