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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 14:01 GMT
#221
On May 05 2014 22:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
actually i have no idea how holyflare opens as town. The feeling i get is that he is trying way way way too hard to be funny


LOOOOOOL
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 14:01 GMT
#222
such a twat
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 14:07 GMT
#223
On May 05 2014 22:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 22:18 Holyflare wrote:
and oats can you explain this to me?

On May 05 2014 20:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Holyflare playing like shit and way over blowing the non-serious attitude. In all his town games he gets down to business fast and even when he jokes around it isnt to this extent.

Cal might be scum for being overdefensive yeah or stevling for being seriously on vivax for no reason.


plz let me know the extent of my town games where this has happened because in all honestly this is a complete lie

nah it aint broa nd you know it.

On May 05 2014 22:50 Oatsmaster wrote:
actually i have no idea how holyflare opens as town. The feeling i get is that he is trying way way way too hard to be funny



So let me get this straight. You made it out to be my town meta that I get "straight down to business" (even though this isn't the case). You then STICK to this by saying what I was doing ISN'T my town meta. THEN you say you have no idea how I open as town and actually it's just a "trying too hard to be funny"?

My question is, why didn't you just say that in the first place? Why did you feel the need to portray this as my non-town meta when you actually had a reason in the first place?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 14:45 GMT
#226
Not paying attention to what? I'm asking why you even mentioned my meta in the first place if you had literally no idea about my meta at all. You've answered now "because it sounded nice"........................... wtf does that even mean, that's the scummiest shit i've ever heard, why would you need to make your argument sound nice if you're just trying to point out information you think is right (all my meta is in my profile too)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 15:18 GMT
#227
On May 05 2014 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I don't see why it is scummy. I don't understand how everybody takes everything serious what Cav did and tries to spin it into something scummy.

On May 05 2014 21:11 Koshi wrote:
that actually sounds smart.



koshi if that's the reason vivax came up with for disliking cav's reply and you liked his response then what did you LIKE about it in the first place to write this?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 15:20 GMT
#230
On May 06 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 23:45 Holyflare wrote:
Not paying attention to what? I'm asking why you even mentioned my meta in the first place if you had literally no idea about my meta at all. You've answered now "because it sounded nice"........................... wtf does that even mean, that's the scummiest shit i've ever heard, why would you need to make your argument sound nice if you're just trying to point out information you think is right (all my meta is in my profile too)

I literally said that meta shit because it sounded nice and convincing and had a decent chance of being correct.



how can you NOT understand the point i'm raising

if you are town WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO CONVINCE ANYONE OF ANYTHING IF YOU DO NOT KNOW IT'S CORRECT


##unbote
##Bote: Oatsmaster
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 15:22 GMT
#231
On May 06 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
Do you know how to play this game Holyflare? Half of the battle comes when town decides that their ego is too large to sheep people without so called "good cases"


So what, you make up points to try and get someone lynched when you don't know whether the points are actually accurate or not? Is that what you are seriously sticking to?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 15:33 GMT
#234
zzz

much afk

many boredom
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 15:35 GMT
#237
On May 06 2014 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 00:20 Holyflare wrote:
On May 06 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 05 2014 23:45 Holyflare wrote:
Not paying attention to what? I'm asking why you even mentioned my meta in the first place if you had literally no idea about my meta at all. You've answered now "because it sounded nice"........................... wtf does that even mean, that's the scummiest shit i've ever heard, why would you need to make your argument sound nice if you're just trying to point out information you think is right (all my meta is in my profile too)

I literally said that meta shit because it sounded nice and convincing and had a decent chance of being correct.



how can you NOT understand the point i'm raising

if you are town WHY WOULD YOU NEED TO CONVINCE ANYONE OF ANYTHING IF YOU DO NOT KNOW IT'S CORRECT


##unbote
##Bote: Oatsmaster

because town needs it to be convinced, I dont. This is simple. You are blowing it up into a huge affair because you got caught.


caught at what..........? There's numerous games where I troll for almost the entirety of day 1 yet you tried to twist my actions at a time where EVERYONE was trolling into something that didn't exist in order to push a lynch on a player, "town needs to be convinced" is the worst thing i've ever heard. You literally just admit to lying to push a lynch on someone.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 15:53 GMT
#241
On May 06 2014 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I think you are scum for overacting and then this overreaction to something that I do practically every game anyway and I never do as scum.

On May 06 2014 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
The meta thing does not play a part at all. Nothing. Stop referring to it because its chainsaw defending.


So why is it that I can't use meta to prove that what you are saying is utter BS but you CAN use meta about yourself to say that you are right? Is this real life or are you just squirming?

On May 06 2014 00:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
The meta thing does not play a part at all. Nothing. Stop referring to it because its chainsaw defending.

On May 06 2014 00:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im really confused here, in what world does scumOats obviously lie about something completely factcheckable and then not give a shit? Oh right, no world.

Your meta doesnt show shit Holyflare.


In what world does town oats lie about something so obviously fact checkable to try and get someone lynched when the game hasn't even started?
+ Show Spoiler +

For anyone that wants to listen to his nonsense and is unconvinced about lynching this mofo yet:

Catastrophe Mafia (Themed) - Didn't do anything ALL of day 1 (oats was in this game), trolled majority of it.

Cell mini mafia trolled almost all game

Titanic 3 Made a fake case on DP to start discussion/get the ball rolling/troll (oats was also in this game!!!)

Vengeful Mafia Did the same thing as titanic 3

Really small mafia - scooby doo all game


You have been in a lot of my games where I've opened with trolling! THAT is why there is an "overreaction" (hint: there's not), you LIED about my meta and it's something you should know about seeing as you were in a lot of those games to get me LYNCHED in an instant majority game but then when I point that out and you have to backtrack and suddenly me pointing out your lie is an overreaction????????

You are scum.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 15:58 GMT
#242
Here's the chain of events:

1) Oats lies about my meta

2) I jump all over oats for this

3) Oats claims me jumping all over him for lying is an overreaction

4) I prove that what he did is a lie with meta

5) Oats says meta is useless -> says he's right because of meta -> says i'm scum for wanting to lynch a confirmed liar

6) Lynch oats

7) Profit. £££$$$$
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 16:11 GMT
#244
Anyway, back to the thread:

On May 05 2014 07:34 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
On May 05 2014 07:24 Cavalinho wrote:
40/m/nd

Let's cyber.


i'm wearing some nice black lace lingerie:

http://www.annsummers.com/p/rhea-black-babydoll/01stblas1041006

kinda like this


wht u wearin bby?


Cock ring and a smile.


This is the towniest post in the thread. By far.

In all seriousness:
On May 05 2014 12:08 Cavalinho wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 12:00 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Cav whyd you choose Steve over Vivax or anyone else?

@Steve what character is Cav?


At first glace, I figured this was setup like Mafiascum, where when someone hits majority they get lynched. I didn't want to put Vivax at L-2 because we were goofing off.

I'm still not entirely sure if that's how it works, but that's my best guess.



This. This is incredibly towny and it's so so so so sooooooo odd that Vivax mentioned it was scummy. Why would scum be CONCERNED about someone going to L-2???? It shows that while he was having fun he was also thinking about the consequences the fun could have on the actual game.

In fact the post vivax made: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/449650-glory-seeker-mini-mafia?page=11#210

Reminded me of this post from titanic 3: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445107-iii-titanic-mini-mafia-ms-paint-edition?page=47#924

Where he compared peoples "shifts in trolling to not trolling" (he was mafia). He takes Cavalinho's post totally out of context and adds on so many fluffy things "why didn't he mention anything about me", even though it's quite clearly explained in the post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 16:15 GMT
#245
However, I do note that the differences between Titanic and here is that Vivax "wants to know more" here, whereas he states in Titanic things are fact. Which brings me to Koshi's response.

I want him to answer this first before I go to any conclusions but it was a super odd response after just berating people for calling cav suspicious:

On May 06 2014 00:18 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I don't see why it is scummy. I don't understand how everybody takes everything serious what Cav did and tries to spin it into something scummy.

Show nested quote +
On May 05 2014 21:11 Koshi wrote:
that actually sounds smart.



koshi if that's the reason vivax came up with for disliking cav's reply and you liked his response then what did you LIKE about it in the first place to write this?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 16:25 GMT
#248
Are you actually kidding me oats? There is 0, absolutely 0 chance you are town this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 16:25 GMT
#249
I point out everything about you and I point out stuff about vivax and koshi and cavalinho but suddenly:

On May 06 2014 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
It feels so fake holyflare. Is cav's stuff really the only thing you noticed?


rofl
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 16:27 GMT
#251
mderg where have you gone? you can't just drop a 1 liner and leave again
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 16:40 GMT
#253
On May 06 2014 01:37 mderg wrote:
I´m still here, I don´t have anything to add right now.

On May 06 2014 00:26 mderg wrote:
I don´t understand your play right now, Oatsmaster. Why would you state something as fact, if you have no idea about it?



You stated this previously and then just sat back but me and oats have been talking for a while. Have you not gained anything else from that conversation that makes you lean in any direction?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 17:56 GMT
#259
On May 06 2014 02:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
This. This is incredibly towny and it's so so so so sooooooo odd that Vivax mentioned it was scummy. Why would scum be CONCERNED about someone going to L-2???? It shows that while he was having fun he was also thinking about the consequences the fun could have on the actual game.


I think it's this defense that rubs me the wrong way. "Why would scum do x" as a basis of a townread is stupid. Scum would do x you don't expect them to do in order to look more townie (for example me hard defending Cav last game even though I didn't have to). Good ol' WIFOM. Overall I feel like HF is picking sides way too strongly, and looks too confident with this and his push on Oats. But I'll observe further.


So what you're saying here is that scum do things that make them look towny all the time......? So you're saying that what he did makes him try to "appear" towny!? That is so backwards.

I see it like this -> we're pissing around I make some joke thing on you and me and thrawn joke vote you. Then I do the same thing with steveling, if we all went on you then that would be L-1 (big risk for obvious joke) poofter goes on steve to avoid this, cav does the same to avoid being at l-2. You return and point out that he hasn't talked about you and that he voted steve without saying anything!?!?!?

and you rationalise it by saying he went all serious mode for no reason...? That's what I don't understand and subsequently WHY koshi's response is so unfathomably strange and I want to know what he liked about cav's post before you said anything
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 17:58 GMT
#260
also why have you not mentioned anything about oats at all? he straight up lied about meta to get me lynched when the game was in clear troll mode but you neglect to say anything about that at all?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 05 2014 18:28 GMT
#261
god damn this game is slow i'm 1/4 of the threads posts so far, why is everybody just casually lurking?
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