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mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 23:09 GMT
#2081
Also I'm pretty sure ritoky is town, and I'm still not opposed to ketomai being lynched.

Just giving everything I've got out there while I'm here, I'm not certain if I'll be able to post again over the next 24 hours and I have no idea what Mattchew is doing. I'll be here another 30 minutes or so.

~Foolishness
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 12 2014 23:11 GMT
#2082
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


contribute

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 23:12 GMT
#2083
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


contribute

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#2084
On June 13 2014 08:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure ritoky is town, and I'm still not opposed to ketomai being lynched.

Just giving everything I've got out there while I'm here, I'm not certain if I'll be able to post again over the next 24 hours and I have no idea what Mattchew is doing. I'll be here another 30 minutes or so.

~Foolishness


Have I not gotten to the post where you detail your read on MZ? Can you do so briefly if you can? I honestly could have missed it and if I have you can just say filter or something but I don't remember it.

Also why is ritoky town and why is ketomai a good lynch?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 12 2014 23:22 GMT
#2085
On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


contribute

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 12 2014 23:23 GMT
#2086
The way of Huey is upon us!! Beware!!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 23:24 GMT
#2087
On June 13 2014 08:16 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 08:09 mattisfoolish wrote:
Also I'm pretty sure ritoky is town, and I'm still not opposed to ketomai being lynched.

Just giving everything I've got out there while I'm here, I'm not certain if I'll be able to post again over the next 24 hours and I have no idea what Mattchew is doing. I'll be here another 30 minutes or so.

~Foolishness


Have I not gotten to the post where you detail your read on MZ? Can you do so briefly if you can? I honestly could have missed it and if I have you can just say filter or something but I don't remember it.

Also why is ritoky town and why is ketomai a good lynch?

In short, you can tell if MZ is town by how aggressive he is. If he's putting himself out there and calling people idiots, then town. If he's being logical with his posts and not sticking his neck out then he's mafia. He's always been an easier read for me which is why I went after him right away. In Golden Sun 2 mafia he was town and he was very apparent town from me on day 1 because of his attitude. This game is the complete opposite and I saw it right away.

I think ritoky is town because he seems confident in his posting and is putting his thoughts out. I saw someone say that he's mafia (this was a while ago) so I decided to look into it. Honestly I think this guy got some heat in a recent game as well when he was town and I'm noticing a similar sort of pattern. I also don't get the feeling that he's hiding anything in his posting.

Ketomai is a good lynch because I have no idea what alignment he is. I think a few others have said some words about him; I'll just defer to that for now.


I just read Gumshoe's filter and it made me really uncomfortable. I suggest everyone take a look at him if you have a free minute.
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
June 12 2014 23:33 GMT
#2088
On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

1) I was suspicious of him BEFORE marvs case and also said this in the thread.
2) No, it does not make a lot of sense. It did not seem like marv was locked in on this lynch if I was mafia with KotC the logical thing would be to try and make marv go after someone else. Why would I give up KP without a fight.
3) I had a strong townread on marv at that point. Letting townmarv decide things has proven helpful in the past. I let him lead. Sue me.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 12 2014 23:41 GMT
#2089
Hi.

Go Brazil !

Starting from page 75, but Robik told me the lynch result - awesome work guys keeping up the TL tradition !!

~moc
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 12 2014 23:41 GMT
#2090
Well MZ is calling me an idiot. I dont know if that counts.
I had a good night of sleep.
mattisfoolish
Profile Joined May 2014
United States76 Posts
June 12 2014 23:41 GMT
#2091
On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

This seems like a convoluted way to prove someone is scum...
We are fools (Mattchew/Foolishness)
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 12 2014 23:46 GMT
#2092
On June 13 2014 08:33 justanothertownie wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

1) I was suspicious of him BEFORE marvs case and also said this in the thread.
2) No, it does not make a lot of sense. It did not seem like marv was locked in on this lynch if I was mafia with KotC the logical thing would be to try and make marv go after someone else. Why would I give up KP without a fight.
3) I had a strong townread on marv at that point. Letting townmarv decide things has proven helpful in the past. I let him lead. Sue me.


Its why I said it was "weird" and not "wolfy"

Also as to point #2 just after the King case you made these posts:

Targetting SnB
On June 12 2014 22:09 justanothertownie wrote:
SnB:
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On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum

I don't like this post.
Palmar not trying is not scummy. SnB puts suspicion in Rainbows for the scumread on Koshi while he does the same (and his reasoning is not very detailed either).
Says Koshi is scum but likes his reasoning for Tica being scum (I disagree).

Has done nothing else except for complaining.

We can definitely kill that guy. I see nothing towny here and if you compare his filter to YOSO you will see that he is much townier there.


and then Ketomai

On June 12 2014 22:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ketomai:

Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think.
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On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote:
Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.

Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring.

He then promises one content post and delivers this:
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On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
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On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.

I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB.


just after the marv case. Seems like soft pushes away from a possible marv train on a buddy.... although if either flips wolf then I'd disregard it.

I'll check your filter on point 1 and point 3 makes sense for sure but its odd you brought up these two other guys right after. Again I'm throwing this in the 'weird' not 'wolfy' pile. However, you're definitely not getting village admittance.

@JaT who do you think looks the worst after the lynch?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 12 2014 23:58 GMT
#2093
On June 13 2014 08:41 mattisfoolish wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

This seems like a convoluted way to prove someone is scum...


Yep. Not sure what to make of it reading further didn't ease my concerns thats for sure as you can see from my latest post. Am I just reading too much association into it? I feel like I would still rather resolve Ketomai's alignment as he is my strongest wolf read still.

Still catching up at work really digging the live interaction though so good for us!

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On June 12 2014 23:50 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
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On June 12 2014 23:30 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 23:26 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 12 2014 23:11 marvellosity wrote:
is that how you actually read it then?

Coming from someone that said Round was scum for using a nickname i wouldn't put it past him to try that. The problem is it's difficult to tell if he's bad scum or just bad, that's why i FoS'd him. On their own they're not good enough reasons to lynch him but they count as points against him if he does something blatantly scummy down the road.

I don't believe you:

On June 11 2014 14:28 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Having said that here's a proper read. Exo (or is it EvO?) is town. Scum wouldn't be stupid enough to point out someone was breadcrumbing a power role in the thread and seeing as he's proved that he's a noob he wouldn't be smart enough to know the WIFOM potential of pointing it out as scum either.


I think you are mafia.

Those situations are completely different. ExO was responding to poofter stating outright that he was seer a few hours into the game, the claim was obviously a joke and Exo responded by telling him not to claim:
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On June 11 2014 08:56 ExO_ wrote:
Without being too specific, isn't leaving obvious breadcrumbs this early risky poofter? If you are who you're claiming you'll get taken out right away, and if you don't it makes it more likely that your evil. But anybody could work that much out, so what I'd like to know is why leave a post like that: seems risky if that is your role to put it out in public.

Bats was fishing for information, asking Haru to claim:
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On June 12 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:38 marvellosity wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:37 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:35 marvellosity wrote:
Haru's general tone is quite different to Detention Mafia actually

Hmm.

*looks at Haru*

hmmmmmm



Detention mafia is my first game in TL lol. Nice way to judge. I learnt some stuff over there that is changing my 'meta' a bit.

first game or not, the difference is striking.

how would you say your 'meta' is changing, then?


For example, I've learnt through the death of JWZ that d1 is simply a day to collect info. Thus I'll try all means to collect info on d1, throw it out in a giant ball on n1 or d2 (depending if I survive the night) and home in on targets d2.


Haru, did you just claim power role?

Plus he did it after i pointed out the WIFOM potential. Context is key.


YES JUST A JOKE!!!
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 13 2014 00:12 GMT
#2094
On June 13 2014 08:41 Koshi wrote:
Well MZ is calling me an idiot. I dont know if that counts.

koshi/MZ not m/m
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
June 13 2014 00:33 GMT
#2095
On June 13 2014 08:46 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


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On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

1) I was suspicious of him BEFORE marvs case and also said this in the thread.
2) No, it does not make a lot of sense. It did not seem like marv was locked in on this lynch if I was mafia with KotC the logical thing would be to try and make marv go after someone else. Why would I give up KP without a fight.
3) I had a strong townread on marv at that point. Letting townmarv decide things has proven helpful in the past. I let him lead. Sue me.


Its why I said it was "weird" and not "wolfy"

Also as to point #2 just after the King case you made these posts:

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On June 12 2014 22:09 justanothertownie wrote:
SnB:
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum

I don't like this post.
Palmar not trying is not scummy. SnB puts suspicion in Rainbows for the scumread on Koshi while he does the same (and his reasoning is not very detailed either).
Says Koshi is scum but likes his reasoning for Tica being scum (I disagree).

Has done nothing else except for complaining.

We can definitely kill that guy. I see nothing towny here and if you compare his filter to YOSO you will see that he is much townier there.


and then Ketomai

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On June 12 2014 22:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ketomai:

Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote:
Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.

Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring.

He then promises one content post and delivers this:
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On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
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On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.

I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB.


just after the marv case. Seems like soft pushes away from a possible marv train on a buddy.... although if either flips wolf then I'd disregard it.

I'll check your filter on point 1 and point 3 makes sense for sure but its odd you brought up these two other guys right after. Again I'm throwing this in the 'weird' not 'wolfy' pile. However, you're definitely not getting village admittance.

@JaT who do you think looks the worst after the lynch?

Yes, or maybe I did this because marv asked me to? Ever thought of that?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 13 2014 00:35 GMT
#2096
Just as a heads up, I'm not gonna be around during the nightphase, will be on for a bit tomorrow, and be active again Saturday. Cya!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 13 2014 00:55 GMT
#2097
On June 13 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:
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On June 13 2014 08:46 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:33 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:22 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On June 13 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
Poofter how are your reads going btw? Any updates?


Have only read through just after the point where Marv made his case. Idk what JAT is doing around these pages its weird. I'll give it as I go. This Annoys me+ Show Spoiler +
On June 12 2014 21:18 HaruRH wrote:
Heck, I'll even help you make a huge post on why we should all lynch Haru.

Firstly, this haru guy don't even

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On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray


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On June 12 2014 05:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:40 Koshi wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:29 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:08 Chromatically wrote:
gumshoe, I couldn't help but notice that your post is lacking a read on Koshi. Care to indulge me?


I liked your push onto him, but I'm not a fan of how quickly the wagon picked up speed. That and alota people I don't like have been taking sucker punches at Koshi throughout the game ( namely chairman). As for the contradiction, it looks bad, but as someone who contradicts himself constantly I can totally see it coming out of town Koshi. Lastly, saying your gonna play awesome then not posting for ages is sorta asking to get lynched, scum Koshi is more careful that that / : I could be wrong( not a foreign state for me ) but at the moment I much rather lynch chair and I'd like to see what Koshi contributes while not under threat of lynch.


I can agree with gumshoe on CR. Like I mentioned, CR's initial attack on koshi seemed to be gathering towncred in later stages of the game by referencing to it. I don't see a need for town to do it.

All the votes on koshi were... weird. Rainbows and ticatica just sat on the koshiwagon and drove off together. Not a good sign tbh.

My vote on koshi is a placeholder. Now that he deviates off his HUGE ASS POST PLAYMAKER style, he seemed to be more obnoxious than ever. Its hard to find obnoxious scum who might succumb to a policy lynch.

##Vote:Chairman Ray

CR defended me from the get-go. The posts he made around me were also extremely thought out. If you are referring to him saying my post looked scummy than that is because he actually thought it looked scummy. But after that he gave reasons to why he thinks I am town. If I remember correctly from a previous game CR is capable to make big thought out post as scum, but he is more disconnected with the thread while doing so, he just pops in with huge ass posts. In this game he is having good thought out opinions in the moment. I wouldn't lynch him.

Those other 2 names in your post, Rainbows and TicaTica, those are the people that are interesting.


Meta argument is something I cannot push upon since I don't know much about anyone yet. So I'll just assume that koshi is correct about CR's play. I'll stay with this vote until someone more scummy pops out.


At

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 18:05 HaruRH wrote:
After diving SnB, I realised the pool is so shallow theres no need to bring a snorkel. So here's why SnB makes me wanna lynch the scum out of him:

On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum


On June 12 2014 04:55 strongandbig wrote:
Blergh caught up with the thread and lunch is over
[complain about spam, maybe if I do it more it's likely to work]

Anyway, I would kill koshi right now. Don't have anything new to add, I like chromatic ally's case

Also would still kill rainbows


soo... He thinks koshi makes good arguments, then want to lynch koshi.

On June 12 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:31 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
On June 11 2014 13:23 batsnacks wrote:
Chairman, without reading the above post, I really wish both your posts about me weren't perfectly sequential dissections of literally everything I said.


Sorry, I'll try to keep it brief from now on. You can just read the "Overall" statement at the end


Look I like everything you said I think it's great. I read the whole thing. You got an A+ on your homework for sure. I really, really, really hate that you commented on everything I said in the order I said it in both posts though. If you are mafia which I think you probably are, that's the only thing you should have changed to make it better.

This is stupid.

There's nothing wrong with an in-depth post by post analysis and the fact that newer players don't know this is just a sign of how spammy and annoying the meta has gotten .


Then he shitposts.


ALL.

Then, this haru guy dont even defend himself

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On June 12 2014 20:43 HaruRH wrote:
On June 12 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote:
by and large Haru was very earnest and straightforward in Detention (as well as kinda fun at the start), whereas i'm not really seeing any of that here.


So you're meta-ing me based on 1 game? Lol thats the reason why I'm changing now, to avoid further meta reads.

Not going to streamline my play into 1 category lol


Thus I deduce this haru guy is scum 100%. ##Vote: HaruRH
not sure if its really alignment indicative but it makes me not like him.

What is weird about JAT? I am very interested.



On page 81 right after the case on Marv happened JAT was argueing with you and felt like to me really buddying Marv. Since we now know KoTC was wolf the logic of JAT seeing a teammate going down to villageMarv and wanting to immediately help makes a lot of sense here. I need to read the rest of how the day evolved cause he did end up voting him but I would not be surprised by the interactions on that page if JAT turned out to be wolf.

1) I was suspicious of him BEFORE marvs case and also said this in the thread.
2) No, it does not make a lot of sense. It did not seem like marv was locked in on this lynch if I was mafia with KotC the logical thing would be to try and make marv go after someone else. Why would I give up KP without a fight.
3) I had a strong townread on marv at that point. Letting townmarv decide things has proven helpful in the past. I let him lead. Sue me.


Its why I said it was "weird" and not "wolfy"

Also as to point #2 just after the King case you made these posts:

Targetting SnB
On June 12 2014 22:09 justanothertownie wrote:
SnB:
On June 11 2014 23:41 strongandbig wrote:
Finished reading through page 48 on phone
Have to go to work
Some notes to calm thy tits, thread:
Townish:
- chromatically

Scummish:
- palmar not trying on day 1
- koshi for pretty random townreads and listpost
- rainbows bad reasoning for scum read on koshi. Tries to make something shitty up, indicates he's not comfortable just agreeing with good reasoning already posted - indicates selfconscious mafia.

Good args:
- chromatically on why sinani is scum
- mz on why round is scum
- koshi on why tica is scum
- (sort of good) round on why ketomi is scum

I don't like this post.
Palmar not trying is not scummy. SnB puts suspicion in Rainbows for the scumread on Koshi while he does the same (and his reasoning is not very detailed either).
Says Koshi is scum but likes his reasoning for Tica being scum (I disagree).

Has done nothing else except for complaining.

We can definitely kill that guy. I see nothing towny here and if you compare his filter to YOSO you will see that he is much townier there.


and then Ketomai

On June 12 2014 22:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ketomai:

Weird start with the voting but not alignment indicative I think.
On June 11 2014 12:18 ketomai wrote:
Go for it if you want to waste your time and lynch. People who are hanging onto me are clearly just looking for another topic to create more chaos or just to prod me. It's pretty obvious to anyone objectively looking that I haven't even started the game yet. If the town is stupid enough to blind lynch me, then so be it. Have fun losing the rest of your game if you get manipulated into being distracted by random comments like mine.

Scummy post. Unwarranted martyring.

He then promises one content post and delivers this:
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 12 2014 12:33 ketomai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i noticed poofter's post on ketomai and i realized that ketomai still hasnt done anything and should still probably die. more votes on him pls.


I'm here and I realize you're just pressuring me to respond, but reading 50 straight pages of mostly spam is honestly exhausting (and impossible for me after a long day at work). I gave up in the middle and just took a cursory glance through filters and whatnot for current top votes. I also took a look at a few other people that showed up near the beginning of the thread. I'll try to keep up with the thread from now on. Hopefully there's less spam in the future because missing 1 day so far seems to be catastrophic.

Top votes:

Koshi: Leaning slightly towards mafia. Biggest flag is his lack of cooperation with town as noted by others. He doesn't really argue, he just tries to pass off his viewpoints on the grounds that it should be obvious. I'm willing to wait on how he responds now that he's under pressure now and after he's promised to be more cooperative, however. He hasn't really contributed much other than defending himself. Also, I disagree with pretty much everything he says, but that doesn't really make him more or less mafia.

Exo: Leaning slightly towards town. He doesn't spam up the thread and has only posted the few times he's confident in his opinion. However, his last post that also contained his vote jumped to a conclusion really fast without much evidence. The way he said it leaves room for change, like my own vote, so I'm also not too suspicious of that. It feels more like he honestly doesn't know who to vote for because there's so much spam/finger pointing as a newer player.

Roundabout: No read. When he was attacking me earlier I thought he was doing that to everyone to create some chaos, but after looking through the filters he hasn't really done much past the early game. The point about him not contributing much is true, but not enough grounds to seem mafia yet; the game is early. The jump on me was a bit strange since I, personally, felt it was useless garbage spamming up the thread, but I'll ignore that. I would like to see him post more now that the "heat" is off of him.

strongandbig: Seems a little bit like mafia. Would be the easy pick to vote but I'd love to see him defend himself first because like my suspicions for every one else after 1 day, I'm not sure. If anything, a lynch wouldn't be so bad just because he's not productive/working w/ the town.

ritoky: Currently seems like mafia to me. He's on consistently throughout the day (his posts are very spread out), yet he doesn't really seem to contribute or address the game at all. He's just tunnel visioning Chromatically with nearly all his posts (who I personally have tagged as slightly town, so I naturally disagree with most of what he's saying).

Chairman Ray: slightly town. So far everything he posts is pretty logical. I disagree a bit with his leaps on roundabout, but he's defended himself and arguments pretty well, so I like that. He brings up his own arguments to add to town discussion as well, which is usually good if they make sense.

MZ: Other than furthering the VA lynchwagon (unless I missed some great post about it), not enough info, no read.


Anyway I made a post because I promised it, but as you can see my knowledge of the thread is not very thorough yet. You should view these as my initial thoughts. I feel strongest about ritoky out of the people I checked so I'll vote on him for now to get him to speak out.

I don't really know if I think this post on it's own is towny enough to let him survive day1. Since he already announced that this will be all we get from him today. I think it is quite weird how he adds reads on MZ and roundabout that say nothing while leaving most of the players out of this post. Why include them? Also a completely non-committal read on SnB.


just after the marv case. Seems like soft pushes away from a possible marv train on a buddy.... although if either flips wolf then I'd disregard it.

I'll check your filter on point 1 and point 3 makes sense for sure but its odd you brought up these two other guys right after. Again I'm throwing this in the 'weird' not 'wolfy' pile. However, you're definitely not getting village admittance.

@JaT who do you think looks the worst after the lynch?

Yes, or maybe I did this because marv asked me to? Ever thought of that?


Did he? I missed it I'll reread.... reading at work sucks when we're busy cause I lose the flow of things

Can you answer the 2nd part of it "Who do you think looks the worst after the lynch? And for bonus points who looks the best? (Can't say Marv for question b)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 13 2014 01:01 GMT
#2098
So who agrees I should be vigged?

Why or why not?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
June 13 2014 01:08 GMT
#2099
On June 13 2014 10:01 Alakaslam wrote:
So who agrees I should be vigged?

Why or why not?


I don't think you should be because shooting you only resolves you. Where as shooting others would resolve other people as well or at least give us more associative information. (I also would really like to be right on my first ever time reading you )
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
June 13 2014 01:27 GMT
#2100
Banks,

Personally I prefer vig on unreadable lurkers.

Allows us to use the lynch on people that are readable and produce associative information.

Players like Slam, Kush and others are solid choices for a vig.

~moc
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