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Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 00:56 GMT
#1102
I can at least agree with you on KotC.

Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 00:57 GMT
#1103
Also, why is Epishade bolded town for you? I CTRL+F'd your filter and I didn't see you type his name before a single time.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 01:04 GMT
#1109
I like calling him Cats.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 01:09 GMT
#1111
Banks, oh please.

I can feel the warm pockets calling for me.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 01:13 GMT
#1114
On June 25 2014 10:10 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 10:09 Teemursu wrote:
Banks, oh please.

I can feel the warm pockets calling for me.


No need to be in the pockets hop on my back I'll carry you to victory bbygirl. We might have to kill Nydus though


No, I agree. I think pressuring him right now is a great idea.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 01:18 GMT
#1118
Nydus hard defending someone is nothing new to me, but the fact that I expected to have him post a long wall of post that I am probably not going to have energy to put effort into, afterall, was a post about hard defending an obvious scum.

His defense mostly addressed a day 1 interaction and how MeatPudding "evolved" his reads once he got corrected after he gave false information.

I need him to give us content about others as well, like Epishade.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 01:27 GMT
#1122
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 23 2014 19:18 Teemursu wrote:
This post is ringing scum to me.

My overall read is that he it's scummy to accuse/vote him while everyone else is on the fence with him or leaning scum. The way and the amount of "WHY ME?! AND NOT TOLKIEN" I read from this makes me lean way scummier on him. It understand KotC and both Tolkien had this as one of their reasons to literally bury MM1. At this point I didn't really see as to why it would be so weird to push on KotC instead of Tolkien from MM1's perspective, since both are basically as valid for pushing to either get reads or try to lynch scum. If anyone can help me correct myself with a potential misread, please do!

I think in this post he comes off as extremely defensive and even more so aware of what people think of him, which sounds like a very scummy mindset to me.


On June 23 2014 19:22 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 19:18 Teemursu wrote:
This post is ringing scum to me.

My overall read is that he it's scummy to accuse/vote him while everyone else is on the fence with him or leaning scum. The way and the amount of "WHY ME?! AND NOT TOLKIEN" I read from this makes me lean way scummier on him. It understand KotC and both Tolkien had this as one of their reasons to literally bury MM1. At this point I didn't really see as to why it would be so weird to push on KotC instead of Tolkien from MM1's perspective, since both are basically as valid for pushing to either get reads or try to lynch scum. If anyone can help me correct myself with a potential misread, please do!

I think in this post he comes off as extremely defensive and even more so aware of what people think of him, which sounds like a very scummy mindset to me.


Sorry, I meant this post.

The post in what I addressed above also comes off as scummy to me mostly for the same reasons.



These two posts were the main accusations I had towards Cats during the night.

I think the biggest reason I thought he was scum was his association and similar play style to Tolkien's, who was my top scum at that moment.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 01:34 GMT
#1128
On June 25 2014 10:21 NydusHerMain wrote:
Sorry that I haven't been actively updating my reads >.<. A lot of my reads are kind of new from today since I read a lot of the things that I missed out on.

Teemu I thought at first that you were coming to really quick conclusions and I always figured that you were a player that waited a tad bit longer. I town read you for your forum activity, similar to how I used to read you in video, but realized that in a forum setting, you could probably change your playstyle so I threw you into null. I liked a lot of the logic that you threw out, I can give you examples if you want so I thought you were town again.

Epishade feels towny as fuck when I read through his filter. He's not instantly hopping on any "OMG I AGREE WITH YOU HE IS SCUMMY/TOWNY" bandwagons. He's trying to be objective and giving what I think are to be very strong reasons for his scum/town reads. For example, he also mentions how easily people townread me and Teemu, etc. and how he thinks that those people are scummy. For actual detailed reads that he gave, you can refer to his filter but if you disagree with me, I'll personally give specific examples.

Jabberwockzerg my read hasn't changed much on her.

Templar I thought you pushes were a little weird. I keep getting a towny vibe from you but your interaction with MP I didn't like at all.



Yeah, I'd actually like you to give examples and give your reason as to why you read both Epishade and myself town for those specific examples.

It's how I read you, and I like the fact that you're now being way more active like this, instead of preparing a bigger post for an hour or so.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 01:56 GMT
#1143
Nydus, do you not read the same adorable town tone from GlowingBear as I am?

Okay, so, supposed meatpudding is Mafia. What is he looking for with that question? Well, in my point of view, he is trying to know who is getting votes so him and his partners can set up a strategy as Mafia.


His whole blue thing during the night was a little awkward, but no reason to really drop him from a list or anything (not really saying you don't have him there because of that).
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 08:07 GMT
#1236
I'll just repeat what meatpudding himself said already. I like his read a lot.

On June 23 2014 12:16 meatpudding wrote:

Not the strongest case, all things considered.


If someone asks me to, I can refer to specific points, but what he has said so far is just a big pile of inconsistency.

Epishade, please accuse me instead of calling out my name every now and then.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 08:10 GMT
#1237
I'll make my case on meatpudding a bit later.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 11:08 GMT
#1243
I actually rescind about making a case on MeatPudding. I feel like I've gone against him the strongest, and I've had multiple posts where I've discussed with him/haven't voted on him.

If people aren't convinced by my push on him, then I'm going to divert my attention to someone else. We obviously haven't hit on mafia yet and there still are others alive who town would rather lynch.

I think Nydus actually might be mafia. His read on Epishade is very weak. I asked him to provide examples on Epishade and give reasoning on those examples (yes, in plural). So far the reason Nydus has called him top town is that he's been "objective" and that Epishade posts a wishy washy list of conditional scum/flip logic that doesn't really mean anything.

Only because people have pushed on someone, and that person flips as either alignment, doesn't clear or put people who actively pushed that person under suspicion. I just played a video mafia game where a VT pushed a ML on Day 1 and I caught two of the three mafia by looking at how they supported the person who was the most active pusher.

Nydus should be a way better player and recognise to that Epishade's contribution today does in fact NOT put him as "top town" for his "objectiveness".

This takes me to a second possible mafia, Epishade.

I don't know if I left out anybody in here, as Teemursu's filter is 9 pages...and there is a whole lot to read not just in his filter, but everywhere. Goddammit, this is a mini-mafia, why are there already 60+ pages by day 2?


I think I'm leaning more toward Teemursu or meatpudding right now, but idk exactly. meatpudding hasn't posted more than once after Token was shot, so I don't know what his current thoughts are right now. I'd rather make a vote when he posts I think.


Firstly, he wants to vote between two people who have gone the hardest against each other (ignoring MM1 vs. Tolkien and Cats).

He says he doesn't have a clear preference, then he says he wants to vote on me.

He seems to understand I post a lot, he doesn't refer to anything specific that I've posted about.

Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 11:10 GMT
#1245
So far I'm happy to keep my vote on the main wagon, but I will seriously consider voting on either Nydus or Epishade today as well.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 11:13 GMT
#1246
Banks is a town lean.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 11:33 GMT
#1251
I'm being frustrated with my case on MeatPudding and I want to be more productive for town.

I don't care that you think I'm copying you, when I'm trying to play better.

How about you talk with me about my post on Epishade/Nydus instead of focusing on your suspicion of me trying to "pocket" you and ACTUALLY catch scum?
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 11:34 GMT
#1252
Going through your filter quickly, I see that you have Epishade as towny.

Could you explain your read on him?
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 11:41 GMT
#1253
On June 25 2014 19:57 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 19:21 Hobbitus wrote:
Actually, can anyone else who finds teemu suspicious make a case on him? I'll do it myself if I have time but I just don't know if I will today :/


I hope that anyone who find teemu suspicious would actually read teemu's n1 'spam'. I'm willing to bet that most of you did not read it yet, thus the suspicions.
He replied to most suspicions about him and yet posted some crucial questions that I would like to see answered, such as questions for you, hobbitus, on the 4 options that MM was.


I read this like I see light at the end of the tunnel.


Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 11:44 GMT
#1254
I'm off for a few hours.

When I come back, I expect a real case on myself from Epishade and/or Hobbitus, so we can finally talk about the content and reads I've worked with.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 14:47 GMT
#1265
MeatPudding, you thinking that I have been pressuring you because you OMGUSed back at me just shows how much lack of attention you have.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 25 2014 15:33 GMT
#1268
We haven't hit on mafia, as in, a mafia is not dead yet. I said I would be making a bigger case on MeatPudding, but I'm taking that back.

I am not listing MeatPudding as town..

I'm not rescinding my vote off from him. He's still "the main wagon" and I'm still happy to lynch him today.

Also see N1 interactions to find some really scummy logic he said. I'm not sure why you digged part of the stuff I've said, though (also, there is still more).
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