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On June 23 2014 05:41 Holyflare wrote:
Ok here's the deal. This game has become a complete null game because I asked the host and kp is factional. Having trackers as a role becomes completely redundant as they can only really track blue actions which gimps us because they would have thought they were revealing red ppl instead of just revealing blues, with all the afking and shit too this game is pretty much a write off.
Well, that helps us how? Bleh.
Also, I'm still up for lynching Ritoky and batsnacks today.
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Okay, bear with me guys. This is going to be a long post.
Lets see what we have
1. ObiWanShinobi
3. ritoky- fakecop/vt
9. 27ninjabunnies- vt
10. sinani206- tracker on bunnies and round- novisits
15. Alakaslam
18. Chairman Ray
19. roundabound- mason claim?
21. strongandbig
24. Holyflare
27. batsnacks
28. VayneAuthority
29. Chromatically- tracker- on rainbows and forgot who else
Now we know there is a jk somewhere, cause of marv claiming jailed.
Jk shouldnt out just yet imo.
Round claimed mason, but not sure if that was a vt taking a bullet or mafia searching for real mason.
Also, with 5 mafia, there should have only been 2kp.
# of mafia / 2 rounded down according to kp rules on page 1.
Which means the 3rd kp last night wS either from the 50% hip shot or the mafia vig, so be aware, we could have 3kp again on us tonight or just 2kp. Either way this is a mylo/lylo situation.
Now, i wouldnt touch me or round this day, even if kp is factional as hf says.
(Which i dont understand how kp is factional).
So id lynch ritoky or batsnacks until we get claims otherwise.
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On June 23 2014 09:10 Chromatically wrote:
Can someone explain to me why ritoky does his fakeclaim as scum? I'm not convinced he's scum.
Can you explain how he does that as town?
He had you as his top scum. It would have made more sense claiming a red on you.
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On June 23 2014 09:29 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 09:27 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 23 2014 09:10 Chromatically wrote:
Can someone explain to me why ritoky does his fakeclaim as scum? I'm not convinced he's scum. Can you explain how he does that as town? He had you as his top scum. It would have made more sense claiming a red on you. Didn't he do it as town to you in another game?
Yeah. But two different games. Just because he was town in the other, doesnt mean he is town in this one
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So i didn't disappear on purpose. Can you link me the auestion?
So reason why I was gone, my brother got his truck in the river bed, so my dad and I had to go pull him out!
Then my dad was an idiot, and got his truck stuck, so we had to call another guy to pull both of us out.
So basically we are muddy, finally unstuck, and i just want a shower.
Hence why the update from my phone!!
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On June 23 2014 13:52 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 12:10 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So i didn't disappear on purpose. Can you link me the auestion?
So reason why I was gone, my brother got his truck in the river bed, so my dad and I had to go pull him out!
Then my dad was an idiot, and got his truck stuck, so we had to call another guy to pull both of us out.
So basically we are muddy, finally unstuck, and i just want a shower.
Hence why the update from my phone!! + Show Spoiler +
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On June 23 2014 14:21 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 08:51 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, bear with me guys. This is going to be a long post.
Lets see what we have
1. ObiWanShinobi
3. ritoky- fakecop/vt
9. 27ninjabunnies- vt
10. sinani206- tracker on bunnies and round- novisits
15. Alakaslam
18. Chairman Ray
19. roundabound- mason claim?
21. strongandbig
24. Holyflare
27. batsnacks
28. VayneAuthority
29. Chromatically- tracker- on rainbows and forgot who else
Now we know there is a jk somewhere, cause of marv claiming jailed.
Jk shouldnt out just yet imo.
Round claimed mason, but not sure if that was a vt taking a bullet or mafia searching for real mason.
Also, with 5 mafia, there should have only been 2kp.
# of mafia / 2 rounded down according to kp rules on page 1.
Which means the 3rd kp last night wS either from the 50% hip shot or the mafia vig, so be aware, we could have 3kp again on us tonight or just 2kp. Either way this is a mylo/lylo situation.
Now, i wouldnt touch me or round this day, even if kp is factional as hf says.
(Which i dont understand how kp is factional).
So id lynch ritoky or batsnacks until we get claims otherwise.
How do you come to these two from this?
Because Ritoky and batsnacks are two fos Ive had the entire game. Then ritoky fake claims with a red on me and a green on his top scum read. Both which have been disproven by Chrom's tracker claim/miller claim and sinani's tracker claim which stated that I visited no one in the night. Once his claim was disproven by Chrom, he claimed vt. I just don't buy it.
Batsnacks- well the way he was pushing earlier in the game on (I think CR? Idr) with the whole "Your posts are too logical and too thorough. You must be scum) and has basically done nothing else this game, and when I call him out for it, he goes "Oh nb must be scum here". Another thing I dont buy.
I'll have to read more in their filters to make sure and see if I can find anything else, but I'm pretty sure these are the lynches for today.
I'd also be willing to lynch CR, SNB, HF, and OWS. Andpossibly you too, because Im not so sure on you as I was when I subbed in.
We are at the high possibility There's 5 mafia still out there out of us 12. We need to lynch right. or it is autolose for town.
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And the reason why it's autolose if there's 5 mafia, mafia for sure have 2kp. Which now it's 5 mafia, 7 town. With a ml, 5 mafia to 6 town, and then 2kp puts to 5 mafia-4 town. MAfia wins.
If we lynch correctly, we are at 4mafia with 2kp still. 5m-7t to 4m-7t, and 2kp puts 4m-5t.
We absolutely CANNOT afford a ml these next two days on.
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While ya'll mull that over, I'll be back to talk and discuss after I get some sleep. Really long day.
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On June 23 2014 14:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
And the reason why it's autolose if there's 5 mafia, mafia for sure have 2kp. Which now it's 5 mafia, 7 town. With a ml, 5 mafia to 6 town, and then 2kp puts to 5 mafia-4 town. MAfia wins.
If we lynch correctly, we are at 4mafia with 2kp still. 5m-7t to 4m-7t, and 2kp puts 4m-5t.
We absolutely CANNOT afford a ml these next two days on.
For your guys' viewing pleasure! Also i just woke up, so give me a chance to read.
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roundabound- VT/ mason switch claim (Very odd that rainbows dies the night that their "switch" happened)
Holyflare - VT
ObiWanShinobi - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT
SLAM- Vet?
batsnacks - VT
strongandbig - VT
VayneAuthority - VT
Sinani-Tracker
Chairman Ray - VT
ritoky - VT
Chrom- tracker
So until we get a JK claim, I'm refusing to believe we have a JK. Marv could have easily faked getting jailed to get more checks. Why he didn't out his checks if there is no jk, well thats another question.
So above I bolded green who we should not lynch today. The rest are up for grabs.
Even though I am super SUPER paranoid that round is mafia this game, for the fact alone that rainbows died the same night he claimed that round was mason, was super weird, I'm willing to leave him alone for another day.
Holyflare has been trying to figure this out and not solely complaining on how this game has gone to shit.
I am town, and I'm not lynching the last 3 blue claims unless we get counterclaims.
So that leaves 6 people left to lynch out of, and 5 are mafia from my perspective.
Omg, guess who are in those 6?! PEOPLE IVE BEEN ON ALL GAME!
Seriously, I should be listened to more.
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Oh and ##Vote: Ritoky
Cause there is NO freaking way we should let that claim go on this long.
Though someone may convince me to switch to batsnacks. Both need to die today.
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Actually, After reading that case Moc just quoted, Im starting to wonder if SNB s a better vote. Holy hell that case on chrom is pretty bad.
I don't see any scum motivation for Chrom to fake claim there, especially miller. He could just go with the green check and be cleared basically and get me ML if he was scum. So Im believing Chrom here.
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On June 24 2014 03:19 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 02:34 27ninjabunnies wrote:
roundabound- VT/ mason switch claim (Very odd that rainbows dies the night that their "switch" happened)
Holyflare - VT
ObiWanShinobi - VT
Erandorr replaced by 27ninjabunnies - VT
SLAM- Vet?
batsnacks - VT
strongandbig - VT
VayneAuthority - VT
Sinani-Tracker
Chairman Ray - VT
ritoky - VT
Chrom- tracker
So until we get a JK claim, I'm refusing to believe we have a JK. Marv could have easily faked getting jailed to get more checks. Why he didn't out his checks if there is no jk, well thats another question.
So above I bolded green who we should not lynch today. The rest are up for grabs.
Even though I am super SUPER paranoid that round is mafia this game, for the fact alone that rainbows died the same night he claimed that round was mason, was super weird, I'm willing to leave him alone for another day.
Holyflare has been trying to figure this out and not solely complaining on how this game has gone to shit.
I am town, and I'm not lynching the last 3 blue claims unless we get counterclaims.
So that leaves 6 people left to lynch out of, and 5 are mafia from my perspective.
Omg, guess who are in those 6?! PEOPLE IVE BEEN ON ALL GAME!
Seriously, I should be listened to more.
I got masoned n2. I would have killed him then instead of the 10+ VTs that were killed instead. -.- Plus, I told him to mason marv the next day and checked with the mod multiple times to make sure that the mason would go through in case marv was jk'd or rb'd (i expressed this in thread as well).
OOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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The fact that they still want to lynch me even when I've offered up the most information to help town (minus HF who offered up a bunch too) boggle s my mind. Seriously. Im not mafia,
We lynch Ritoky, Batsnacks, OWS, VA, SNB, and CR and we win.
There's only 1 VT in there, and 5 mafia. we have 5/6 chance of hitting mafia out of there unless I'm super wrong on HF being town.
So there ya have it.
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On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything.
I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.
I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game.
So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is.
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On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything. I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game. So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is. wat
What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game.
So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game.
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On June 24 2014 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything. I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game. So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is. wat What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game. So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game. Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited. oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error. Must have been, cause i never got a message. But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town. Both times. And this time. Your read on me is awful. ?
By both times and this time, i was implying this time was in the both times. He has faked a red on me twice.
I think he attempted to do it this time as mafia, and his plan failed through.
I've stated this multiple times OWS.
Why are you trying so hard to bury me?
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On June 24 2014 04:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:
The fact that they still want to lynch me even when I've offered up the most information to help town (minus HF who offered up a bunch too) boggle s my mind. Seriously. Im not mafia,
We lynch Ritoky, Batsnacks, OWS, VA, SNB, and CR and we win.
There's only 1 VT in there, and 5 mafia. we have 5/6 chance of hitting mafia out of there unless I'm super wrong on HF being town.
So there ya have it. Idk about this at all lol.
HAve you read the last 10+pages.
Definitely iven a hell lot more information than you have.
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On June 24 2014 04:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 04:56 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 24 2014 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 24 2014 04:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On June 24 2014 04:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 24 2014 04:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
even bunnies admitted that ritoky claims cop as a vt. so either youre not paying attention or both bunnies and ritoky are lying about their back and forth.
the second scenario isnt even plausible.
and you still only have four people in your list. if youre going to call those people mafia, give reasoning for why you think that. everybody is sitting around posting shitlists that accomplish nothing and dont convince anyone of anything. I never said he claims cop as VT, Im saying he claimed cop in one game as VT where he is wrong on me and I was town that game.I am also sayin that this game is SUPER different than the huge Golden Sun factional game. So him claiming cop in one game as VT doesnt mean he is doing it this game as VT. He could very well be mafia, and I think he is. wat What you were implying is that I say he always claims cop as vt. He did it in one game against me, where he was VT. And he did it this game, which I think he is mafia this game. So saying that I admit ritoky claims cop as VT is wrong. He did it in one game. And i think he is mafia this game. On June 21 2014 14:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:On June 21 2014 14:15 ritoky wrote:On June 21 2014 14:14 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Nope, i didn't get recruited. oh, well in the end game listing i swore it said you got recruited...must have been part of that mod error. Must have been, cause i never got a message. But anyway, it doesnt matter if I was recuited or not. You fake claimed red on me when i was town. Both times. And this time. Your read on me is awful. ? By both times and this time, i was implying this time was in the both times. He has faked a red on me twice. I think he attempted to do it this time as mafia, and his plan failed through. I've stated this multiple times OWS. Why are you trying so hard to bury me? not really trying to bury you. youre doing that well enough on your own. i still dont see what the difference is between this game and the other games where he has fakeclaimed, which is the exact reason youre pushing him as a lynch. whats the difference and why should i listen to you?
I don't think I am burying myself at all. People have had trs on me all game.
And because, disregard the fake claim for a bit in the beginning. It will come up later though.
In all games I have played with ritoky as town, he has come out confident, hard, and active, pushing his reads and lynches and questioning hard on other people.
Now take a look at this game- he comes into the thread with a "Oh look freedom" post (From Cell 2), which seemed super forced. He then argues with chrom, He gave a list of reads, one of which his read was on Chrom as his TOP SCUM. The he afks. He comes back, gives another list of reads, again which include Chrom as his top scum, and then afks again. Not once in these few days has he questioned hard, been super confident, or pushed anything. This is not town ritoky im used to.
And I've had him on my scum list since day 1 of me replacing. And I made it known with voting him multiple times.
And he comes back. This time with his fakeclaim of cop, Chrom being his green check, me being his red.
By this time, I was getting pressured by some of the people I have on my list as mafia, so this seems like a possibilty of pushing me further under the pressure, and it might have worked if his claim hadnt of totally failed when Chrom claimed miller.
He realized his claim was falling apart, and rescinded and claimed VT.
So points I have against ritoky.
1. Not being normal town ritoky im used to.
2. Forced reads/ forced posts.
3. Green checked his top scum read and red checked someone who wasnt even in his reads. He actually never mentions me.
4. rescinds his cop claim and claims vt when he realizes his claim is going to shit.
So, can you see why I am mafia reading ritoky?
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