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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 20:19 GMT
#1256
On June 12 2014 05:18 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.

I am going to go with everybody else.


Lol

This beautiful example of a post by koshi is the very reason why people do one liner replies such as 'lol'.

I seriously dislike this 'everyone is an idiot' attitude from koshi. Do something more productive other than smearing shit all over the thread like marv is.

Yes. I was looking for the "lol" reply with that post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 20:21 GMT
#1258
On June 12 2014 05:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:18 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.

I am going to go with everybody else.

remember oats on like d4 in ## and i was absolutely convinced he was mafia

but eventually i had to let it go because everyone didn't seem to go for it no matter how hard i pushed it

search in your heart

No. Chrom can still easily be scum. People are just not seeing that I do not want him instantly killed. I just say that he should be watched.

This entire wagon on me is wrong btw. And the one on batsnacks probably as well.

I don't think I'm interested in pursuing either of you today. Can we be carebear scumhunting buddies now?

meh, I can abandon ship on the tryhard stuff. It simply isn't working out.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 20:40 GMT
#1269
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 20:42 GMT
#1273
On June 12 2014 05:37 sinani206 wrote:
Caught up again, and keto hasn't posted since my filter analysis, so I'll talk a little about Koshi and why I'm going to vote for him.

First of all, in general I don't really like process of elimination as a means to "solving the game." Especially on day 1. The amount of null reads you are going to have is kind of going to screw with that. Additionally, process of elimination seems like it could be a method for scum to use because it would take a lot of effort for town to do effectively while taking much less for a mafia member because they know people's alignment.

He says he wants to try a new playstyle, which alone I certainly have no problem with, but the one he chose seems to not help town very much. How is not responding to questions asked of you and refusal to participate in discussion pro-town?

I don't like his analysis of Chromatically. The "way he entered the thread" was fine to me and as I said before I'm leaning town on him. And I'm kind of confused as to what his point is with that section of his post. He calls us scrubs for thinking Chromatically isn't scum and then says that he doesn't think he is scum either in the tl;dr.

And the MZ case seems forced. The whole "he needs to be watched" thing to voting him seems like a chain missing a few links.

Then he says he's going to be friendly, posts a few one liners, and then complains that people are hating on him for being "tryhard" when he has put about two posts with anything that resembles effort into this game. It seems like he's pretending he's tryhard by saying it a lot.

Try harder.

##Vote: Koshi

So why am I scum exactly?
Give me the bullet points.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 20:50 GMT
#1282
On June 12 2014 05:45 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:42 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:37 sinani206 wrote:
Caught up again, and keto hasn't posted since my filter analysis, so I'll talk a little about Koshi and why I'm going to vote for him.

First of all, in general I don't really like process of elimination as a means to "solving the game." Especially on day 1. The amount of null reads you are going to have is kind of going to screw with that. Additionally, process of elimination seems like it could be a method for scum to use because it would take a lot of effort for town to do effectively while taking much less for a mafia member because they know people's alignment.

He says he wants to try a new playstyle, which alone I certainly have no problem with, but the one he chose seems to not help town very much. How is not responding to questions asked of you and refusal to participate in discussion pro-town?

I don't like his analysis of Chromatically. The "way he entered the thread" was fine to me and as I said before I'm leaning town on him. And I'm kind of confused as to what his point is with that section of his post. He calls us scrubs for thinking Chromatically isn't scum and then says that he doesn't think he is scum either in the tl;dr.

And the MZ case seems forced. The whole "he needs to be watched" thing to voting him seems like a chain missing a few links.

Then he says he's going to be friendly, posts a few one liners, and then complains that people are hating on him for being "tryhard" when he has put about two posts with anything that resembles effort into this game. It seems like he's pretending he's tryhard by saying it a lot.

Try harder.

##Vote: Koshi

So why am I scum exactly?
Give me the bullet points.


[*]All of your analyses seemed forced
[*]The plays you have made so far are much easier for scum to make than town
[*]Refusing to participate in discussion
[*]Lack of defense
[*]Making sure everyone knows how invested you are in the game

- It's not forced at all. There is actual logic behind all my reads. If you mean I am reaching a bit with my cases... Hmm maybe. a tiny bit as Chrom pointed out.
- The easiest way to play as scum is staying out the spotlight and make sure you don't get lynched. I wouldn't say I am doing that.
- Will change from now on.
- Disagree. I can't defend myself against cases that base themselves on me being desperate grasping for reads. The reads I made are reads I believe in and I made them as town. Simple.
- Hmm. How invested is that? I am not saying I am super invested or something. Tryhard for me = going solely for reads = ignore banter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 21:17 GMT
#1310
On June 12 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.

I am going to go with everybody else.


I don't feel like this is something village koshi reasons out. He usually is one to just try to sheep/read off others bringing in his own evidence but not ignore everyone else.

Really poofter? Really?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 21:37 GMT
#1321
On June 12 2014 06:21 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


He got 4 votes... there is 30 people. I mean if it was 10 votes in 5 minutes thats one thing but 4 votes I hardly think is pause for concern.

Give me the bullet points to why you think I am scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 22:03 GMT
#1351
On June 12 2014 06:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 06:17 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.

I am going to go with everybody else.


I don't feel like this is something village koshi reasons out. He usually is one to just try to sheep/read off others bringing in his own evidence but not ignore everyone else.

Really poofter? Really?


I just think that you are a smart/good enough player to realize you might just be very off. Especially if a lot of people are not reading the same especially when you have a scum read in a game so large on one of the more active players.

I may have read it last night and forgotten but what was the reason you're voting MZ?

How can you not see the obvious joke......
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 22:12 GMT
#1358
On June 12 2014 07:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 07:03 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:17 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:06 Koshi wrote:
Either I am really wrong or everybody else is really wrong.

I am going to go with everybody else.


I don't feel like this is something village koshi reasons out. He usually is one to just try to sheep/read off others bringing in his own evidence but not ignore everyone else.

Really poofter? Really?


I just think that you are a smart/good enough player to realize you might just be very off. Especially if a lot of people are not reading the same especially when you have a scum read in a game so large on one of the more active players.

I may have read it last night and forgotten but what was the reason you're voting MZ?

How can you not see the obvious joke......


Guess I wasn't in a joking mood.

Koshi about Ketomai why should we not lynch him?

Not the biggest fan. random lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 22:13 GMT
#1359
On June 12 2014 07:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Man no reaction hijole

##Unvote

Say something related to the game Alakaslam. lampshading stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 22:38 GMT
#1387
I think ritoky is using the term TMI wrong.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 22:40 GMT
#1390
On June 12 2014 07:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 07:35 ritoky wrote:
On June 12 2014 07:33 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 07:32 ritoky wrote:
On June 12 2014 07:28 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 07:27 ritoky wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:50 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:48 ritoky wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:43 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:17 Koshi wrote:
[quote]
Really poofter? Really?


I just think that you are a smart/good enough player to realize you might just be very off. Especially if a lot of people are not reading the same especially when you have a scum read in a game so large on one of the more active players.

I may have read it last night and forgotten but what was the reason you're voting MZ?


Idk, I am reading the thread fairly similarly to koshi. Maybe not so much on who he thought was town in his earlier posts, but his top 2 scum reads are MZ and chrom, and I agree with both; chrom for similar reasons, MZ for somewhat meta reasons.

The response of the read by chrom is just off. He gets wayyyyyy too strong of a scum read off of nearly nothing from sinani, it just doesn't sit well at all.

And in regards to MZ, all he said in response to my freedom post (which was specifically directed at him) was "good to see ritokys town". I expected at least a murrica joke or picture in response. But moreso he just oozed town last game and I don't get those same vibes from him. Plus his posting style is much different, much more restrained. Just feels off.

could you answer my previous question to you pls?


sorry, must have missed it. TMI = too much information?

as in chrom has more information than me, as in he knows whos mafia and whos town, as in he's mafia.

is that the explanation you were looking for?

but if it reeks of TMI, the only logical explanation is that Koshi is mafia. otherwise it doesn't make sense. what else am I missing?


? that post was about sinani, JAT, and chrom? I was talking about how I felt Chrom baited out sinani into giving a crap read on JAT because JAT hadn't really posted in the thread much; then he disproportionately reacted to the read given by sinani and claimed a STRONG scum read from it. How any1 gets a strong read at all from sinani's early filter is beyond me. So I think he is working with some excess info.

yes i got the wrong name.

what extra information do you think he is working with then? that's what i'm getting at. what extra info does he have that leads him to question it more forecefully than you think is warranted


Your logic here is circular. I just said chrom was mafia about 30 seconds ago. I think he either knew sinani was town and was trying to get in easy points or he knew sinani was mafia and was trying to bus early, either way the scope of chrom's reaction is bs and he is probably scum.

And question it is being generous. He didn't really question it, he just claimed massive scum read.

that's just random baseless speculation though. you can't say something reeks of TMI and then not even have an opinion on what the information is, that's ridiculous.

it's quite a leap to go from "this reaction is over the top" to "this reeks of TMI"

The first one is a really good argument though. Some really smart guy said it already.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 11 2014 22:52 GMT
#1395
Meapak_Ziphh
Why is ObiWan town?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 07:58 GMT
#1541
I think JaT is also somebody we should watch.

##vote JaT
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 08:59 GMT
#1547
On June 12 2014 17:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 16:58 Koshi wrote:
I think JaT is also somebody we should watch.

##vote JaT

I'm going to bed and can't be bothered to go read your filter but if this is the first time you've called out JAT it means you've abandoned like 2 or 3 other pushes.

But regardless of how stupid Koshi is, the one thing I hate in this game (aside from people who contribute without contributing) are martyrs so let's kill VA because he's scum who's gonna try and pull the "too scummy to be scum" line when the heat really gets on him. We have someone blatantly not playing the game, that's hurting us as town and VA has played mafia long enough to know it. I've seen him put in real work as town so that everything concludes that he is currently scum. Sometimes if it looks like a scum and it talks like a scum then it actually is a scum and not just a retarded townie going full jubjub,

##Vote: VayneAuthority

You and me are done.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 09:04 GMT
#1549
In which game did BH modkill himself and his 2 masonbuddies?
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 09:18 GMT
#1552
On June 12 2014 18:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 18:04 Koshi wrote:
In which game did BH modkill himself and his 2 masonbuddies?

The aborted pm game.

I don't like MZs push on VA. Easy to do and Vayne is known to not give a fuck as town. In my experience he isn't as blatant as scum.

What was the name? You remember?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 09:46 GMT
#1554
justanothertownie
Why is ObiWan or CR scum?

I ask this because I think you are scum.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 09:58 GMT
#1556
marv, JAT is scum. I feel it in my bones. You should look into it.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 10:05 GMT
#1558
On June 12 2014 19:02 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 18:58 Koshi wrote:
marv, JAT is scum. I feel it in my bones. You should look into it.

you need to tell me why though. because i'm leaning town on my broski.

I don't know yet.
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