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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 11 2014 22:33 GMT
#1061
On May 12 2014 07:24 Koshi wrote:
Who is scum with me Poofter? cav?


I need to hear from Cav/Hf. They haven't talked today. I am not sure what makes the most sense. I feel they need to talk before I discuss that.

While I'm waiting can you answer anything I have? like do you feel I have not been invested in this game? Do you feel I have been pushing an agenda? How did the night kills help my agenda? You say my likely partner is HF is there another?
mderg
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1740 Posts
May 11 2014 22:33 GMT
#1062
On May 12 2014 07:09 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 04:47 mderg wrote:
On May 12 2014 03:32 Koshi wrote:
On May 09 2014 08:54 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 09 2014 08:49 Holyflare wrote:
On May 09 2014 08:49 Oatsmaster wrote:
poofter scum.
Steve is a policy lynch at this point tbh.

Can you explain?


Gotta setup tomorrow's mislynch. Oats planning ahead here.

Could you give your opinion on this?
You have to know that Poofter at this moment got Steveling as 85% scum.

Why does Poofter say that Oats is setting up tomorrows misslynch?

1) Doesn't this imply poofter knows today is a misslynch? As in 'tomorrow scum needs 1 more misslynch and Oats is making that happen".
2) Why would Poofter think he is going to get "misslynched" tomorrow when he is the one that pushed Steve? Does he know Steve is town and therefore after this lynch he will become a target? Looks like it.

1) This would be easier to judge, if I heard him say it, rather than seeing the text.
2) This seems solid. There would be no need to worry about getting lynched, if steve were to flip scum.

On May 12 2014 03:41 Koshi wrote:
Who is poofter his second scummer?
WAIT
Who is poofter his first scummer now that Steveling is dead?

Nobody knows. He is letting it shine through that it is me.

Give me 1 post Poofter has quoted from me and said it came from scum for x reason? Nothing.

The only thing Poofter is calling me scum for is "Guys I am town, Koshi is scum for being so wrong"

That's the only thing.

Yeah, it didn´t seem like he had any clear scumreads besides steve and (after that oats). It´s odd but it could also just be that he didn´t have another clear sumread.

I agree his reasoning for calling you scum is unconvincing.





Overall there´s solid reasons why poofter could be scum. There´s nothing that makes him scum by itself but the small pieces together paint a scummy picture.




1) The first thing wow that sounds really townie where you said that you would have to hear me say it rather than read it. That screams of objective thinking. That is very true. I do generally talk better than I type (its why I play video mafia more than forum)
2) The time that Oats made that post I thought his push on me was going to be the same regardless of the flip on Steve. The way he said it was "policy" to me read "I don't care we have to lynch steve just because then we go for poofter" so like in my eyes he thinks I'm scum either way. I will however concede that from your point of view you don't know I'm town so it might sound different to you.



I don't understand how you can say the bolded green than red. Do I not have any clear scum reads or am I calling Koshi scum for unconvincing reasons. Like as far as I can tell having STeve as scum then Oats and Koshi as scum reads (even if you think they're bad reasons) is still HAVING SCUM READS So explain to me how you come to those conclusions.


Not having a clear scum read was referring to the time before steve got lynched. At that time your only clear scum read was steve. Also the reasons why you called koshi scum were imo kinda weak. Not necessarily wrong but nothing that would instantly convince me.

Thinking about it, after steve was lynched you made your scum reads clear. It seems like your play style has changed with the steve lynch and you´re now acting more like I´d expect a townie to act. So it´s definitely possible that you were just too focused on steve. That would explain the lack of another clear scum read before his lynch.
I guess I´ll have to go through some filters tomorrow.


I´m gonna sleep now. I don´t want to see any votes until I´m back. We also have to wait for Hf and cav.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 11 2014 22:34 GMT
#1063
Why would we talk to each other?
You don't need to convince me I am scum. I don't need to convince you.

Tell the thread why I am scum.

protip: Quote something from my filter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 11 2014 22:40 GMT
#1064
On May 12 2014 07:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 07:24 Koshi wrote:
Who is scum with me Poofter? cav?


I need to hear from Cav/Hf. They haven't talked today. I am not sure what makes the most sense. I feel they need to talk before I discuss that.

While I'm waiting can you answer anything I have? like do you feel I have not been invested in this game? Do you feel I have been pushing an agenda? How did the night kills help my agenda? You say my likely partner is HF is there another?

1) Sure.

2) Why does this matter? I think you weren't invested D1. Only showed interest to lynch Steve D2. And now only try to show activity so people doubt to lynch you and lynch me.

3) thrawn didn't believe steve was scum. thrawn said that steve wagon was scummy. Oats wanted to kill you. I would say the NK helped you very much. How did the NK help me? Really?

4) Why does this matter? Really? Want me to name a townie so he gets mad at me? Really? I only need 2 scummers.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 11 2014 22:41 GMT
#1065
On May 12 2014 07:34 Koshi wrote:
Why would we talk to each other?
You don't need to convince me I am scum. I don't need to convince you.

Tell the thread why I am scum.

protip: Quote something from my filter.


What if were both wrong Koshi what If you're wrong about me being scum and I'm wrong about you being scum.... what if thats the case. TAlking to each other is a great way to get a read. I'm not afraid to say what I think and have a conversations. You have been addressing and accusing me and asking me questions. So why is it "suddenly bad to talk" when I want to ask questions??????????????????????????????????????????

I don't need your protips thanks though.

How can you honestly have this logic? I mean we should definitely talk because unless either of us is 100% sure the other is scum through something like a cop check or something then talking is ALWAYS a townie thing. The fact you don't want to just helps my case. Its what I wanted steve to do. He refused and just did littlte one liner bullshit like you're doing.


Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 11 2014 22:46 GMT
#1066
Very reasonable of you.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 11 2014 22:53 GMT
#1067
On May 12 2014 07:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 07:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 12 2014 07:24 Koshi wrote:
Who is scum with me Poofter? cav?


I need to hear from Cav/Hf. They haven't talked today. I am not sure what makes the most sense. I feel they need to talk before I discuss that.

While I'm waiting can you answer anything I have? like do you feel I have not been invested in this game? Do you feel I have been pushing an agenda? How did the night kills help my agenda? You say my likely partner is HF is there another?

1) Sure.

2) Why does this matter? I think you weren't invested D1. Only showed interest to lynch Steve D2. And now only try to show activity so people doubt to lynch you and lynch me.

3) thrawn didn't believe steve was scum. thrawn said that steve wagon was scummy. Oats wanted to kill you. I would say the NK helped you very much. How did the NK help me? Really?

4) Why does this matter? Really? Want me to name a townie so he gets mad at me? Really? I only need 2 scummers.



#2 is the most important and thanks for answering btw finally like pulling teeth over here. But #2 you were in the cell mafia game where I was scum and I literally jsut fucked off after the mayor day and got super carried.... that is my scum game. I don't know what to say so I get scared and don't post. So in this game day 1 I played towards my scum meta I could tell you I was doing other stuff but you shouldn't believe me because I'd do that as both alignments so its a null tell at best. Day 2 was town me I went for someone read Dr Who/Titanic I was asking questions and pushing against my scum targets in those games. I was invested I wanted to win. You were in Titanic Dr. Who no but It was there.

#3 I see you have thought about the thrawn kill the Oats kill was pretty obvious and discussed but the fact that you have thought about thrawn in that manner is good seems more townie from you.

#4 It matters because IF you're trying to solve the game you need 2 scums you need to find them both you need to look for pairs and what makes sense. I know that if we hit scum today we still have to hit the other tomorrow so we're in the shitty position of having to be right twice so if you put on blinders and focus only two people (you only 1 in this case because you havent said hardly anything about why HF is scummy) you are destined to lose. You need to look at everyone openly.



So new questions. Lets say a cop had a green check on me who is the scum team then?

Now its not fair of me to ask and not answer so If I found out a cop had a green check on you my best guess would be something like HF/mderg or HF/Cav but I feel like if you're green HF almost has to be scum. HF/Cav need to talk for more info in this area but thats where I'm at. (just because I know that I'll get misquoted and people won't feel like I'm being theoretical I think the scum team is likely to be Koshi/Cav or Koshi/HF I won't say now which one I think is more likely but it has a lot to do with Cav/Hf talking/claiming)

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 11 2014 22:59 GMT
#1068
I'm about to go on lunch at work. I really want to hear from Cav/Hf see how they way in on our talks Koshi. I have like a half horu if you have more questions for me. I have some more for you but I don't want to shit up the thread. I want everyone to be able to read the whole thread and deduce conclusions. I feel like if we argue back and forth it doesn't really help town and causes more confusion than good on a lylo day. On day 1 or something I'd keep at it but in a world where you're not mafia it will destroy us.

So Cav and HF come back!!! Mderg as well.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 11 2014 23:12 GMT
#1069
The only other lynch will be HF. That answers all your other questions.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 11 2014 23:14 GMT
#1070
On May 12 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
The only other lynch will be HF. That answers all your other questions.


No it doesn't
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-11 23:17:55
May 11 2014 23:16 GMT
#1071
Bote Count


Not boting (5): mderg, Cabalinho,Tehpoofter, Koshi, Holyflare




With 5 alibe it takes 2 to lynch
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 11 2014 23:17 GMT
#1072
On May 12 2014 08:14 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
The only other lynch will be HF. That answers all your other questions.


No it doesn't

Yes it does.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 11 2014 23:24 GMT
#1073
On May 12 2014 08:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2014 08:14 Tehpoofter wrote:
On May 12 2014 08:12 Koshi wrote:
The only other lynch will be HF. That answers all your other questions.


No it doesn't

Yes it does.


So happy being wrong So Koshi you bad or scum?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 11 2014 23:45 GMT
#1074
You better be scum.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 12 2014 00:41 GMT
#1075
i actually thought i was dead lol so i didn't bother checking while i was out :D:D:D:D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 12 2014 00:53 GMT
#1076
anyone around?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 12 2014 00:57 GMT
#1077
So new questions. Lets say a cop had a green check on me who is the scum team then?

Now its not fair of me to ask and not answer so If I found out a cop had a green check on you my best guess would be something like HF/mderg or HF/Cav but I feel like if you're green HF almost has to be scum. HF/Cav need to talk for more info in this area but thats where I'm at. (just because I know that I'll get misquoted and people won't feel like I'm being theoretical I think the scum team is likely to be Koshi/Cav or Koshi/HF I won't say now which one I think is more likely but it has a lot to do with Cav/Hf talking/claiming)


Why do you think I'm town all throughout the game but suddenly when it's the last day i'm in 3/4 of your suggested scum teams? Why not Koshi/mderg or Cav/mderg?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 12 2014 01:23 GMT
#1078
On May 12 2014 09:53 Holyflare wrote:
anyone around?


I'm back from lunch.

What you make of me and Koshi's argument?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 12 2014 01:28 GMT
#1079
Also, Koshi pre-steve flip:

[image loading]


"wah wah, all your posts are null but u scum, frustrating can't make case!!"


Koshi, post-steve flip:

[image loading]

"everything in poofters filter makes him scum, i'm not 100% but I am 100%!"
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
May 12 2014 01:29 GMT
#1080
On May 12 2014 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
So new questions. Lets say a cop had a green check on me who is the scum team then?

Now its not fair of me to ask and not answer so If I found out a cop had a green check on you my best guess would be something like HF/mderg or HF/Cav but I feel like if you're green HF almost has to be scum. HF/Cav need to talk for more info in this area but thats where I'm at. (just because I know that I'll get misquoted and people won't feel like I'm being theoretical I think the scum team is likely to be Koshi/Cav or Koshi/HF I won't say now which one I think is more likely but it has a lot to do with Cav/Hf talking/claiming)


Why do you think I'm town all throughout the game but suddenly when it's the last day i'm in 3/4 of your suggested scum teams? Why not Koshi/mderg or Cav/mderg?



I addressed it earlier when Koshi asked me those other teams could be real I have no clue like I said in the post I needed to hear from you and Cav and see where you guys were at and what your claims were.

The reason I had you there was that was under the assumption that Koshi was green which as you might have noticed I don't particularly likely.

Also I am reevaluating everyone you included day 1 you gave me a titanic vibe and we were both on the same page on the Steveling lynch so I had you town yesterday but you just lived through another night as one of the better players on the site imo. So I'm going to look at you again i.e. the clarification "I NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU AND CAV" All I want is more info and I even clarified it.

I honestly feel like this game there is a language barrior I don't know about it because I think I'm being clear and trying to help town and people are just seeing like 1-2 lines of my post that in a vacuum look mildly scummy. Its a frustrating I'm not going to lie.
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