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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 03 2014 19:13 GMT
#1162
if BH was town he would be drooling all over the thread until deadline so im better with this lynch now, cya in a few days not much to do here.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 04 2014 22:04 GMT
#1270
it would make my life if JAT day vig'd me, please do it
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 05 2014 03:22 GMT
#1286
why would a mafia be so hesitant to divulge it though? I feel like they always panic and just give you watever you want. its usually town that is stubborn like this. id much rather go the palmar/caller route then foolishness they seem a lot sketchier.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2014 19:31 GMT
#1410
oh I thought I voted already weird. I'll be back in a few hours austin after i play basketball so ask away while im gone

#vote: palmar
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2014 22:53 GMT
#1425
austin foolishness has pretty much the same reads as me so I have no reason to lynch him. If he flips scum then I will just follow you guys the rest of the game but I still have a little dignity. Everyone seems to forget that palmar threatened to play anti-town and then didnt die to that fake nuke and that caller was the one that shot it. anyone that thinks this is not 2 fuckers fucking around is blind imo, pretty sure they are both mafia.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2014 22:56 GMT
#1426
like i cant be the only one that noticed they were all fake mad at eachother day one and then have never followed up on it even remotely or even done anything else for that matter. a good distancing tactic that seemed to fool people but i dont buy it.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 06 2014 23:10 GMT
#1430
On May 07 2014 08:08 Tehpoofter wrote:
@VA do you think that Palmer/Caller reactions was scum on scum? scum on town? Like seeing how the days have played out which is most likely in your mind?

7 posts 3 given.


uh just look how caller is playing. he is randomly tunneling me because I claimed PR and wont let go of it but he shot a nuke at palmar that failed then hasnt said anything about palmar the rest of the game? LOL do i need to answer this
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 07 2014 00:06 GMT
#1457
On May 07 2014 09:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar has good reads this game. Oats/BH were both scumreads (granted BH was traitor) and Foolishness is in there too. No way in hell I will be voting him. Also marv/rayn meta on Palmar says he is town. Idgaf Palmar is most likely town Palmar afaik.


lol please read thug life mafia. he bussed his entire team and trolled just like this. the similarities are actually astounding
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 07 2014 00:08 GMT
#1459
On May 07 2014 08:58 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
austin foolishness has pretty much the same reads as me so I have no reason to lynch him. If he flips scum then I will just follow you guys the rest of the game but I still have a little dignity. Everyone seems to forget that palmar threatened to play anti-town and then didnt die to that fake nuke and that caller was the one that shot it. anyone that thinks this is not 2 fuckers fucking around is blind imo, pretty sure they are both mafia.
What are the reads? Cuz as best I can tell, he's got enough town that you likely end up at the tail end of his scumlist.

I get the palmar/caller thing, but the summation of your thoughts on foolishness is "he has PRETTY MUCH the same reads as me", with no further detail, and no explanation of where you guys disagree?




Show nested quote +
I read this and felt like a lot of the stuff he was saying was pretty neutral and/or requires the knowledge of other's alignments i.e. Palmer/Caller/Ace/Prphlz to be town. I did however feel like the bolded parts stood out to me and found the point I underlined the most interesting as austin you made the big thing about how Foolishness didn't research Oats' games when the underlined part makes it seem like he did at least look through them and didn't see similarities (obviously he could fake that and just say he did to seem neutral but why not give a position) The thing is that (assuming what you posted was chronological order) He went from I'm unsure on Oats to talking about his past games and they don't match up. To me that shows a townie thought train of hmm I don't know about x better go research him. If he didn't find anything conclusive it also explains why he didn't express his views in the thread cause what good is that info?
Look at what he does with SnB, prplhz, or people in past games. He pulls from multiple games, generally creating a full idea of what someone plays like.

With oats, his QT posts are:

Show nested quote +
I'm looking through Oatsmaster's game. This game looks neither like his town nor his mafia play.



Show nested quote +
Look at this post Oatsmaster made when he was mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/4328...g-mafia?page=11#216

Now look at this post which he made this current game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/4484...ce-mafia?page=9#166

eerily similarp


those are both D1. Nothing about oats's stuff ever brought to thread though, and that was it. No more posts in QT about his meta. Nothing in the game about his meta. I don't see "hey here's a single post and a single post" as equivalent to what I think of when I think of Fool looking at someone's past games. There are...NO conclusions there except "eerily similar", there was NO checkup on whether people who said "oats = oats" had merit, etc.

If you read just the text of those posts, you go "Foolishness says he's looking into oats!" But there's nothing in thread. There's no analysis, no conclusions, anywhere. Especially in a game where I had a hard time convincing people that this looked like mafia oats and not "oats", it is ... off ... to me that the above is ALL we've got, ESPECIALLY if Foolishness thought he was scum, and ESPECIALLY if he was almost the D1 lynch and Foolishness thought he was scum, and ESPECIALLY if Foolishness was the secondary lynch candidate AND oats was almost the D1 lynch AND Foolishness thought he was scum.


If you're town and Foolishness is scum, you're going wrong because you're not drawing a complete picture of Foolishness, you're valuing little things he says in a QT over what's in thread, you're looking at some things and you're not looking for CONCLUSIONS and ACTIONFOOLISHNESS.




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On May 07 2014 08:21 Palmar wrote:
On May 07 2014 08:18 Palmar wrote:
If foolishness flips town we lynch poofter for TMI


This is no joke btw.

We super lynch poof if fool is town.
I personally think this is 100% wrong.





You are basing a scumread off some one's position on oats. who actually wants to take a stance on oats one of the most erratic players lol. I just ignored him all game and then he died, thats what you do with oats.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 07 2014 00:17 GMT
#1464
On May 07 2014 09:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright Austin I feel better about lynching him. Just know that if he flips town you yourself may be in trouble, despite your early Oats push.
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On May 07 2014 09:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar has good reads this game. Oats/BH were both scumreads (granted BH was traitor) and Foolishness is in there too. No way in hell I will be voting him. Also marv/rayn meta on Palmar says he is town. Idgaf Palmar is most likely town Palmar afaik.


lol please read thug life mafia. he bussed his entire team and trolled just like this. the similarities are actually astounding

He trolled like this in LXI too where he was one of like 8 cops or some shit.
Vayne I really don't want a no-flip right now, can I get you to switch? A foolishness flip will really help us get a better read of basically everyone in the end anyway has the entire game has sort of revolved around him for way too long. Hell that's a good reason to flip him on its own.

Slam switch back pls kthx. I do feel the urge for shenannies but we have a lot of the towniest people on Foolishness right now so at least you can feel good about that.


yea if we arent doing palmar then I will switch. ill be back after I take a shower and some other stuff we got time
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 07 2014 00:18 GMT
#1465
On May 07 2014 09:15 austinmcc wrote:
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Show nested quote +
What are the reads? Cuz as best I can tell, he's got enough town that you likely end up at the tail end of his scumlist.

I get the palmar/caller thing, but the summation of your thoughts on foolishness is "he has PRETTY MUCH the same reads as me", with no further detail, and no explanation of where you guys disagree?
For this exact moment, I don't care if you're going to afk and do very little all game.

But i WOULD like to know what "foolishness has pretty much the same reads as me so I have no reason to lynch him" means.

What are the reads you agree with/disagree with? What ARE foolishness's reads? Do you know them?

Regardless of whether you feel this
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
You are basing a scumread off some one's position on oats. who actually wants to take a stance on oats one of the most erratic players lol. I just ignored him all game and then he died, thats what you do with oats.

I'd still actually like to know why you feel the way you feel about Foolishness. (Also I totally want to take stances on oats, he's not unreadable AT ALL (you can join folks in reading thug life for that, lol))


isn't thuglife where we had some one shoot oats because he was really scummy then he was town? that doesnt help.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 07 2014 00:21 GMT
#1466
also austin, first post of page 2 of foolishness filter is his reads as far as im concerned, and I already have responded in full saying I disagree with WoS and agree on palmar and to some extent RoL just because he was doing nothing. Didn't really say much about oats cause I dont care to read him. Sorry if I am bored with repetitive belligerency.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 07 2014 00:32 GMT
#1469
On May 07 2014 09:26 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2014 09:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
On May 07 2014 09:15 austinmcc wrote:
21
What are the reads? Cuz as best I can tell, he's got enough town that you likely end up at the tail end of his scumlist.

I get the palmar/caller thing, but the summation of your thoughts on foolishness is "he has PRETTY MUCH the same reads as me", with no further detail, and no explanation of where you guys disagree?
For this exact moment, I don't care if you're going to afk and do very little all game.

But i WOULD like to know what "foolishness has pretty much the same reads as me so I have no reason to lynch him" means.

What are the reads you agree with/disagree with? What ARE foolishness's reads? Do you know them?

Regardless of whether you feel this
On May 07 2014 09:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
You are basing a scumread off some one's position on oats. who actually wants to take a stance on oats one of the most erratic players lol. I just ignored him all game and then he died, thats what you do with oats.

I'd still actually like to know why you feel the way you feel about Foolishness. (Also I totally want to take stances on oats, he's not unreadable AT ALL (you can join folks in reading thug life for that, lol))


isn't thuglife where we had some one shoot oats because he was really scummy then he was town? that doesnt help.
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gonna hold off posting more for a moment. People not posting, would be nice of you to donate some to JAT or myself, <3<3

Thug Life was austin keeps ranting that oats is town, oats WOULD have been lynched on like D4 or D5, but got cop checked overnight as town. Mr. Cheesecake in particular was pushing him for the next day and that was the main way he outed himself as mafia. Oats isn't unreadable. I can't claim to know his alignment 100% every game, but I've had a good track record of being correct any time I actually have a strong feeling on him. I dunno that I could teach you how to oatsread like I could teach you how to Dougie, however.



VA, I ... don't like that. Shocker. You're okay with Foolishness because of his reads from the start of D2. Of those 4 reads, 2 guys are dead (and he was 1 and 1), 2 are alive. And he doesn't APPEAR to be scummy on WoS anymore, although he hasn't explicitly said as much (see his posts referencing WoS). You're not at all troubled that "Foolishness's Reads", which you may like, are found at the start of D2, and he's basically put in less effort since then, despite town pushing itself further and further into a good position?


you are asking me to be a hypocrite, I am rarely in a position as town to tell people to try harder. Could foolishness try harder to not get lynched if he's town? obviously. am I in a position to scold him? lol nope. I wouldn't give a shit either if i was getting lynched when I was somewhat playing the game when people that I won't name are currently in this game playing as pacman villains
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 07 2014 02:44 GMT
#1487
regardless of what foolish flips gumshoe needs to go sooner rather then later

##unvote

#vote: foolishness
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 07 2014 03:27 GMT
#1496
shoot poofter, lynch palmar. dont care about poofter's alignment, care greatly about palmar's. how about that wave? JAT can at least oblige us by shooting poofter or gumshoe or some other guy that just posts massive blogs that nobody cares about.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 08 2014 05:30 GMT
#1540
I think marv will suggest the same thing im going to suggest, you need to shoot a massive lurker as we don't care what their alignment is. Caller not flipping is a terrible idea
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 08 2014 05:31 GMT
#1541
On May 08 2014 13:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Did anyone expect differently?

Too bad there wasn't another martyr.

I have nine left.

Ace and palmar talking about "Who do we want to take to lylo"

If not me, you folks are idiots. By definition you want confirmed town at lylo. Since I know you aren't idiots,

##Vote: Ace

Ask me why.


no one else is going to do it so I will, give your reasoning. ill listen since your confirmed but please write in english
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 08 2014 05:48 GMT
#1546
Ive explained the connections I feel he has to palmar in my filter and slam tends to agree as well. and obviously I also want to be cleared as town when he flips scum since he has been tunneling me forever. So its self serving but also has purpose at the same time.

I disagree that caller is a lurker because I dont consider low posting to be lurking. he has made stances in the game and has impacted the game with things like his fake nuke.

Hardcore lurkers non contributors that I would happily see no flip would consist of people like gumshoe, VE, Ace, etc.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 09 2014 02:28 GMT
#1618
what is austin even pushing wave? I dont understand that last post. as far as im aware austin isnt pushing anything atm just not VE.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
May 09 2014 02:40 GMT
#1626
why do people want to lynch VE so bad anyway? I cant even remember him posting once. cant we just shoot him or something
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