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Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 26 2014 04:11 GMT
#1493
On June 26 2014 13:10 mtamburini wrote:
Errr Teemu is probably town , he pulled off Nydus at the end of day to go on someone else.


What are your reads on MeatPudding and Epishade?
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 26 2014 04:18 GMT
#1498
Off to work. I'll be back ITT in about 2-3 hours earliest.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 26 2014 18:03 GMT
#1555
I can read Nydus really well and I was pretty sure he just made up his town read on Epishade (regardless of alignment). That's why I was reading him scummy. I just wasn't sure if he made that because he didn't have the energy/time to put into the game or if that was because he was mafia. That's why I wanted to rather vote on Epishade.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 26 2014 18:26 GMT
#1564
On June 27 2014 03:09 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:03 Teemursu wrote:
I can read Nydus really well and I was pretty sure he just made up his town read on Epishade (regardless of alignment). That's why I was reading him scummy. I just wasn't sure if he made that because he didn't have the energy/time to put into the game or if that was because he was mafia. That's why I wanted to rather vote on Epishade.


Just coming home from work teemu? Have you read the conversation of the night phase?


I've been just sitting in a hangout zoom the whole day. I've been kinda tired the whole day so I haven't had the energy to read filters or anything. I skimmed through the night phase but nothing much seems to have happened. I can't really read into the fight that you two are having.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 26 2014 18:32 GMT
#1565
On June 27 2014 03:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Teemu, now that Nydus has flipped green, how do you read Epishade?
Actually, what's your read on tambourine and tehpoofter?


I still think Epishade is scum. I think Nydus really just came up with some read to appear more towny, since he didn't really have the attention spam for the game, as he said himself.

I can never read Tambo, but what he's doing right now is his own way of pressuring people, I think. Haru's been one of my stronger town reads and he's reacting kind of poorly to the pressure, but it really could be the other way around as well.

Banks (tehpoofter) I have as null. He hasn't really posted as much analysis/reads yet (he's a very good player), but I -really- appreciate that he's trying to get people voting and posting lists.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 26 2014 18:38 GMT
#1568
What do you think that means for their alignments, then?
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 26 2014 18:41 GMT
#1569
On June 27 2014 03:38 Teemursu wrote:
What do you think that means for their alignments, then?


In terms of their*
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 26 2014 18:51 GMT
#1576
On June 27 2014 03:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 03:38 Teemursu wrote:
What do you think that means for their alignments, then?


Nothing much. I actually like the fact that tambourine came with an aggressive tone, although he focused it in a wrong way. Some of his posts are dumb and I get what Haru is doing. But I think he is overreacting.

This makes me put both on the fence. Tambourine because I don't have enough posts to analyse him completely but I don't think mafia would react to Nydus editing the way he reacted. Haru, on the other way, was looking towny but now I'm putting him on the fence because he is kind of strangely overreacting...


Idk, I think him overreacting is a little towny if anything, rather than scummy. I'm imagining scum Haru being way more restrictive about the emotion he lets out. Feels kinda TvT, imo.

Anyways, going to take a nap for about an hour before some video mafia starts. I'll be keeping an eye on the thread, but not very actively.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 27 2014 02:13 GMT
#1654
I'm awake. Ask questions etc.

Also, Hobbitus, I gave my quick reads on Templar's vote switching, could you give your opinion on them?. They're somewhere in n1 where I made the big amount of posts about day d1 analysis.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 27 2014 02:19 GMT
#1655
MeatPudding: I'm still reading KotC as town. Just because he voted on Nydus doesn't make him scum. Nydus was still a decent vote and I've expressed my opinion about that.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:
Day 2 - Final Vote Count


meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBear
NydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburini
GlowingBear (0): NydusHerMain
Teemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade
Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus
HaruRH (0): GlowingBear
Jabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear
mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMain

Not voting (1): Jabberwockzerg



NydusHerMain was lynched with 3 votes.



Since the votes were so spread out, I really can't speculate where the mafia voted. I'm going off on my reads so I'm pressuring MeatPudding and Epishade tomorrow.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 27 2014 03:08 GMT
#1665
On June 27 2014 11:41 Hobbitus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 11:13 Teemursu wrote:
I'm awake. Ask questions etc.

Also, Hobbitus, I gave my quick reads on Templar's vote switching, could you give your opinion on them?. They're somewhere in n1 where I made the big amount of posts about day d1 analysis.


Can you find it for me? I'm still reading in the mid sixties, which I missed completely.

I'll find it a bit later, starting video mafia currently.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 27 2014 22:52 GMT
#1745
I'm here only to place my vote for now. I'll be rereading once I wake up tomorrow. I have -zero- energy for that now.

## Vote: MeatPudding

Can we just finally lynch you, please?
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 28 2014 14:21 GMT
#1759
On June 27 2014 11:44 meatpudding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 20:57 Teemursu wrote:
TOWN:
HaruRH

NydusHerMain
LEANING TOWN:
Jabber
Templar

Hobbitus
GlowingBear

NULL:
Solar424
BlondeMocha
Scott31337

FENCE:
Epishade

LEANING SCUM / SCUM:

Tolkien
Cats
MeatPudding

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 06:15 Teemursu wrote:
HaruRH
Templar,
KotC
NydusHerMain
MeatPudding
GlowingBear

fuck your formatting

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 05:23 Teemursu wrote:
Anyways, welcome to the game Tehpoofter & Mtamburini.

How are you guys reading MeatPudding, KotC and myself?

I'm starting to be willing to ignore whatever MP posts from now on, since his logic is starting to make less and less sense.

KotC is actually starting to sound reasonable, I'm starting to consider even putting him off from my vote list. I like his pressure on MeatPudding.

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 07:42 Teemursu wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:39 Hobbitus wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:04 Teemursu wrote:
On June 25 2014 07:01 Hobbitus wrote:
Around for a little while. Just so you know, I don't have a day off from work/social obligations from now until the end of this game, probably I'll post as much as I can, but there will be long stretches where I can't.

To be honest, I'm feeling kind of discouraged after last night; I put a lot of time into my earlier reads and I feel like it's getting me nowhere :\ If anyone has specific questions for me about D2, that would help. In the mean time I'm going to reread N1 events and post my thoughts.


Hey, I kind of feel the same. Anything specific you want to talk about?

Let's start somewhere if you don't have anything.

What do you think of KotC after the flips?


I am on the fence after the flips. Now that I know Tolkien was town, I can understand his arguments better. However the fact that I couldn't understand his argument until Tolkien flipped is something I'm keeping note of. To me that suggests that Tolkien's alignment generated the case, rather than making a case to figure out Tolkien's alignment. But that's very subjective.

This is how kotc describes his playstyle

I don't make long posts where i list everyone that's playing and say if i think they're slightly X or slightly Y because of Z. It's just not the way i play. I pick out things that i think need addressing and run with them. I push my strongest scumreads and only point out why i think people are town if they're looking like they might get lynched. Doing anything else seems like a waste of time to me.


and he's definitely sticking to it. However, it is a less traditional way to play town, so I'm not sure how to feel about it. His style would be easier to hide scum in, whether or not he is scum.


With his playstyle, it's fine to ask questions. I just need to see him provide the information he gets from the questions.

Regarding that, has there been anything his content has stuck out to you specifically yet?

His push on MeatPudding has been pleasing me so far, so I'm actually okay with him now.

Show nested quote +
On June 27 2014 11:19 Teemursu wrote:
MeatPudding: I'm still reading KotC as town. Just because he voted on Nydus doesn't make him scum. Nydus was still a decent vote and I've expressed my opinion about that.

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 26 2014 13:01 Amiko wrote:
Day 2 - Final Vote Count


meatpudding (0): Teemursu, Hobbitus, The_Templar, GlowingBear
NydusHerMain (3): Tehpoofter, Teemursu, TheKingOfTheCats, TheKingOfTheCats, mtamburini
GlowingBear (0): NydusHerMain
Teemursu (2): Meatpudding, Epishade, Epishade
Epishade (2): HaruRH, Teemursu, Hobbitus
HaruRH (0): GlowingBear
Jabberwockzerg (2): Epishade, The_Templar, TheKingOfTheCats, GlowingBear
mtamburini (2): HaruRH, NydusHerMain

Not voting (1): Jabberwockzerg



NydusHerMain was lynched with 3 votes.



Since the votes were so spread out, I really can't speculate where the mafia voted. I'm going off on my reads so I'm pressuring MeatPudding and Epishade tomorrow.



So, just to be clear, you switched your read on Cats from scum to town because he was asking me questions?
Do you have an updated read on Haruhi?
Since the votes were spread out, do you think there is a good chance mafia had one vote on Epishade?


Not only asking questions but also pressuring and providing information based on those questions.

As I said previously, Haruhi is still strong town, but his response to tambo's pressure was kind of awkward.

If people really want me to explain my town read on Haruhi, I will, but I'd rather focus on scum hunting, since that's where I'm strongest at with this game. I already am kind of exhausted with the game (I can see where Nydus is coming from).

I don't know what would point to at least one mafia voting on Epishade? Nothing points to or away from it. The votes were so spread out and we didn't have a clear candidate for a main wagon.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 28 2014 14:21 GMT
#1760
On June 28 2014 10:10 meatpudding wrote:

Teemu
Has been very unproductive in D2. He seems willing to give easy town reads, while hesitant to call out any scum. I think he is only calling out town as scum, and if he did that too often a wagon would pile onto him. His scum reads aren't given with clear information. He is careful to be completely consistent. He attacks the credibility of anyone who argues against him instead of trying to prove he is town. I believe Tolkien died because he was on Teemu's scum list and he didn't want to be seen to be inconsistent when he voted for me or Epi.



Everything you say is logically inconsistent and simply bad. I'm too tired of debunking everything you say since it's so goddamn stupid.

Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 28 2014 17:22 GMT
#1770
MeatPudding, I'm pretty sure I've been wrong only on one player in this game, Tolkien.
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 29 2014 04:03 GMT
#1952
On June 29 2014 13:02 mtamburini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2014 13:02 Tehpoofter wrote:

Inb4 Haru fake claimed ftw


Yeah that worries me abit too

what's the check
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 29 2014 04:05 GMT
#1960
On June 29 2014 03:21 HaruRH wrote:
Teemu, I want your comment on my giant wall of text. I am so rxhausted right now

IreallyreallylikeyourcasebutWHEREISYOURCLAIM
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 29 2014 04:05 GMT
#1961
AM I TOO LATE TO VOTE
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 29 2014 04:06 GMT
#1964
God fucking damnit. -.-
Teemursu
Profile Joined June 2014
Finland839 Posts
June 29 2014 04:07 GMT
#1966
wtf MP is green? LOL
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