I checked sandroba's games in the database and he's never been this inactive as mafia (gone for ~4 days straight). I really doubt he's purposefully lurking as part of a mafia strategy, especially since he's on track to be replaced/modkilled. This would be a 100% policy lynch.

Matt/Fool has at least been here and posting, just only posting meh stuff (eg case on gumshoe with pretty misleading meta). I don't think this is purposeful inactivity either, but I like his lynch better than sandroba (inactive+not great posts as opposed to just an activity lynch).

Kush was an okay policy lynch before but now that he's actually playing I don't particularly want to lynch him today. He just looks like kush being kush to me, I don't think his posting has been scummy in and of itself (and I don't really expect anything from him, as opposed to Matt/Fool).

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United States1700 Posts

June 15 2014 18:10 GMT

#2949

If people want to do some last-minute wagons on people (Haru?) then let me know because I have to go soon.

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United States1700 Posts

June 15 2014 18:16 GMT

#2954

I really don't have a scumread on any of these people so that's what I think of them as policy lynches because they're looking like the wagons. I have to go right now so I'm leaving my vote on Haru in case Tica and/or Rainbows can pull something off. Can maybe check the thread briefly later.

##Vote: HaruRH

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United States1700 Posts

June 16 2014 17:25 GMT

#3577

I'm really sorry but my activity will be very limited for the next few days (through D3), family came over yesterday. I'll try to make the most efficient use of my time, though.

On June 17 2014 00:39 marvellosity wrote:
his posting looks reasonably natural and sufficiently diverse to me atm

after colouring in some random names on my spreadsheet, i'm kinda left with this sort of list:

ritoky/sandroba/mattisfoolish/Chairman Ray/strongandbig/ketomai/(holyflare)/(vayne)/(kush)/(ninjabunnies)

I like this list (+gumshoe) a lot. I'm still not sold on sandroba (I don't think his inactivity was alignment indicative), but since he says he's back now I am expecting good stuff. I might add sinani on there as well as he totally stopped posting, but marv said something about his meta a while ago so I can't speak to that.

My top three right now would be ritoky, CR, gumshoe. I don't have time to make cases (and I don't think I really need to anyway), but briefly: ritoky I've talked about a lot, he hasn't gotten any better. Look at how his vote was uselessly on me all day (he's not interested in the lynch) and how he didn't give opinions on any of the actual lynch targets. The fact that he hasn't caught on yet I think is convincing as well because I would expect him to be an easy mislynch for scum to push if he were town. CR totally stopped posting and his D2 vote makes no sense at all, it shows that he doesn't care about the lynch enough to even vote his top scumread (?). gumshoe hasn't pushed anything and his posts don't seem like he's trying to solve the game (I like HF's case).

I also agree with the sentiment that scum is probably inactive, because it looks like scum has had no influence on the last two lynches.

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United States1700 Posts

June 16 2014 17:26 GMT

#3578

kush vig shot please, I don't want to have to lynch him

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United States1700 Posts

June 17 2014 05:11 GMT

#3806

OWS' righteous rage against Matt/Fool is kind of making me want to lynch them too. I forget why I didn't really want to lynch him yesterday, he's done almost nothing and the reads he has given are pretty generic.

The problem with an inactive scumteam is that it's hard to get a good case against any of them other than just "he hasn't done anything", which is hard to get that much conviction behind. Maybe that's why I'm so stuck on ritoky, because I feel like there's a case other than just "hasn't done anything".

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United States1700 Posts

June 17 2014 05:17 GMT

#3808

On June 17 2014 14:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

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you are a very good player.

Not entirely sure what this is saying but I'll take the compliment. I don't have a problem with you anymore, in case that wasn't obvious.

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United States1700 Posts

June 17 2014 05:36 GMT

#3810

I'll sheep onto gumshoe. Honestly I think if we lynch into that list of lurkers we'll probably hit scum.

HF, I'm not sure if this is what you're saying but I don't think Matt/Fool and gumshoe are mutually exclusive in a team at all.

##Vote: gumshoe

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United States1700 Posts

June 18 2014 05:15 GMT

#4053

On June 17 2014 14:56 Holyflare wrote:

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what does this meaaaan?

On June 17 2014 15:10 roundabound wrote:
He's saying that it's making him want to lynch MIF not obiwan. You guys can't read for shit.

Unless I'm wrong and I can't read for shit

Yes, this.

Although, I feel like a sandroba lynch is the "correct" play over a MF lynch if sandroba doesn't do anything today. I still think that MF's inactivity is more likely to be purposeful, and his posting is really lackluster, but sandroba has done literally nothing and it's D3, which is pretty unacceptable. If we get nothing from sandroba today, I don't think that we ever will, but I think MF has a better chance of coming up with something.

Frankly, we're probably going to have to lynch both of them, so I don't think the order is even a big deal. Not opposed to either lynch.

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United States1700 Posts

June 18 2014 05:18 GMT

#4055

gumshoe is looking like a modkill, so that's probably not going to be an issue.

##Unvote
##Vote: sandroba

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United States1700 Posts

June 18 2014 05:20 GMT

#4056

I'm really sorry again that I can only drop a few posts before leaving, but it's really late for me and I this is my only opportunity for this right now. Leave questions for me if you have them and I can probably get them tomorrow morning. I'll make sure to step it up when I can.

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United States1700 Posts

June 18 2014 18:07 GMT

#4188

On June 18 2014 14:26 batsnacks wrote:

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Why sandroba and not mattisfoolish?

I think sandroba's promising contribution and then not delivering is worse than MF's limited contribution. Assuming he votes so that he doesn't get modkilled: sandroba gets back from his absence, says specifically that he'll look at the D1 votes and put something up, but then doesn't do anything until just before deadline?

But since he hasn't posted anything since then, he probably is a modkill, so I'm down with a MF lynch.

##Unvote
##Vote: mattisfoolish

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United States1700 Posts

June 18 2014 18:22 GMT

#4199

Yes it would be? Ideally he wouldn't have let it get to that point as town.

If he is town, in theory he should do townie stuff all of N3 so that we don't want to lynch him D4. But that is a reasonable point against lynching him today if he shows up.

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United States1700 Posts

June 18 2014 18:23 GMT

#4200

Actually the problem with the idea of leaving him alive if he does something now is that it just repeats, so that the next day we're facing the same problem of whether to kill him or not.

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United States1700 Posts

June 18 2014 18:29 GMT

#4203

On June 19 2014 03:24 justanothertownie wrote:

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What?

I was thinking that it would make sense not to lynch him if he shows up now, because it would give him an opportunity to do stuff during N3. But that doesn't actually make sense because he already had an opportunity to do stuff today, so we'd just be facing the same problem.