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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 03:27 GMT
#1436
On June 26 2014 12:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Let's not lynch mtamburini today. He's been posting for about an hour, hardly enough time to get a good read on him and if we lynch some random green out of nowhere based on stuff posted 2 hours before flip i'm going to be really pissed off.


Please, listen to this man. We need more time to evaluate mtamburini.
She actually brought a nice scenario on Tolkien's death right now.

Lynch the no-contributors. I've already said why.

We need more time to evaluate mtamburini's alignment
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 03:49 GMT
#1459
On June 26 2014 12:45 Teemursu wrote:
I have a feeling that jabber might get modkilled. Templar and Bear maybe put your votes somewhere else? Idk.


Teemu, I would, but Nydus was going to be my second target, so I rather stick to jabb in case he appears.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 03:53 GMT
#1465
If he doesn't, my first and second targets will be dead, so, w/e XD

If he does, there is a small chance I'd still can get him killed. There what I meant
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 04:17 GMT
#1497
Well, fellow townies. I guess we suck.
Gonna sleep.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 12:17 GMT
#1529
On June 26 2014 20:26 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2014 20:03 mtamburini wrote:
On June 26 2014 13:57 meatpudding wrote:
On June 26 2014 12:05 NydusHerMain wrote:
My town reads are the people that are up for bandwagons aside from me ._. I'm going to ##Vote: mtamburini because he's actually being visibly scummy


On June 26 2014 11:16 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm on a mobile so it will be hard to quote two posts.

But I was voting on meatpudding because of his, IMO, weak reasoning when he voted on Haru and not on Kotc, whom I held as scum. It was like meatpudding was trying to protect his scum partner. That was my read at the moment.

After, the reason I've revealed in this post of mine:


On June 24 2014 01:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Teemu

On meatpudding:

" IF you had the choice to narrow voting to two candidates, would you choose me and Cats, or me and Tolkien?"

This is odd.
And then, this was his answer to Teemu

"I'm interested in your opinions on Cats and Tolkien because I think further investigation on those two is warranted. I'm leaning to think one of them is mafia. I wanted your opinion now so I can get a read on how you place your vote. But as you said, things will change when day starts so I'm not sure how well you can be held to such an early call."
Okay, so, supposed meatpudding is Mafia. What is he looking for with that question? Well, in my point of view, he is trying to know who is getting votes so him and his partners can set up a strategy as Mafia.
If you have a misread on Tolkien, in example, it would be a good opportunity to Mafia to bandwagon him, saving meatpudding and Kotc (in case Kotc is mafia). That is the information he would pursue with that question, if meatpudding is scum.
If he is town and is just gathering information... well... I don't think he would ask in such way... it would be something like "could you give me your reads on Tolkien and Cats?"
I know this is not the strongest read, but this theory gets stronger with meatpudding's next post, putting Tolkien as scum and Cats as on the fence:
On June 23 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
On June 23 2014 21:41 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:26 The_Templar wrote:
On June 23 2014 12:16 meatpudding wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Teemu

On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Way to jump to conclusions. Anyway I pointed this out before that I was introducing myself and responding to Templar.

On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Teemu was really quick to start pushing on me at the start and yet 20 mins later making town lean calls on Templar.

On June 21 2014 22:59 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 22:53 The_Templar wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:57 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:48 HaruRH wrote:
On June 21 2014 20:41 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Hello people, i have a stupid username.

I've been playing mafia on OMGUS (TL's evil twin that's locked in the basement and fed a bucket of fish heads every night) since last october. Between then and now i was somehow voted season 2 best town so if my play is terrible it's pretty much a certainty that i'm scum.


Yea your scum play is horrible, to the extent of nearly being modkilled. I hope you aren't going to afk :/

I should be more active this game because i actually know how to play town. I was quiet in my last game because i have no idea what i'm doing as scum.

How was i nearly modkilled in that game?


How DO you play town? Let's talk!

Do you read into tone perhaps? Who do you like/dislike?

There's this guy named Teemursu who's taking things really seriously at the beginning of day 1.

In all seriousness, no reads for me yet as we've just introduced each other. Meatpudding's joke seemed a bit… random, (trying to get things friendly between everyone perhaps?) but I don't think it really means anything.


Yeah, I'm probably the most serious person you'll meet on this forum.

I actually kinda like this read. Feels like it's coming from a towny perspective. We -are- all new here and some are playing for the first time, and your read has that ring to it.





On June 21 2014 23:09 Teemursu wrote:
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On June 21 2014 23:04 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?


Weird that you say that before meatpudding even reacts?

But I'm with Templar, too early for me to get any reads.


Might've been too early, agreed. I'm probably too used to video mafia's speed. I did get a towny vibe from Templar, though, so it's not like I came out empty-handed.


To me, Teemu's willingness to make these reads based on one or two posts seems hasty and irrational. I (semi-seriously) pointed out that Teemu and Templar are likely a scum team trying to make false headway. (Hence my reading of Templar's future posts from that perspective.)

On June 21 2014 23:17 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 22:51 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:47 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 22:46 Teemursu wrote:
On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.

I don't like this.

What don't you like about it?

The joke felt forced. Admitting to lurking and not at least saying you'll have more reads later on in the day rings scummy to me.

Anyway, I just wanted to ping someone out. Do you have any early reads?

It's too early for me to have any reads. Seeing as this is Meatpudding's first game i don't think his post was alignment indicative but if he doesn't contribute anything he'll be a good lynch regardless of his alignment.


On June 21 2014 23:52 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2014 23:31 meatpudding wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:19 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 21 2014 23:09 meatpudding wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 21 2014 20:41 The_Templar wrote:
Hi, I'm The_Templar. I'm from the sc2 section. I am a mapmaker and I live report sometimes.
I play a lot of sc2 mafia (the mod) but it's filled with idiots and trolls so I decided I wanted a challenge here. I played a game in TL+ where I was a mafia goon but I don't think anyone else here has TL+ to compare it so w/e.
I know Epishade and MM1 because they are pretty good at blogs, as well as meatpudding (not that well though).
My name story is that I wanted a 'normal' name when I was 13 so I decided to pick a unit, but I didn't want to pick just one so I decided to be ambiguous with templar.
I… am not a star trek fan, but I'll bear the flavor as if it's normal flavor.

Good luck everyone!


Since you're wondering, it was a direct response to this post. I usually browse custom maps but don't often post there.

What was a direct response to that post?


This post was a response to Templar:

On June 21 2014 21:56 meatpudding wrote:
Yeah I don't post that much. I lurk more than I post. Maybe I should be called The_Lurker.


But I was just describing my general forum attitude. Since I signed up to play I intend to contribute of course.

Teemu was quick to call me out though, but he backed up Templar straight away. Two scum trying to blend in with town?

TheKingOfCats tries to lynch me as well, but I think he's town trying to prod me if I'm mafia.


So I didn't specifically call you out. Apparently I got a reaction anyway, which is good, considering I just said I only pinged you out.

I don't feel like TheKingOfCats is trying to lynch you at all, and I'm not sure how I should read your defensiveness about that (new player/mafia being pushed). He did give a fence read on you though. Like, It's obvious that we should lynch people who don't contribute at all. He's someone I'm going to keep my eye on.


Teemu trying to cover his tracks? Who was the first to suggest I should be lynched? - Teemu. I think that he plays too well to make mistakes like this. The only thing that could excuse him is because I'm a new player, his reads are wrong because I'm not playing the normal way.

On June 21 2014 19:36 Teemursu wrote:
Hey guys, I'm here to stomp mafia.

Lynch my day 1 scum reads, and we're all good.

I'm in the middle of some video mafia. Hope some discussion is on the way once I come back.

My name (Teemu) comes from my mum & dad.



On June 22 2014 12:46 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 08:20 The_Templar wrote:
On June 22 2014 08:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
There really isn't much to say right now.

All I can say is that Teemursu is my only solid read for me atm (as town). While Nydus has played with him before and says this behavior is alignment-null, he's instigating the scumhunting that town sorely needs early D1. As a result, I would peg him as town (or at least, a non-viable D1 lynch).

That being said, I don't agree with any of the early lynch candidates thus far (as in, I don't have a strong enough read on any of them currently), and would rather lynch a lurker at this point in time. That includes scott, because his post was pretty much a non-response.


Of Cats or meatpudding, if I had to choose a D1 lynch atm, I'd vote meatpudding solely based on thread contribution.


-Teemu agrees with me and "thinks I'm town", which I always appreciate, but he "thinks I'm town". He could be a town, or a mafia trying to make both of us or just me look mafia. Again, completely ambiguous and I'm not sure.

My general impression of mafia players in my limited experience is that they work to distance themselves as much as possible. I personally do not read too much into it atm; without a flip it's speculation.

Personally, I don't know about Teemu, partly because I don't know about video mafia. I'm going to research this further. Scum-hunting isn't essential on day 1; I think it's more of a developing point in the game but that's just my two cents.

I don't like Scott's posts very much.


It's where I am the strongest in my town play.

Anyway, Cats is finally asking some better questions, so I am moving my focus on ## VOTE Meatpudding

I'm not sure about the Scott bandwagon, but pressuring him is not a bad idea.


Teemu would have us believe that his D1 scum reads are infallible. So far he has only made one strong call to mafia (guess who) which seems suspicious to me. He has basically stopped pressuring now that he has made up his mind, and that I have helped convince half of town that I may be scum anyway. Easy lynch for Teemu.

On June 22 2014 21:09 Teemursu wrote:
Meatpudding, I don't even know who Templar is..?

I get a lot of reads based on people's interaction with me (how they accuse me, etc), and so far yours has been very poor. You keep throwing scum at me without giving any explanation or backing up. Which of my reads have been off and how? Do you disagree with some or do you disagree with my reasons for my reads?

Honestly, I'm only trying to give you a chance to project town here by talking about reads, but you keep failing at it, which is making you my top scum read.

Speaking of throwing scum, people have been throwing scum at Scott, and I really wish he didn't become unmotivated as town because mafia pushed on him. >_>



Not the strongest case, all things considered.

Cool, but can you please offer your insight on you vs MM? Teemu isn't quite relevant right now I think.


Yes, I know. I also want to write up my thoughts on you and Cats. I'm keeping up with the thread but I don't have a read on MM. Other than what Tolkien said about lurkers being scum, I don't know. I have the net 30mins free but only so much I can type. I'm basically voting to save myself and help town.

Since you didn't do anything about you and MM, can I see these thoughts or are you going to do nothing this night?


I was going through KotC's posts when the lynch was taking place. I kind of couldn't make up my mind, even after MM flipped.

I was not happy to vote for MM, because the case against him didn't convince me completely. His own reactions caused a lot of suspicion though. I can't call Cats or Tolkien scum based on that alone.

Right now my thoughts are
Teemu - potential scum
Tolkien - potential scum
Cats - fence
Templar - town



Alright, now on Kotc:

On June 23 2014 10:15 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 09:40 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 23 2014 09:20 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:49 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 23 2014 08:28 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Ok can everyone that thinks i'm scum please state why because the only reasons i'm seeing are that i haven't been contributing much. The fact that i said that i would be giving considerably less fucks that usual about this game before it started seems to have been ignored plus if anyone actually bothered to skim the filter from the other game i posted they would see that i, as town, did precisely fuck all during the first half of D1. So if you have any other reasons to think i'm scummy please tell me. I know none of you know my meta but i know that i don't generally do a lot the first half of D1 as either alignment so saying i'm scummy for it is kind of annoying me.


Whoa there, bucko. If you don't give reads, regardless of your meta, you are going to look suspicious. Instead of getting pissy that people are (quite reasonably) suspicious of you, why don't you give us some reads? Other than on MM, you haven't done so, and I suspect the only reason you did so for him was so you had someone to vote on. THAT seems scummy to me.

I don't make long posts where i list everyone that's playing and say if i think they're slightly X or slightly Y because of Z. It's just not the way i play. I pick out things that i think need addressing and run with them. I push my strongest scumreads and only point out why i think people are town if they're looking like they might get lynched. Doing anything else seems like a waste of time to me.

As an aside if you ignore your scumread on me (just humour me, assume i'm town for the time being) what do you think of my points against MysteryMeat?


That's fine, not everyone's play style needs to be the same, and yes, it is super time consuming But it's weird to not post any reads until close to the deadline, and then to only post one. Even two would be much better, so I know you aren't scum keeping your options open. So you think MM is mafia, who is your second in line? How is not pressuring anyone other than your scummiest scum beneficial to the town? We both know that it's most likely that meatpudding will be lynched tonight, and if we don't see MM flip, we really have no information on you at all. Do you see where I'm coming from?

If you are town, I agree that MM does seem a little scummy, thus my on the fence read. His main post seems really careless, picking out really trivial stuff to base his reads off of, just like he's not putting in a lot of effort. Bad town or mafia? Dunno. As for his attack on you specifically, I think it was as fairly baseless as his reads on everyone else. I don't know if that's enough to vote him though.

Pressuring your strongest scumread as much as possible will make them post more to defend themselves thus allowing you to read their thought processes and see if they make sense. They'll either dig themselves into a deeper hole by being inconsistent or dig themselves out of it by posting things that logically follow on from each other from a townie prospective, potentially nullifying a scumread or turning it into a townread and allowing you to move on to the other scummy people on your list. It's all about being as sure as possible that your read is correct. As for a second in line well i'd be happy to see meatpudding go because it would either confirm a lot of town or give me the chance to pick apart the reasons people gave for voting him. For the purpose of gathering information on other players his lynch is certainly the best.


I don't know what to think of this. He is right if meatpudding flips green. But if meatpudding flips red... I think Kotc is the next to me lynched.
And if only Kotc is red and knows meatpudding will flip green, this is his chance to blend in town. Difficult do analyze.

Ok, I'll do more later, including Haru's request. I tried to read the whole thread but it is INSANE to keep up all the information. My head it hurting a lot LOL


@meatpudding I need to filter dive him, but I'm still on the fence. But as I said, as it is getting really confused. Somehow I believe we are in a Town VS Town perspective and Mafia is just sitting, lurking, watching us killing ourselves. I also beige that that is why Tolkien died, he was going after the non-contributors. I'm going to do that now, so If Nidus does not start contributing more, he will be my next target.



On June 26 2014 12:48 Teemursu wrote:
On June 26 2014 12:47 The_Templar wrote:
On June 26 2014 12:45 Teemursu wrote:
I have a feeling that jabber might get modkilled. Templar and Bear maybe put your votes somewhere else? Idk.

I don't know who else I'd vote for, I haven't kept up very well and I'm off in 13ish minutes.
I'm only sticking around just in case something spectacular happens, like mtam posts more dancing ladies


I think Epishade, Nydus or MeatPudding are great votes.


I'm not sure if mafia votes were required at all in that result. This may clear Epi and confirm him as town. I don't read too much into KotC's push on Nydus because Nydus was defending himself poorly.


Explain how epi is clear and what you think of me.


Let's start with the most obvious statement. Mafia votes were distributed between Nydus, Epi and Jabber.

Nydus and Epishade were the two main wagons. Voting for Jabber is basically vote hiding because he left the thread and didn't give any defence for himself.

Because it took only 3 votes, it could have gone either way. Mafia made no attempt to push on Nydus or save Epi. Either lynch would have been fine, therefore Epi is town.

The WIFOM of that, is that mafia waited last minute to make sure Epi had votes, but not enough for a lynch (unlikely).


I think you haven't made any meaningful contribution so far. The only thing that's slightly scummy is that you arrived into the tread so close to EOD. I don't think we could have avoided a mislynch D2 so we'll just have to accept what happened and evaluate over again.


The bolded part actually reflects what I said before of tehpoofter coming by the EoD trying to manage the route of votes. And he did ask for a wagon split. With split votes, mafia can work better on a mislynch.
Moreover, voting on Jabb is not vote hiding. As you can see, he wasn't mod killed after all.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 16:19 GMT
#1546
I'm actually just waiting to see if this useless discussion can bring something useful.
I've been reading too many filters and I'm getting exhausted right now, so I might continue later.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 18:19 GMT
#1558
Teemu, now that Nydus has flipped green, how do you read Epishade?
Actually, what's your read on tambourine and tehpoofter?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 18:37 GMT
#1567
On June 27 2014 03:32 Teemursu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Teemu, now that Nydus has flipped green, how do you read Epishade?
Actually, what's your read on tambourine and tehpoofter?


I still think Epishade is scum. I think Nydus really just came up with some read to appear more towny, since he didn't really have the attention spam for the game, as he said himself.

I can never read Tambo, but what he's doing right now is his own way of pressuring people, I think. Haru's been one of my stronger town reads and he's reacting kind of poorly to the pressure, but it really could be the other way around as well.

Banks (tehpoofter) I have as null. He hasn't really posted as much analysis/reads yet (he's a very good player), but I -really- appreciate that he's trying to get people voting and posting lists.


I'm glad I'm not the only one.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 18:46 GMT
#1573
On June 27 2014 03:38 Teemursu wrote:
What do you think that means for their alignments, then?


Nothing much. I actually like the fact that tambourine came with an aggressive tone, although he focused it in a wrong way. Some of his posts are dumb and I get what Haru is doing. But I think he is overreacting.

This makes me put both on the fence. Tambourine because I don't have enough posts to analyse him completely but I don't think mafia would react to Nydus editing the way he reacted. Haru, on the other way, was looking towny but now I'm putting him on the fence because he is kind of strangely overreacting...
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 18:50 GMT
#1575
On June 27 2014 03:48 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:46 Hobbitus wrote:
This whole argument is stupid, it has nothing to do with finding scum or town. It's about Tambourini being annoying and Haru being annoyed. We should move on to something else. The two of you, if you're town, BREAK IT UP. We're getting our asses kicked


Someone actually understands me.

Even if we had to move to something else, we need to think about epi's wagon and why didn't it turn into a lynch over nydus.


Why do you think epi would be a better lynch than Nydus?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 19:09 GMT
#1583
On June 27 2014 04:06 mtamburini wrote:
It was never a troll vote I've made it clear. He did not respond to me at all after my accusations of him being scum for editing and never gave a read while he was at his computer playing another game. He did nothing to defend him self to my pressure and attacks.

You say you defended him and quoted some bs stuff which doesn't prove you defended him.

Defending someone goes along the lines of

I think x is town because
1
2
3



Your need to keep a useless discussion with Haru is getting me another read on you.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 20:25 GMT
#1591
On June 27 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
So temp and glowing bear. Why did you both change your votes to jabber?


I was reading meatpudding as scum but as I dived into his filters it started to sound like poor town playing. When diving through other filters, I've realised everybody was making some kind of sense and, therefore, we should be in a TvT situation where scum were just lurking watching us killing ourselves.
By this time, jabb started avoiding answering questions, just pointing out that he wasn't a girl (filter dive him and judge yourself if he wasn't behaving in a strange way)

I then decided to go against lurkers because of this. I started with Haru, but more to pressure, because I had a town read on him. Jabb strange behaviour made me go against him. Nydus was my second target because of the lurking, so there was no need to protect him.

Probably a bad decision. My problem is... It's a newbie game and people are contradicting themselves like hell. We had a scumread on both MM1 and Tolkien at the time, and both flipped green. Now Nydus.
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GlowingBear
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Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 20:29 GMT
#1592
Btw Haru wasn't lurking, he was sleeping lol
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GlowingBear
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June 26 2014 20:58 GMT
#1597
On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd?


Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all...
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GlowingBear
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Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 21:09 GMT
#1599
On June 27 2014 06:03 mtamburini wrote:
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On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd?


Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all...


Sorry if I missed it in earlier post but I know you said you switched because he was lurking but do you think meat was still scum at that time or did he become town. And what's your current read on meat now


I still believe he is scum because of his contradictions and his passivity (? Is this a word?), but at the moment I considered he could be just a bad town and that we were in a Town VS Town scenario in which mafia was comfortably sitting and watching us killing ourselves. I thought that way after realising our scumreads on Tolkien and MysteryMeat1 were based mostly on contradictions and that they flipped green
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 21:22 GMT
#1603
I have already answered that question less than 10 minutes ago:

On June 27 2014 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 27 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
So temp and glowing bear. Why did you both change your votes to jabber?


I was reading meatpudding as scum but as I dived into his filters it started to sound like poor town playing. When diving through other filters, I've realised everybody was making some kind of sense and, therefore, we should be in a TvT situation where scum were just lurking watching us killing ourselves.
By this time, jabb started avoiding answering questions, just pointing out that he wasn't a girl (filter dive him and judge yourself if he wasn't behaving in a strange way)

I then decided to go against lurkers because of this. I started with Haru, but more to pressure, because I had a town read on him. Jabb strange behaviour made me go against him. Nydus was my second target because of the lurking, so there was no need to protect him.

Probably a bad decision. My problem is... It's a newbie game and people are contradicting themselves like hell. We had a scumread on both MM1 and Tolkien at the time, and both flipped green. Now Nydus.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 21:39 GMT
#1609
On June 27 2014 06:35 mtamburini wrote:
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On June 27 2014 06:22 GlowingBear wrote:
I have already answered that question less than 10 minutes ago:

On June 27 2014 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 27 2014 05:06 mtamburini wrote:
So temp and glowing bear. Why did you both change your votes to jabber?


I was reading meatpudding as scum but as I dived into his filters it started to sound like poor town playing. When diving through other filters, I've realised everybody was making some kind of sense and, therefore, we should be in a TvT situation where scum were just lurking watching us killing ourselves.
By this time, jabb started avoiding answering questions, just pointing out that he wasn't a girl (filter dive him and judge yourself if he wasn't behaving in a strange way)

I then decided to go against lurkers because of this. I started with Haru, but more to pressure, because I had a town read on him. Jabb strange behaviour made me go against him. Nydus was my second target because of the lurking, so there was no need to protect him.

Probably a bad decision. My problem is... It's a newbie game and people are contradicting themselves like hell. We had a scumread on both MM1 and Tolkien at the time, and both flipped green. Now Nydus.


Why leave your vote on someone who is prob going to get modkilled and push on other scum reads?


I've also answered that, but, again:

My second target was Nydus for being lurking and acting somewhat strangely. He was already going to be lynched, so I would rather stick my vote on jabb and try to get him killed in case he would get back right before the deadline and voting, or in case the hosts decide not to modkill him.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 21:43 GMT
#1611
On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd?


Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all...


I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 22:00 GMT
#1613
On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd?


Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all...


I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere


But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died.


I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
June 26 2014 22:46 GMT
#1616
On June 27 2014 07:38 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 27 2014 06:54 mtamburini wrote:
On June 27 2014 06:43 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 27 2014 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 27 2014 05:49 mtamburini wrote:
Do you think there was a better chance of jabber getting lynched over your original target meatpudd?


Yes. You can see that Nydus was lynched with 3 votes. Jabb got 2. I think the the only reason why jabb wasn't killed was because of this feeling that he would be modkilled anyway, so nobody would change their votes. As my second target would be Nydus, it was ok to me. But I thought on the possibility that he could come and vote on the last moment. He wasn't modkilled after all...


I have no problem answering again, I'm just stating that I've already answered somewhere


But the vote was so close why not ensure his lynch? Anyone who voted for him could've flipped to someone else with 2 votes and neither of the people on your scum list would've died.


I guess you have a point here. It never crossed my mind. But a lynch on Epishade wouldn't bother me, I have a slight scumread on him. I'm actually going to pressure epi and meat d3.


Why not pressure them now?


Not useful while at night, gotta use some voting.
More than that, I'm waiting night consequences to gather enough information to start pressuring. I'd better try to understand the reasons behind the mislynch and filter dive people first and I'm using night for that
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