You Only Shoot Once Mafia - Page 5

On May 02 2014 15:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Anyone who shoots Cephiro, Slam or Blazinghand is scumclaiming and everyone should policy lynch such a person.


##vote cephiro

/dunked

On May 02 2014 16:00 prplhz wrote:
who wants 21 posts? (no crazy people)

On May 02 2014 21:09 Alakaslam wrote:


He didn't shoot because likely the scum are playing better than town...

Scum need mislynches.

On May 02 2014 21:17 Alakaslam wrote:

Ok

##Donate: 10 to Blazinghand

WIFOM to thy dying breath this shall be glorious

The Svengali, I will watch in the shadows

On May 02 2014 21:41 Alakaslam wrote:

I have said everything there is to say.

Like I said before if town wants me to fabricate some magic bullshit about why I did anything I did I am sorry, it's not happening. I have been open under interrogation, yet ignored- this is what happens.

On May 03 2014 05:50 Cephiro wrote:
@Austin: I would be fine with your second suggestion, but my checks come in pairs. Basically, my checks "reset" after each pair, so the next comparison I will get is after N4 (if I live long enough to get a successful check on N3 and N4, and do not get killed till D5 so I can share them.)

On May 03 2014 06:15 Caller wrote:
check ve cuz he's scum, easy

im surprised we havent gotten a coroner report yet. :/

On May 03 2014 07:17 Foolishness wrote:

JAT, I'm sorry I ever doubted your intelligence. I will buy you dinner should I ever get the opportunity to.

On May 03 2014 08:51 prplhz wrote:
list of things this qt did for town:

On May 03 2014 09:48 prplhz wrote:
Two scum vigilantes isn't all that strong, apparently scum only have 1 KP after 1 scum lynch and and day vigilantes have to explain their shots and are also restricted by the vote leader thing which means that they're can't just yoloshoot townies when they're getting lynched.

I personally think that Alakaslam is scum over Blazinghand.

There's someone else I'd rather lynch though. Maybe even two.

On May 04 2014 08:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
I reread BH's filter today at work seeing if there was much in there that was townie. (It was thank god more coherent than Slam's) It looks like a lot of activity is dying in the thread and I'm a bit sketched out about the fact that everyone is voting BH who claims to be in a mason QT vs Slam who day shot someone threatening to shoot people BWing on a town. Honestly I don't find any of them particularly townie the only saving grace for BH for me has been this Mason QT thing I mean if he is fake claiming mason is a ballsy move from him as scum. I would think that has very low success because he links himself so heavily with Foolish who is forced to back up his claim. I know more about Foolish than BH and I honestly feel like Foolish would make a better play than that but it could have been he was forced to go along with the BH ploy or steam role a mafia.

The activity level of this game feels like the end of Catastrophe so maybe with the Oats lynch mafia has the wind out of its sails. (Perhaps that poofter guy did shoot right after all!)

I really think slam's shot has been scummy and then he hasn't done much but there was a weird posts that I think Foolish pointed out at the start of day 2 where BH took the party line most mafia do of "lets lynch the lurkers" and he voted gumshoe who was first to case Oats. + Show Spoiler +

I'm gonna go with JAT today as I still read him town and if hes right on BH then I'll look over Foolish again but if Jat is wrong I might have to reread him because he is really pushing this BH/Foolish connection hard. (I think too hard to be mafia but flipping BH will tell us a lot)

##Vote: Blazinghand

@austin Oats had the ability to shoot all the 2nd day and decided not to despite him having to know heat was most likely coming his way. He I think could have gotten away with a Slam shot so him choosing not to shoot means either
a) He for some reason thought shooting slam would cause him more suspicion
b) He wasn't around to take a shot before the votes got too high
c) He is mafia with any of the people he feels like he could shoot and without flips it does nothing but hurt him (i.e. Slam)

For me I lean towards b or C cause honestly Slam was on my shoot list if Koshi hadn't been scummy. I wouldn't have given Oats grief over it and honestly probably given him some town cred.


@Foolish I might be misunderstanding how the mason thing works but I don't understand your voting on BH if you're in a QT with him as I thought being in the QT meant you were both confirmed town.

On May 04 2014 08:44 WaveofShadow wrote:

Does anybody else absolutely hate this post?

On May 04 2014 08:51 WaveofShadow wrote:

I think regardless of outcome of today's lynch I want to see poofter swing.
Hell I might actually be more convinced of this now than even BH. Especially given the Koshi shot.
Hmmm.

I feel very marv-y atm.
I think I may actually ask for some extra posts today.

People's thoughts on this post and poofter in general. Go.

On May 04 2014 09:14 Blazinghand wrote:
##donate 5 posts to WoS

Look, I haven't played great, and I've been on the wrong side of the D1 lynch and looked for shenannies on the D2 Lynch. I'll admit it! But when it comes down to it, I've actually been putting in effort to this game. I haven't had amazing reads, but that's all in the past. I could still catch scum here. It'll be even easier if slam is the scum and not ceph.

The level of detail in ceph's claims and the weirdness in his role (though it's consistent with previous ver games) leads me to believe it's a real claim. Like, the whole thing abou this target choices and claim timing make sense because a D4 claim doesn't let him bring more info to the table than a D3 claim and this kind of parity cop, the kind Ver uses, doesn't benefit from anchoring checks. It makes sense.

I'll offer a bit of defense that I think is worthwhile.

1. Foolishness Defense: If I were a scum masoner and not a town masoner, it would not make a lot of sense to recruit Foolishness D1 then hard-defend him. If he's town, scum-me wouldn't want to defend him QUITE so hard. I stuck my neck in the noose with his to get him out, and that's because I really do think the guy is town. If I get lynched for that, at least he's alive and I got something done. I don't see any advantage for me to do this as scum. And if Foolishness is somehow my scumbuddy and I recruited him D1, it would be supremely obvious to my subsequent mason-buddies that he and I were scum together. We've genuinely done good work together. Or at least bounced ideas. Maybe as scum I'd still recruit a town Foolishness and hard defend him, but not like this. Not in a way that turns the entire town against me and makes them want to lynch me before him. You can WIFOM this all you want but really, my hard defenses (like GK that one time I was scum and he was town) as scum don't put my life in danger like this. I'm typically the most valuable member of any scumteam.

2. Oatsmaster stuff: Look, 100% Oats was gonna get lynched. He was the 2ndary wagon D1 and the primary wagon flipped town. His scumbuddies knew that his lynch was inevitable. Yes, I was on the wrong side and had ugly timing on all the Oats wagons. I guarantee you though that as scum I would either hard bus him. The shennanies were weak and shitty, but that's mostly because shenannies rely on lots of little posts and organizing an active town, ideally in a plurality, not majority game. As scum, I would position myself not to look quite so disgusting after an oats flip. Look at me. I'm BH. Do you really think I consider Oats' life ANYWHERE near as valuable as mine? Of course not. As scum, I'd bus him in a heartbeat. I might do it for no reason just to get rid of the guy. He can't be relied on. Now, if I'm scum right now, I could be saying this to throw you off, but if I'm scum 100% I bus oats, not because I think it's some great strat, but because I disdain him. He is trash. He doesn't deserve to share a QT with a god.

You know me. I'm the guy who claims survivor and sticks to it after another guy flips survivor. I'm the guy who talks about emotional breakdowns to get out of the noose. I don't care about my scumteammates, all I care about is winning, and since I'm the best player, that means bussing, not putting myself in the noose to save anyone. Not Foolishness, and certainly not Oats. Really guys, you think I tried to save Oats?

3. Cephiro. Ok, yes, I admit, I was overly suspicious of his claim. But at the time he claimed it, you gotta admit: It was a shit claim. If he was a normal parity cop, those checks would be shit checks and this would be a shit time to claim. He'd be scum. Since he's a Verparity cop, or Verity cop as I call them, then his claim makes sense. But you know who didn't question Ceph's claim? Slam. Slam just accepted it, voted me, and gave away posts. Just like he KNEW that the claim was true, and he KNEW that our alignments are different, because he's scum.

When I'm town, I'm a paranoid motherfucker. I don't trust anyone. I double-check everything. I have been supremely careful about who I let in the QT, and I am pretty sure it's actually all town in there. The only guy who I didn't super check out was this last guy we added, but he's so town it hurts. Look: I doubted the claim, and I did so not cause I'm scum, but because if you were me and in my shoes and that claim came through, looking dodge as fuck, you would question it too. Slam knew the claim was real immediately, because he's scum and knows I'm town. This is my mindset, and it's just how I operate. I don't trust people. You know that about me. You know I'd lie for any reason to win a mafia game, and that's how I view others, and that's how I viewed this claim before the extra deets.

All of these points you're gonna look at and thing "oh BH is saying it though"-- but stop for a minute and take an outside view and look at it objectively. It's not "too scummy to be scum", it's "too strategically ineffective at furthering scum goals to be scum".

I doubt people. I put my neck out for a guy I thought was town (remember, I thought he was town enough to MASON him). I soft-defended a guy who flipped scum, but that guy was Oatsmaster, possibly the most useless player that I don't WoTC. Maybe my mindset seems foreign to you, but those of you who know me:

this aint my scum play.

Vote slam. I'll have an extra 96 hours as conftown, since scum is presumably shooting ceph first. I'll make it worth your while.

On May 04 2014 09:41 Blazinghand wrote:


honestly JAT I have zero respect for you as a human being so not even gonna bother with you

On May 01 2014 12:17 austinmcc wrote:
Fuck bitches
Stack paper

Sleepytime now, but that's reeeeeeeeeal nice. Probably some neat stuff to mine from folks's reactions and whatnot, but mainly we still just lynch scummy dudes.