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On June 16 2014 06:58 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:29 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 16 2014 05:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:Helloooooo Boys  I'm completely caught up with the game, so if you have any questions at all for me on certain people or cases, ask away. I know Errandor didn't contribute jack shit, but I'm hoping I can bring some thoughts and such and lynch some mafia! So, a few thoughts/ things I've noticed. @Batsnacks- Your read is absolutely stupid. Just because someone's posting is thought out and thorough does not make them mafia. Sure I was mafia in Cell, but I play well, regardless of alignment. So your initial read on CR is stupid! Nt saying that CR isn't mafia, but your day 1 push on him for that was completely weird. Also you were really strong day 1 in activity, and day 2 you did absolutely nothing for me. No pushing cases, no reads, basically afkd through the lynch, and show up now. Top scum read. @Roundabound- Robik is town. Mocsta is mafia. Sorry, Rob, but mocsta's scuminess outweighs your towniness. Lynch/shoot them as well. I can elaborate on any of the reads I give at the bottom if need be. Town Marv- though he totally lacked in his play day 2. ExO Koshi- though him and marv were starting to annoy me with the whole "everyone is bad and wrong" thing. Not alignment indicative, but you guys need to find something else to go on. JAT Mafia Round Bat Maybe yomata Kush should be shot with a gun or something. Yeesh people. Null/ Fenced Poofter- was mafia with him last game. Day 1 trollyness-check. Lack of playing day 2- check. Still I like his reads. Rainbows Tica MIF- bleh. Everyone else i haven't mentioned. Tell me more on Round also Jat and Rainbows especially post flip here. Yeah I'm looking at JAT now, especially post flip. Every vote MArv has been on, so has JAT. Every vote but 1 has been after Marv voted. JAT voted before Marv on only the Sand vote. JAT on day one just seemed to be figuring out the game. I liked his initial questioning of Round. The only thing I dont like is basically he is just a bunch of one liners. I dont see big reads or cases. For Round- Like I said, Rob part is reading townie to me, Mocsta part is reading scummy. Mocsta outweighs rob's townieness. But day 1 Rob was townie, asking questions, completely disagreeing with the half of his hydra. Seems a little ballsy for them to be mafia from Rob's pov. Mocsta-however, idk. His reads don't sit with me. Also, i found it weird he was willing to go with any wagon being haru and yamato) over a read on keto that he had been pushing quite a bit. Rainbows- Idk. I was iffy about the whole Haru/Rainbows thing, as I was reading haru pretty townie, and rainbows not so townie. I played detention mafia with him, and though he wasn't super like detention mafia, it seemed he was playing slightly similar. Rainbows- never played with i don't think. Not sure how to read, so null. What role was rainbows in detention? or is it ongoing or something? I'm looking at other stuff.
Sorry, Haru was in detention, and he was town. Not ongoing.
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On June 16 2014 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 07:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:56 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:52 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote:
tbf if mafia roleblock someone who died, a mafia claiming the rb makes plenty of sense in general terms. You're talking about Holyflare right? yes. i'm not actually offering an opinion on whether it is the case or not, because hf may have been legit roleblocked but if i roleblocked someone as mafia and they wound up dead, i'd claim it or tell a team-mate to claim it Is there possibility of jailer roleblocking him? Kinda stupid imo- but just putting it out there. (Jailer should have been on the vigi claim.. Poor MZ) Why? So he can't shoot? Bad idea. I was thinking more of saving MZ rather than not allowing him to shoot.Also, like I said. it was stupid idea-about hf being jailed, but was putting it out there. There is no saving him without also rbing him though. Saves should have been on marv. No way a jailkeeper is on HF.
Like I said, I could be wrong. IDc. Just a thing that popped in my head. Idk why HF couldn't be possible jailer target?
I just like HF this game.
Also, can someone tell me, did MZ ever claim who he was going to shoot?
He could have been possibly claiming on a town, and mafia didnt rb for that reason.
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On June 16 2014 07:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I Found a broadcast in spanish... which I don't speak....
Really?
Could have fooled me in video mafia.
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On June 16 2014 07:34 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 07:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 07:01 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:56 justanothertownie wrote:On June 16 2014 06:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 06:52 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 06:50 batsnacks wrote:On June 16 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote:
tbf if mafia roleblock someone who died, a mafia claiming the rb makes plenty of sense in general terms. You're talking about Holyflare right? yes. i'm not actually offering an opinion on whether it is the case or not, because hf may have been legit roleblocked but if i roleblocked someone as mafia and they wound up dead, i'd claim it or tell a team-mate to claim it Is there possibility of jailer roleblocking him? Kinda stupid imo- but just putting it out there. (Jailer should have been on the vigi claim.. Poor MZ) Why? So he can't shoot? Bad idea. I was thinking more of saving MZ rather than not allowing him to shoot.Also, like I said. it was stupid idea-about hf being jailed, but was putting it out there. There is no saving him without also rbing him though. Saves should have been on marv. No way a jailkeeper is on HF. Like I said, I could be wrong. IDc. Just a thing that popped in my head. Idk why HF couldn't be possible jailer target? I just like HF this game. Also, can someone tell me, did MZ ever claim who he was going to shoot? He could have been possibly claiming on a town, and mafia didnt rb for that reason. He said he was going to shoot Kush. That's what this is all about.
OH.
I'd have shot kush, too.
Kay, ignore me.
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On June 16 2014 07:43 Koshi wrote:
or maybe just VA. Nobody will expect that. Anyway. I will keep eye open to good suggestions.
Kush/VA/Keto prob be good too.
Wouldnt mind a shot on yamato either.
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On June 16 2014 07:47 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 07:45 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 07:43 Koshi wrote:
or maybe just VA. Nobody will expect that. Anyway. I will keep eye open to good suggestions. Kush/VA/Keto prob be good too. Wouldnt mind a shot on yamato either. You are either the best replacement ever or mafia.
Awww why thank you Best thing I read all game.
I think you can tell which way I'm leaning.
+ Show Spoiler +Duh! Best replacement ever!
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On June 16 2014 08:00 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 07:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 07:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I Found a broadcast in spanish... which I don't speak.... Really? Could have fooled me in video mafia. Yo hablo espanol. @Koshi I think VA is village based on yesterday he seemed to actually try. Thought baout maybe gum? I was so amazed in the YOSO game he didn't get shot
With gumshoe not voting, should we waste a shot when he could get modkilled?
Tho Im down for gumshoe dying regardless of shots/lynches/modkills.
Je parle francais!
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@Poof
So many compliments today. Please gentlemen, more!
Also, what does fwiw mean?
Yeah CRs vote on Erran/me super random, especially since it looked like Erran was getting modkilled/replaced anyway.
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On June 16 2014 08:06 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 08:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 08:00 Tehpoofter wrote:On June 16 2014 07:15 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 07:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
I Found a broadcast in spanish... which I don't speak.... Really? Could have fooled me in video mafia. Yo hablo espanol. @Koshi I think VA is village based on yesterday he seemed to actually try. Thought baout maybe gum? I was so amazed in the YOSO game he didn't get shot With gumshoe not voting, should we waste a shot when he could get modkilled? Tho Im down for gumshoe dying regardless of shots/lynches/modkills. Je parle francais! YOSO mafia I don't know how many village/wolves said this and it never happened he did just barely enough. His day 1 was good but not since then. AT the earliest it would be EOD 3 I imagine.
And his alignment in YOSO was mafia?
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So anyone else around to chat?
Got an hour til my other game starts.
+ Show Spoiler +Multitasking at its finest!
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Hello there Banks. Who won?
Also,
Slam is still town, don't shoot him.
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On June 16 2014 09:25 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 09:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Hello there Banks. Who won?
Also,
Slam is still town, don't shoot him. what's the basis for this read?
Gut read. And I've played I think 2 games with Slam so far?
He's been town, and it seems in this game he's town as well. Plus his responses to me haven't been off.
Something wrong with my read?
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On June 16 2014 09:28 kushm4sta wrote:
so you idiots are going to lynch me? fine i will go back tonot giving a fuck
So town. Much wow.
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On June 16 2014 09:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 09:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 09:25 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 09:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Hello there Banks. Who won?
Also,
Slam is still town, don't shoot him. what's the basis for this read? Gut read. And I've played I think 2 games with Slam so far? He's been town, and it seems in this game he's town as well. Plus his responses to me haven't been off. Something wrong with my read? just seems pretty flimsy to be so confidently asserting he's town.
If it was flimsy, I wouldn't be confident.
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On June 16 2014 09:39 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 05:25 27ninjabunnies wrote:Helloooooo Boys I'm completely caught up with the game, so if you have any questions at all for me on certain people or cases, ask away. I know Errandor didn't contribute jack shit, but I'm hoping I can bring some thoughts and such and lynch some mafia! So, a few thoughts/ things I've noticed. @Roundabound- Robik is town. Mocsta is mafia. Sorry, Rob, but mocsta's scuminess outweighs your towniness. Lynch/shoot them as well. Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 06:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:B]
For Round- Like I said, Rob part is reading townie to me, Mocsta part is reading scummy. Mocsta outweighs rob's townieness.
But day 1 Rob was townie, asking questions, completely disagreeing with the half of his hydra. Seems a little ballsy for them to be mafia from Rob's pov. Mocsta-however, idk. His reads don't sit with me. Also, i found it weird he was willing to go with any wagon being haru and yamato) over a read on keto that he had been pushing quite a bit.
Rainbows- Idk. I was iffy about the whole Haru/Rainbows thing, as I was reading haru pretty townie, and rainbows not so townie. I played detention mafia with him, and though he wasn't super like detention mafia, it seemed he was playing slightly similar. Rainbows- never played with i don't think. Not sure how to read, so null. One - Thanks for beign an active follower. Its pretty clear you have a good idea of the thread. This is a refreshing change. Based on impetus alone, I am willing to give you a town lean; or at the least, benefit of the doubt. Regarding myself. I find your reads in general completely tunneled and association-based towards interactions with an unflipped me. This is poor play in general. Many times in your filter you have said "XYZ" is town or scum, because of how they talked to me. A rethink is needed I think; and if you believe those players are genuinely mafia, you should be able to delve into mindset quite easily. Further, your synopsis is wrong. Robik and I have barely had any joint conversation before ewntering the thread. Hes been away when im here; and vice versa. In addition, I continually pushed the keto read all cycle. Your summary is far fetched. I only changed votes towards the very end when consolidation was critical. This is well document in my filter; yet, somehow you miss this??? Confirmation bias???? Regarding rainbows; he is town. On par with Marv this game. No offence, but given you are one of the few players to state you preferred Haru over Rainbows; and I know you are wrong on me. I can not take your stance on Rainbows seriously. He is town for approach, mindset & conviction. ~moc
Kay, I'll go ahead and address a few things.
1. Im not sure if I ever based a read on how they interacted with you? Maybe I did, but do not remember this off the top of my head. Also, my read on you is based, as stated above, the wagon between haru and yamato and not really pushing your read on keto. IT seemed to me as if you were just willing to go with any lynch- which is more of a mafia thing to do.
I didn't read every single post in your filter, just skimmed, but if you did have sme consolidation, point it out to me, because I did miss it.
Also, my Rainbows stance is null-fenced. You can't take this seriously?
And because I'm wrng on you, it means I'm wrong on everyone else?
Anyone else see something wrong with these statements?
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On June 16 2014 09:43 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 09:40 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 09:37 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 09:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 16 2014 09:25 marvellosity wrote:On June 16 2014 09:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Hello there Banks. Who won?
Also,
Slam is still town, don't shoot him. what's the basis for this read? Gut read. And I've played I think 2 games with Slam so far? He's been town, and it seems in this game he's town as well. Plus his responses to me haven't been off. Something wrong with my read? just seems pretty flimsy to be so confidently asserting he's town. If it was flimsy, I wouldn't be confident. I'm shocked to think you have a Slam dunk read on him.
I prob laughed a bit harder than necessary on that..
Also, gut read. Like I said, him in this game seems much like the town games I played with him.
I don't think it was flimsy at all, marv, but I have a little biasy towards my own reads.
But if koshi wants to shoot him, who am I to stop him?
I'm just giving the read I think.
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On June 16 2014 09:50 marvellosity wrote:
i have gut reads all the time, but it usually leads me to present those reads as "i think x may be town" or "i don't really think y is scum" rather than "this guy is town"
I'm just a bit more assured in my read, I suppose?
Idk. I think whether or nt I said "Slam is more likely town" than "Slam is town" makes no difference.
I think he is town. Gave reasons why.
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On June 16 2014 10:00 roundabound wrote:
27bunnies:
I stayed onto Keto for a majority of the cycle. I don't see what is scummy about jumping off a 1 vote wagon; to consolidate with alt. reads?
Regarding the rest; you are taking it out of context. But hey, no cb right?
~moc
Hmm, guess I'll have to do a bit of filter diving, but okay.
I'll leave it alone for now.
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On June 16 2014 10:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Updating where my reads are atm on everyone.
Village: Tehpoofter
Marv - obv, lock clear if he is a wolf we probably already lost
Koshi - stepped it up considerably day 2 claiming vigi
Roundabound - Casing my biggest wolf in ketomai, tone read on robik seems to be working on the village side
Slam - sticking with my gut on slam probably least sure about this read
ExO - Not use to the meta needs to step up more tonight/tomorrow if he wants to stay here he says he needs vote to analyse there has been plenty of that now
ObiWanSmurf - Seemed to be following along at EoD and actively wanting to figure out who to kill actions seem to favor village.
VA - Tried today a little bit seems to care at least moderately about the game and isn't just randomly throwing his vote on someone and afking for 48 hours
Bunnies - replaced erradorr seems to have read up on the game and know where the thread is at. I find it hard for a wolf to replace into this spot and come out free talking like she is but her wolf game does fall off so look at her a bit tomorrow or the next day
JAT - needs to stop sheeping marv only and find someone he thinks is wolf for his reasons. Lowest on the list because of a bit of weird interaction day 1 following marv's case on KoTC
People who could be villagers:
TicaTica - pushed hard on Haru at EoD if yamato is wolf insta lynch if yamato village he is okay until his EoD day 2 he was in the village not too worried but not green green.
Rainbows - Tunneled a village that I read as wolf so good line of thinking but could be wolf pushing on a village would like to see where his reads are now
Kush - kush is a hard read sounds like we might not need to worry about what alignment he is after tonight but if he lives need some improvement on activity.
Chromatically - was going strong day one but has ended up off the wagon voting wise would love to see him EOD doing things as well as sticking out a bit more to me. I had him as village pretty hard day 1 but starting to think Koshi might be GOAT and pegged you day 1.
ritoky - a bit too lurky his read on me wasn't awful and I don't blame him for the read although I'd like to see him evolve his reads a little bit more I'm kinda worried of a wolf who is just tunneling on some people unlikely to die to seem involved.
People who need to talk about someone besides Kush:
HF - Play the game your exam is over Kush is perhaps 1 of 5 wolves find the other 4 please.
[pink]People who need to not be donkies with their votes and instead of just afking during EoD actually participate and try to convince other people they're right or wrong for some reason and not just stick a vote on someone and do shit all else:
Batsnacks - I think your comment about your vote is legit one of the silliest things I've ever heard someone say about their voting patterns. Its almost too dumb to come from a wolf but I would still lynch you for it. You need to participate in the votes if you're a villager your vote makes a BIG difference EoD and if the village votes on 2-3 wagons only its harder for wolves to manipulate and makes analysis after we see some flips VERY useful. If you just vote one person and no one else you're not helping village EVEN IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE RIGHT ABOUT THAT ONE PERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I wish there was more colors so I could make you pink) [/pink]
Lurkers that need to post more presumed wolf until proven town: Would kill these people
gumshoe - Day 1 played Day 2 went into full Afk mode step up or step out.
Sandroba - You are suppose to be good, I don't see it afking as wolf is lame your play in catastrophe impressed me. (I will say this you live in brazil if I remember right so if you're involved in the world cup just tell us if that shit was where I live I wouldn't be playing this game I'd be off watching games and enjoying that once in a lifetime experience)
SnB - was the day 1 counterwagon to a wolf I'm most hesitant about lynching you but you need to step up your game or you'll make me start thinking it was Vanilla wolf vs Power Wolf
MattisFoolish - Foolish I expect more tbh the day 1 read on MZ was weak. Your day 2 EoD was pretty good but there is 2 of you and you're really not even doing what 1/2 a person would do. Matt Is also really bad at being a wolf so makes me a bit leery
Sinani206 - I forgot you were in the game until I read the player list. I'm actually going to filter dive you after this and see where I end up you might be in the wrong spot tbh.
yamato77 - Talked to you earlier you perked up for a bit and showed signs of life but thats not enoguh you need to play the game not just sheep marv nad come up with things I've seen you paly before and I know you're capable of helping village out please do so.
Wolves:
Ketomai - I didn't like the way he responded to Round's case yesterday. He also has stated several times before that there was no case on him despite myself making a big case on him including a photo and everything which he ignored. I also don't see his reads evolving like I would expect a town's to evolve. I will be making a much larger case later but this is just a reads post.
Chariman Ray - Vote on erradorr - IS MEGA SKETCHY you don't seemed concerned with solving the game. I will be doing a bit more on him later after Ketomai as well but want to keep this wall of text less wall more text.
Slam: I have no idea how you people are reading him. Exo: Don't really get a townread here and you gave no reasons for it. Explain? Me: Things on my own? Like my KotC read? I was scummy on him before marv. And I certainly won't stop sheeping marv if he keeps going after targets I agree on. MIF: What about their day2 was pretty good? Rest is somewhat ok for me.
S I'm going to give you all the basis for my read on slam.
HAs anyone ever heard of the site Epicmafia? Well that's where I got my mafia start 2 years ago. It's text based, semi forum-ish, except the entire game lasts like 30mins tops, and there are fifty million setups to play. No lie.
And trolls. Trolls everywhere (including me on rare occasions that I feel like trolling the newbies). And with games going so fast, you rely on gut instinct, and whether or not you can read through the bullshit people present in those games (which I can do pretty damn well).
So basically, the best way I can put it, Slam is like a five year old on epicmafia, trolling and spamming the shit out of chat and you have to read him and interact with him based off of that. So did you see how I interacted with him?
I called him out, questioned his reads, and made him actually give me something I could work with instead of the spam nonsense he usually does. I basically talked to him like a teacher talks t a five year old (Sorry slam, but you know it's true).
Based off of that is how I read slam. His reaction to me talking to him seemed townie.
I hope this helps clarify things.
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On June 16 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2014 10:40 roundabound wrote:On June 16 2014 05:57 Alakaslam wrote:
C'mon scum double stack me
I can take you all on On June 16 2014 05:58 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Slam, I'm disappointed in you this game. I was reading you pretty townie d1, but you've slacked off.
Help me out here buddy.
Why are you town?? And who is the mafia? On June 16 2014 06:00 Alakaslam wrote:
I been gone
Just got here
Decided "forget these 20 pages what is happening now eh?" While waiting for someone in parking lot
"HIJOLE 5 MINUTES BANDWAGON"
Then drive
So
At least I didn fret modkilled. And I am town because (host) saw for for whatever reason.
I am unsure who is scum maybe VA
I see his frog and toad On June 16 2014 06:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
There are 5 mafia left, yes?
You gotta give me something better than VA.
But why VA?
On June 16 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Yamato? I dunno shizzl
Va I told you I see his frog and toad Like I dont get how this interaction makes him town even on gut feel. And you are leading him as well; which OK maybe trying to goad him to make a reasonable response, but i cant follow this. Sorry. ~moc Yeah, bunnies seems to assume that slam is a retard if she is town. But he isn't.
Actually, I hate the r word, so please don't use that.
Also, i dont think that all. It's just how i get my reads.
But it's obv all this is doing is discrediting me, so im just gonna shut up now.
Continue with whatever, im gonna be afk from this game for awhile.
Playing video maf tonight.
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