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ritoky
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well, you wait until i post i have to go to counterclaim anything, which is shady. rainbows comes in and seems to know what's about to happen before it does, also shady. and you give no n1 check, also shady. so i am asking, are you rescinding or godfather? | ||
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ritoky
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yup, i am VT | ||
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ritoky
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3) the mafia is killing off active people in the night and pushing inactives during the day so that game had gotten stale w/ 0 info in it. | ||
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ritoky
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On June 21 2014 06:55 Rainbows wrote: if ritoky is town i am done with tl mafia forever. prepare to never play mafia again. | ||
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ritoky
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anywayz, have fun lynching VT; hope you can look back on this and gain some info. | ||
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ritoky
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chrom (GF), rainbows, 27nb cuz then it was just lack of confidence in my reads at that point. | ||
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ritoky
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as opposed to sitting through 50 total post day phases where the only thing said is "lynch lurkers!" now mind you i wasn't really helping that the last day phase. but i play mafia for fun, and this game had reached a 0 fun level for me. like i said, it ended up being a bad play, and i expect to be lynched for it, but at least the game is more fun and alive again. | ||
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ritoky
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On June 21 2014 07:11 roundabound wrote: If Chrome is GF, he accepts the green check and lives off of it for as long as possible. Why the fuck would he want to claim miller? That's like the dumbest play of all time. because if they lynch 2 townies in a row they win. he can get a ML on me, then its basically LYLO or MYLO the rest of the way. as opposed to letting her go and then you have to do a lot more. but yeah its probably the simpler world and he is what he claims. | ||
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On June 21 2014 07:12 VayneAuthority wrote: ive seen this kind of stuff on epicmafia before when i played there like 6 years ago or w/e most likely mafia, just going straight to AtE enjoy being wrong. | ||
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On June 21 2014 07:18 roundabound wrote: At least he didn't give the checks right away so that he got a reaction test out of Chrome...amirite? what are you talking about? chrom is like 90% the miller. read the interaction. i asked him "how would you feel if i told you i had a green check on you?" and his response is basically being flabbergasted. because that makes 0 sense to him. would say that's a pretty decent reaction test in regards to his claim. but hey, it was a bad play. move on and lynch you some more VT. | ||
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ritoky
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On June 21 2014 07:22 TicaTica wrote: Do you realize if both of them are town, if he is mafia and she is scum, if he is miller and she is anything OR if both are mafia and he is not GF this play fails horrendously? Like if you're town, this is your fault. It's quite possibly the worst town "big play" I've seen and that's on top of Moc fake claiming doctor to get the real doctor lynched and worse than FirmTofu fake claiming naive cop to clear himself as town while throwing dirt and questioning a real cop (kinda) with a real red check (kinda) on scum. you're voting on me, and this post seems to imply that you know i am VT. why do you know that? it's not as bad as you say it is; although it is bad a not really thought through. like i said, made the claim cuz the game was stale, dead, i wasn't having fun, had a strong read, and YOLO. get over it and try to figure out the game instead of complaining. | ||
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ritoky
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On June 21 2014 07:27 marvellosity wrote: The game wasn't dead at all. That said there's little point in berating you anymore gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. i think when i flip VT you might really want to look into 27nb and rainbows. rainbows seemed to know all to well what was about to happen before it did. | ||
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ritoky
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On June 21 2014 07:50 TicaTica wrote: No. You die. You made a god awful play regardless of alignment. That's what I'm pointing out. In any of the above situations your play is hugely detrimental to town and will likely end in you being lynched for sure instead of you being possibly lynched. Regardless of your alignment that's fucking terrible. I think you might actually be a dumbass and fake claiming. I'm so not going to bother trying to figure out your alignment. There's no point. If you're willing to do shit like this as town because #YOLO, #bored or #deadgame then you are not a player I want at endgame. You will lose the game for us. So if you're town, I'd rather excise the cancerous lesion than allow it to fester and make things even worse. The upside is that there's still a good chance of you being a dumbass scum trying to make a play when none in necessary. i am not the sensitive type, i have thick enough skin to not mind. but if you're actually town, you might want to tone down your rhetoric. you're going to get warned/removed from the game for calling someone cancer. if you're mafia, please continue. | ||
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ritoky
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On June 21 2014 10:02 27ninjabunnies wrote: Hahaha, I'm laughing so hard right now. He claimed a green on his top scum lynch, and a red on me, who wasn't even MENTIONED in his reads?! Look in spoiler below. + Show Spoiler + On June 17 2014 04:48 ritoky wrote: Well I promised reads, then I fell asleep. So here they are, as much as I can fit in before I have to go: Top town circle: Koshi, JAT, Marv Other town peoples: ExO_, TicaTica, roundabound The tri-fecta or weird feelings: Holyflare, Tehpoofter, VayneAuthority - These three (Holyflare the least of the 3) are fence leaning scum for me based on a couple of things; the first being a very odd interaction in the game. Holyflare begins to make a list of mostly unproductive/inactive people that he wants to lynch, which isn't out of character for him. Although in cell mafia he was yelling at inactives and criticizing people a lot more for lack of reading comprehension, so there's something to be said for that. Anyways, Holyflare posts this: To which I point out, if he is making that list then why did he omit VayneAuthority: And to be fair, I could very easily believe that which is why I feel this interaction is the least weird for Holy, although he is far less critical than the last time when he was town in cell. However now we get to the strange part. VA comes back to the thread because there is a slight bit of discussion about him and posts this: Then doesn't address a single thing and just leaves again, which gave me very strange feelings about him; but it was really set off when this happened. This read is bullshit to me. 1st, I don't see where the hell VA tried at all today; and I also don't see the level of caring. This is a forced read with very little justification to me. And I had a meta read on you yesterday as being "wolfy"; and this read just made me begin to trust that read a little more. I wouldn't be surprised if banks and VA are wolves together in the slightest. No bueno people - Chairman Ray - His votes don't line up with his play. He said he had a case on roundabound and Haru, yet he didn't really push those cases at all. He doesn't really seem to be hunting scum, and I read a lot of his posts as very passive. - Sinani - Was active, then got criticized for his play and got called scum and as a result has responded with shallow posts and inactivity. Makes me believe he is trying to hide. At one point I forgot he was even in the game. - Ketomai - I read a lot of his posts as summarizing, recaping, and saying a lot of non-committal information. Seems be going out of his way to remain Switzerland-like. Kill him with fire: Chromatically - Tried that push to save his scum buddy, all of the stuff I listed earlier; he hasn't really done anything to redeem himself in my eyes at all. He shoulda died so long ago it's not even funny. This is all I can do for now, as I have to go to work. I wanted to give reasons for town reads, but alas no time. If I am alive after the flip I will. Scum alert 101. Even if he rescended, and is VT this is a super bad play. Like wtf. Plus, I've been scum reading him since I've gotten into this game, and he claims a red on me?! He's never even mentioned in his filter at all that I was a scum read. And the fact he does this when CR is about to get lynched, makes me wonder if he is doing it to get off of a mafia member, more likely a pr. Ritoky, if you are town, that was the stupidest play ever. If you are mafia, well then gg, you just outed yourself. ##Vote: Ritoky yup you're 100% mafia, should stuck through the fake claim just to get you lynched. | ||
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ritoky
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i don't believe any of the stuff in your post really points to any reason why i am mafia though. bad play doesn't equal mafia. anywayz, like i said; when i flip VT, 27nb is like 100% mafia here. | ||
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ritoky
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step 1) let's read mafia thread step 2) nothing really interesting is going on here...it's the same people pushing the same exact reads on the same lurkers; and they refuse to doubt eachother step 3) i am bored, maybe i should liven this game up step 4) well i am pretty sure bunnies is mafia, maybe i should fake claim a red on her step 5) hey look chrom is here, maybe i should use my going hard on him as an excuse to keep a green check alive step 6) come out as cop too hard before getting reactions step 7) cascade into flames step 8) rescind claim step 9) probably get lynched for bad play | ||
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On June 21 2014 10:42 TicaTica wrote: Ok let's say I want to believe you. What was your purpose in this gambit and where were you planning to go with it originally and as things developed as it was playing out? Well the play was less so about green checking chrom, he was honestly just an excuse (it just turns out that part exploded); it was mostly about faking a red check on 27nb who had ascended to my top scum read pretty recently. So mainly it was a play to get a solid reaction out of her for the fake red check tbh. If she reacted well, I probably would have rescinded the claim. If she reacted poorly I am not sure if I would have rescinded the claim until the night phase. Hadn't really thought that far ahead. Just so happened that everyone was a giant dick about me outing everything immediately, and the fact that I mixed up the order of how I should have done things (newb mistake), that I couldn't get the response I wanted. That said, she ended up giving a terrible response anywayz, and I am regretting rescinding. I shoulda just stuck it out to get her lynched. | ||
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On June 21 2014 10:44 Chairman Ray wrote: I was just going to ask about this. Thanks for posting it ahead to time. Question, what did you mean in step 5? Also, if you decided to fake claim a red on 27nb before you went in, why didn't you wait for 27nb to be on? From how you came out, it sounds a lot more like you decided redcheck 27nb after coming out as cop. 27nb posted like an hour or 2 before I made the claim the she was around and babysitting (might have had times wrong) so I thought she was here. Re step 5: people were going to push for checks either before or after the reaction, it is not uncommon (at least where I come from) to half-heartedly tunnel on your n1 green check as a cop. plus chrom was in the thread so he could give response to the situation. | ||
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On June 21 2014 11:00 TicaTica wrote: So if you wanted to get bunnies' reaction, why would you start by asking Chrome about her? AdditionLly, why would you dick around with who you're red checking? What sort of alignment indicative responses were you hoping to get? You said you thought she was 'around' but babysitting right? Why not wait for when she posts or just red check her and wait until she gets here. All I see at this point is you trying to cover up getting caught red handed with more bullshit that doesn't add up whatsoever. Well I was confident in my read, but not confident enough to not rescind it if it didn't feel right when she posted, plus I would rather get it out there earlier so that people can actually talk about it and get information from the interaction; so waiting around for even later in the phase probably isn't good. And you're right, if I thought it through more and wanted it to be more effective I probably should have just asked chrom what his read on bunnies was or waited for bunnies to log on and ask her read on chrom. I didn't though, and I will live with that. | ||
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