Newbie Mini Mafia LVI - Page 2

Cats is asking a lot of questions, which he included in his little how to guide to play town. I also like how he hasn't jumped on a wagon.

yeah, pudding's a townlean
I'd be most comfortable with a tolkien vote, but I want him to read my post about scott and react to it, defend his wagon.
I'll agree with a fence on KittyCats, he's asking questions, but I'm noticing a lack of content.

On June 23 2014 04:37 HaruRH wrote:


Yes I do have many questions.

1) What would you say about the contradictions mentioned in meatpudding's reads?

In your read, you said that



Can you give me some specific contradictions?

2)Which part of his reads (meatpudding's) do you agree with?



And on Templar giving lots of information, which is most likely good.

3) Which part(s) of my read did you not agree with?



The first part is the part you retracted, I believe? If so, no problem there. Do you still suspect Tolkien bc he changed his target from meatpudding to scott? I thought his argument there was reasonable, it just makes me a little nervous that you saw it as SUPER scummy

4) Why is Jabber scumread for not substantiating his reads, but not others like scott?

On June 23 2014 04:48 The_Templar wrote:
Hobbitus, I would like to hear more about your opinion on Nydus if that's ok.

On June 22 2014 01:11 NydusHerMain wrote:


Reaction testing,
he does this in video,
neither town nor scum

On June 23 2014 05:35 HaruRH wrote:
Btw, question 1 and 3 were meant for your thoughts my meatpudding read.

On June 23 2014 06:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
*final appended note, I'm unsure about Teemu now. A change from my solid town read earlier, though I think I need to reread his filter a couple more times.

On June 23 2014 08:28 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:
Ok can everyone that thinks i'm scum please state why because the only reasons i'm seeing are that i haven't been contributing much. The fact that i said that i would be giving considerably less fucks that usual about this game before it started seems to have been ignored plus if anyone actually bothered to skim the filter from the other game i posted they would see that i, as town, did precisely fuck all during the first half of D1. So if you have any other reasons to think i'm scummy please tell me. I know none of you know my meta but i know that i don't generally do a lot the first half of D1 as either alignment so saying i'm scummy for it is kind of annoying me.

On June 23 2014 09:20 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:

I don't make long posts where i list everyone that's playing and say if i think they're slightly X or slightly Y because of Z. It's just not the way i play. I pick out things that i think need addressing and run with them. I push my strongest scumreads and only point out why i think people are town if they're looking like they might get lynched. Doing anything else seems like a waste of time to me.

As an aside if you ignore your scumread on me (just humour me, assume i'm town for the time being) what do you think of my points against MysteryMeat?

On June 23 2014 10:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:
As I said, it's a tough choice. You have to pick which meat you want.

I noted my decision-making process here. The absurd inconsistency is just FAR too big of a warning bell for me.

meatpudding is acceptable I think as well, but I can plausibly think of him far more as just a bad town, what with blatant OMGUSing and ridiculous plays like voting Haru.

MysteryMeat's contribution is him trying to pose as normal town when he hasn't been posting much. My (limited) experience with lurker scum is that they hide until the second half of Day 1 before posting a "reads" list, and giving a vote in the hopes it'll let them off the hook for any suspicion, and voting for a possible bandwagon based on the general feelings in the thread. Let's be real here, NO ONE in this thread thought I was scum until GlowingBear (I believe Haru had already removed his vote at the time), so he figured it'd be best to continue the trend. Cats a safe vote. A bandwagon on meatpudding, but Cats is under suspicion so his vote won't be heavily scruitinized D2 if meatpudding turns up green.

It's just impossible for him not to even MENTION that I pushed for a lynch on a player for being deadweight and being FINE with a mislynch if that happens, if that's why he's so bent on voting Cats. It's just ridiculously impossible, like holy shit.

On June 23 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Going to have to agree with Cats again: as I also noted in my large wall-o-text, I'd be fine with meatpudding because he'd finally clear things up about Teemu and the others who voted on him early. And he's probably useless to town.

Let's agree to consolidate on EITHER meatpudding or MysteryMeat1, until we hear something back, alright? No stray votes anywhere else, let's do our best not to let mafia influence the voting.

On June 23 2014 10:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:
As I said, it's a tough choice. You have to pick which meat you want.

On June 23 2014 10:35 jabberwockzerg wrote:

Most of the time, I'm posting to inform everyone when I change my mind about stuff, I don't really see the point of posting "I still think the same thing I thought before" again and again
is there anyone specific you want me to elaborate on?

On June 23 2014 10:15 TheKingOfTheCats wrote:

Pressuring your strongest scumread as much as possible will make them post more to defend themselves thus allowing you to read their thought processes and see if they make sense. They'll either dig themselves into a deeper hole by being inconsistent or dig themselves out of it by posting things that logically follow on from each other from a townie prospective, potentially nullifying a scumread or turning it into a townread and allowing you to move on to the other scummy people on your list. It's all about being as sure as possible that your read is correct. As for a second in line well i'd be happy to see meatpudding go because it would either confirm a lot of town or give me the chance to pick apart the reasons people gave for voting him. For the purpose of gathering information on other players his lynch is certainly the best.

On June 23 2014 10:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:

The general advice I've gotten is that town should generally aim to consolidate voting onto a few bandwagons. Having votes everywhere gives mafia the power of a unified voting block. The more disparate the voting, the easier it is for mafia to hide their influence on the actual votes. If everyone consolidates, they have nowhere to hide.

Vote for who you think is the most scummy, but who else is an option besides the meats for you? While I very much dislike jabber's schizophrenic opinions, voting for jabber gets us nothing, in my opinion, at this stage. meatpudding gives us insight onto the people who started the vote and push onto him, and I would say taht MysteryMeats' lynch will give you insight as to Cats' (and my own).

If you can compile a case, do it already: we're running out of time.