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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 10 2014 21:34 GMT
#536
On June 11 2014 06:33 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.

Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote


I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.

On June 11 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Which one?


On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest

If you're town, you don't know how to read shit. If you're mafia...carry on. I'm not gonna let myself get mislynched.


Have you seen the voting thread lately?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 10 2014 21:42 GMT
#546
On June 11 2014 06:33 sinani206 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:33 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:32 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
[quote]
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.

Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote


I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.

On June 11 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Which one?


On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


I did respond... you just quoted it.


I don't know what "the deepest one in the nest" means.


Oh, sorry. The comment nest. This one, to be exact.

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic


I'm sorry I still don't know what you're asking. What does "what was your post then" mean? I was just chasing after roundabout because for one he's a hydra and I hate hydras and two because I feel like I'm making progress by pursuing him.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 10 2014 21:47 GMT
#556
On June 11 2014 06:38 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:33 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:27 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:24 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
[quote]
Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

You think that sinani posting that is worse than batsnacks not being able to respond and disprove the fact that he's done jack shit? The lack of logic this game so far is baffling.

Sinani asked batsnacks what batsnacks has done all game. He wasn't able to answer the question and he disappeared.

Batsnacks says that he's voting me because he hates hydras. He then goes on to soft push on me by saying shit like "this post isn't about this game so it doesn't mean anything" trying to justify his stupid vote


I responded. sinani didn't. I really hit the jackpot when I voted you. I could not have hoped for a better reaction.

On June 11 2014 06:16 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Which one?


On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest

If you're town, you don't know how to read shit. If you're mafia...carry on. I'm not gonna let myself get mislynched.


Have you seen the voting thread lately?

Do you think this says something about his alignment (eg is he scummier/townier for this attitude)?


No. I think his "if your town you can't read/play if you're mafia keep going" attitude is scummy.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 02:29 GMT
#889
Okay I'm caught up here's my notes so far:


Sinani - Scum. He treads too lightly and unsuccessfully tries to dodge the spotlight. He tries to direct the spotlight away from himself.

Chairman Ray - Too impressive a performance to be town. Leaning heavily toward mafia.

tehpoofer - Scum. My notes say "gave a lame apology." Voted roundabout for bad reasons, then unvoted roundabout for equally bad reasons. Voted for Koshi and switched soon after without pressuring Koshi at all. Soft defended sinani early on, then voted him for bad reasons, then unvoted him for bad reasons. Noticing a pattern. Tries to look like he's "helping" by pointing out when the thread started for kush. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what a hydra is. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what OMGUS means. Paraphrases other people's posts for them.

roundabout - Will probably be my vote for the rest of day 1. Looked way too nervous when I went after him early. Plus I hate hydras.

vayne - Skipped early game. Skipped more because "migraine." FOS

sandroba - Gets town cred for calling out Koshi first.

exo - "I'm new guys please take it easy on me." FOS

Bill Murray - My notes say "he liked exo's early posts." All of exo's early posts were questions about terminology that he could have easily googled. FOS

TicaTica - Expert troll? Null read.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 02:34 GMT
#893
On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote:
So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me

Mafia frequently do this to me

I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing


Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 02:38 GMT
#898
On June 11 2014 11:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
yo batsnacks, talk to me about marv. Read his filter first so it's fresh in your mind.


I've read every post in this thread. I am having a really difficult time reading Marv. If there is something specific he's done you want to talk about I'm happy to talk about it with you.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 02:41 GMT
#902
On June 11 2014 11:36 Bill Murray wrote:
Without someone like Roundabound protecting players like batsnacks we wouldn't have the mafia... they are the players that insulate them

Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 11:32 Bill Murray wrote:
So now I have 2 people I've cast suspicion on FoS me

Mafia frequently do this to me

I also have them both as having an associative tell so I'd call this near chainsawing


Instead of saying this you could have told me why you liked exo's early posts. Then it might just be 1 person with a FOS on you.

remember when marv said "anyone that thinks exo is scum is trash"? +1


Marv has said a lot of things I don't agree with. I can't even tell if Marv was being serious when he said that. Unless I'm missing something this still doesn't explain why you liked exo's early posts.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 02:45 GMT
#905
On June 11 2014 11:44 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 11:29 batsnacks wrote:
Okay I'm caught up here's my notes so far:


Sinani - Scum. He treads too lightly and unsuccessfully tries to dodge the spotlight. He tries to direct the spotlight away from himself.

Chairman Ray - Too impressive a performance to be town. Leaning heavily toward mafia.

tehpoofer - Scum. My notes say "gave a lame apology." Voted roundabout for bad reasons, then unvoted roundabout for equally bad reasons. Voted for Koshi and switched soon after without pressuring Koshi at all. Soft defended sinani early on, then voted him for bad reasons, then unvoted him for bad reasons. Noticing a pattern. Tries to look like he's "helping" by pointing out when the thread started for kush. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what a hydra is. Tries to look like he's "helping" by explaining what OMGUS means. Paraphrases other people's posts for them.

roundabout - Will probably be my vote for the rest of day 1. Looked way too nervous when I went after him early. Plus I hate hydras.

vayne - Skipped early game. Skipped more because "migraine." FOS

sandroba - Gets town cred for calling out Koshi first.

exo - "I'm new guys please take it easy on me." FOS

Bill Murray - My notes say "he liked exo's early posts." All of exo's early posts were questions about terminology that he could have easily googled. FOS

TicaTica - Expert troll? Null read.


you try googling hydra and see if you can get info on what it is. I tried searching for it when people were asking about hydras pre-game and all I came up with is a zerg unit that shoots both air and ground.


https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=mafia lingo hydra&btnG=Google Search&gbv=1
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 02:49 GMT
#909
On June 11 2014 11:47 ExO_ wrote:
I didn't think it was mafia lingo, I thought it was TL specific lingo. Didn't occur to me to search for mafia lingo. oh well


That's an acceptable excuse in my opinion since hydras are an SC unit. But you also asked about OMGUS.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 03:13 GMT
#934
Chairman that post is going to be really difficult to respond to because of all the quotes and formatting. I hope you won't mind if I take the lazy approach.

1. About sinani. There are specific posts but I don't feel like finding them. My notes are just my general feelings about the thread so far. Maybe my feelings are too metaphorical but at least I'm sharing them.

2. About you. Your posts are too intelligent and thorough. Are those better adjectives than "impressive"?

3. About tehpoofer. I believe everything I mentioned is alignment indicative. His posts have the theme of appearing to help but in ways that don't actually benefit town.

4. About Palmar. Palmar only made one "skip" post. Vayne made two consecutive "skip" posts. That's a big difference.

5. About sandroba. It's town indicative because I would have done the same thing. That thing that you said BillyMurray did either didn't make my notes because I interpreted whatever it was differently or because I missed it.

6. About exo. He posts only to benefit himself, not town. If I were newb town and didn't know what hydras or OMGUSing was I would make damn sure I couldn't educate myself before I asked in the thread.

7. About TicaTica. I commented on TicaTica because he made me laugh a couple times which I have never done as a result of TL mafia prior.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 03:21 GMT
#946
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote:
Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?


That's weird Tica I thought Chairman was my weakest read so far.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 03:24 GMT
#949
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT

HEY IF YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE COULD YOU PLEASE POST YOUR ##VOTE HERE TOO THANKS
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 03:34 GMT
#956
On June 11 2014 12:23 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote:
Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?


I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time.

What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic.


So Rainbows...

On June 11 2014 12:15 Rainbows wrote:
batsnacks how do you feel about CR so far? Since his post was directed at you.


Did you ever get your answer?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 03:40 GMT
#965
On June 11 2014 12:37 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:23 Rainbows wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote:
Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?


I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time.

What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic.


So Rainbows...

On June 11 2014 12:15 Rainbows wrote:
batsnacks how do you feel about CR so far? Since his post was directed at you.


Did you ever get your answer?


You generally answered "Your posts are too intelligent and thorough", which means he is mafia. I meant specifically what do you think CR's goal (assuming, he is town) this game, because the post where he asks you a bunch of questions seems to be irrelevant.


If CR is town I assume his goal is to lynch mafia?

I'm not trying to argue or disagree or whatever, but help me understand, why were his questions irrelevant?
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 03:49 GMT
#970
On June 11 2014 12:45 Rainbows wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 12:40 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:37 Rainbows wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:34 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:23 Rainbows wrote:
On June 11 2014 12:17 TicaTica wrote:
Is Rainbows around still? If he be, then peeky at batsnacks. His read post looks being rather off. Four Fifth of his null read are "easy pickings" read. His four wolfy reads are dastardly off base being my opinion (exception perhaps Chairman Ray). Only one of wolfy reads is even developed which being tehpoofter and the mindset is quite hmmmm unique. His reads look very fishing to me. What is your take?


I agree that the nulls were probably not even needed to be mentioned. The scum reads we OK, I don't agree with them all. Kind of sparse but it's the early game. I saw the post initially and it didn't strike me as super odd at the time.

What do you mean his mindset is unique? He's saying he saw a pattern in tehpoofter and he's looking likes he is helping. It's not a terrible analysis, just not fantastic.


So Rainbows...

On June 11 2014 12:15 Rainbows wrote:
batsnacks how do you feel about CR so far? Since his post was directed at you.


Did you ever get your answer?


You generally answered "Your posts are too intelligent and thorough", which means he is mafia. I meant specifically what do you think CR's goal (assuming, he is town) this game, because the post where he asks you a bunch of questions seems to be irrelevant.


If CR is town I assume his goal is to lynch mafia?

I'm not trying to argue or disagree or whatever, but help me understand, why were his questions irrelevant?


If CR is town, he is trying to figure out your intentions with your reads post. To see if YOU are mafia. If this is the case, why does he ask "Why not Palmar?" or "Why tica = null". He asks a question about every one of your reads. Feels like homework. Not all of the questions were bad, just some like "why is this scummy" when that should have been self-explanatory.


"Feels like homework" I like that. I like what you just said. Good.

Did you hear that MZ? It feels to me like Chairman Ray is doing homework i.e. responding carefully and intelligently to what he has to. He is the only person in this game I have this feeling about.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 04:23 GMT
#977
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 04:31 GMT
#982
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 04:37 GMT
#984
On June 11 2014 13:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.


hold up.

why do you think hes mafia if you like what hes saying?


I had a similar read last game and got some flak for it, but I did end up being right. Briefly, he responded great but in a way that re-enforces my initial suspicions about him. Too careful, too intelligent. I'm sticking with it.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 04:41 GMT
#986
On June 11 2014 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 13:37 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.


hold up.

why do you think hes mafia if you like what hes saying?


I had a similar read last game and got some flak for it, but I did end up being right. Briefly, he responded great but in a way that re-enforces my initial suspicions about him. Too careful, too intelligent. I'm sticking with it.


i never thought you could scumread someone for being too careful/intelligent.

btw, i actually forget, but who did you read for that last game?


Bunnies
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
June 11 2014 04:45 GMT
#988
On June 11 2014 13:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 13:41 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:37 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.


hold up.

why do you think hes mafia if you like what hes saying?


I had a similar read last game and got some flak for it, but I did end up being right. Briefly, he responded great but in a way that re-enforces my initial suspicions about him. Too careful, too intelligent. I'm sticking with it.


i never thought you could scumread someone for being too careful/intelligent.

btw, i actually forget, but who did you read for that last game?


Bunnies


bunnies scumread someone for being more active the longer the game went on.

its...not really the same thing.


No you misunderstand. I scumread bunnies for playing too good.
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