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I might have it wrong, but I think this is a countdown until 24 hours from the last deadline, so this should be when night ends:
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@dravenor’s post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447955-newbie-mini-mafia-lv?page=38#743
Epishade:
I think Epishade has done a better job than many players of explaining his reasoning. His reads feel like they are reactive and change in reasonable ways which I think is usually a good indicator of being town. For example, Epishade’s vote moved around some d1 (mtamburini, sweetfrost, eden, sweetfrost) but I feel like he gave explanations as he did change his vote which were mostly reasonable.
I feel like your concern over Epishade is largely drawn from his defensiveness early game. I just don’t find that to be strongly mafia indicative. In other words, I think the possibilities (scum-Epishade defend town-yell0w, scum-Epishade defend scum-yell0w, town-Epishade defend town-yell0w, town-Epishade defend scum-yell0w) are all somewhat reasonable.
ahswtini-
I have to take another look later if I’m alive, sorry. Time limited.
tamburini thought
If tamburini is the SK, I still don’t think he’s necessarily a great lynch tomorrow. If he is SK, his goal should be to keep some balance between the alignments. Since we mislynched d1 and we’ll likely lose another person to mafia KP tonight, a serial killer should probably try to kill a mafia to keep the game balanced out. In other words, I still don’t trust tamburini, but I do feel like if he isn’t scum he should still be working toward a town goal, at least for now. If there’s a scum killed tonight we can re-evalute this.
me/bunnies/Eden (and general “if I die thoughts”):
I understand the point that bunnies & I are fairly townread by most people, but I think you may be overstating town reliance on us / influence we wield. I mean, even if bunnies and I are the most townread, we still only got sqrt & Epishade to join the push on Sweetfrost.
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cont'd (if I die thoughts)
Just filter people, see if their reads make sense, see how they talk about other people. As the game continues and people claim roles, refer back to votes/comments and see if it is consistent. I don't have any secret suspicions right now. Win for town 
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@27ninjabunnies
I forgot to make this point, but thanks for indirectly reminding me.
Sqrt asking about mafia action does strike me as suspicious partly because of his questioning in another game - in a prior game, sqrt asked the following n1 as doctor:
On March 28 2014 08:06 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Eden, if you were doctor, who would you save now? Who's your top town?
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On May 14 2014 07:00 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
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ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
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Well played all! And yaaaaay town victory!
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This was a really fun game to watch.
/obs chat was an emotional rollercoaster, I think we were all certain mafia won but when Epishade unvoted our hopes flew.
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@bunnies: Although I didn't find your LYLO arguments to be that persuasive (sorry) you managed to place your vote on the right person and keep it there (which I do not think was an entirely foregone conclusion) and you managed to feel town to Epishade. In the end maybe that worked out to be more effective than trying to out-argue, so hey.
Coach QT (with Artanis
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/S48eVWsTWJLPt
Not very long since I died D1, but I tried to make good use out of it. Helped in thinking through mtamburini's claim (also let me just say again MTAMBURINI LOL WHAT).
General game thoughts
I thought this was a really fun game. Activity was good for the most part, and there were no modkills. Not really any raging or insults. I felt there could have been more analysis, but it wasn't terrible.
There were some flubs - meat getting banned, meat talking about his coach getting banned, the misreport of role.... but, thankfully none of them seemed to materially affect the game. On that note, I'm really glad we didn't lynch meat d1, despite his slow start when he came back I think he played well.
I felt there were very few real defenses when people started to get lynched, which was unfortunate for both town and mafia. I'm glad the last day was more active in that respect.
Thoughts on my own play after dying n1 (posted from obs qt)
+ Show Spoiler +In terms of play, I think I did pretty well pushing on people d1 and working through reads. I didn't actually feel that confident in my reads, but I felt like it was important to get people talking about each other and I felt my points on SweetFrost and mtamburini were decent.
I'm disappointed SweetFrost was a mislynch. I did consider trying to get votes moved after SweetFrost said he wouldn't move his vote, but it felt like the only wagon I could have gotten people onto was sqrt and I didn't feel it was a tempting enough alternative.
For my play, I am mixed. As Miller, I felt it was important that I either appear townie (so I don't get checked) or get shot (so it didn't matter). I was thinking I would probably claim d3 at the earliest, hopefully later, since that would be the soonest someone would out with parity cop checks.
I think my style is to vote when I'm ready to lynch someone. I tend not to vote for pressure, and I rarely unvote when I pick someone to vote on. I will try to improve on that and maybe be a little looser with my vote next game to see how it helps my play.
Thoughts post-game on my play
I give myself some credit for making some points on Eden and dravenor d1, but don't feel that great about it since I also raised some concerns on yell0w and ended up pushing for SweetFrost. I think D2 would have been really different if I was alive- I think I would still resisted a lynch on sqrt and pushed on Eden that day, but I really can't say how that would have panned out.
For myself, I promised I would try to do more to defend other people I townread this game. I think I did that okay... sqrt and epishade only got a little pressure when I was alive, and I didn't really need to pressure bunnies.
Getting killed n1 felt like a compliment :D Dying D1 as miller was totally acceptable to me, though I was bummed when it turned out there was no parity cop. Oh well. I'd still love to read the scum QT when someone gets a chance to post it.
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As always if anyone has any advice/suggestions/comments on my play I'm always glad to hear them :D
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On May 17 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Yeah. Real life got in the way. Between finals, moving out of my dorm, working. I couldn't post as much as i was at the beginnig. And then me having to drive 8 hours for my cousin's graduation today didnt help either
I remember when I was driving home (~30mins) on my LYLO day I felt super frantic, lol, if I had to drive 8 hours I think I would have found a cliff and driven off it.
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@sqrt
LOL, I died d1 and I still feel exhausted as if I was playing in LYLO. I need an /obs vacation :D
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I talked about it a bit in obs, but I felt like a parity cop claim on the last day would have to be fake. There had been no roleblocks claimed from bunnies after d2 or epishade/eden at all, so if a cop had been alive d4 or d5 I'd think they would start revealing their checks, or at the very least claimed them in the night just before D6. It would be really really hard to persuade me someone was parity cop d6.
That said, I really like the idea that Eden would have believed a parity cop claim on d6 when he wouldn't believe Cav's claim on d1. :D
In all seriousness though, I think you played well Eden. I feel like you probably could have fought off my early suspicions of you if I pushed them harder, and you put a lot of effort into the cases. Well played!
Drav I don't think you were awful the way you are suggesting... although you were definitely in my scum list, you clearly put effort into your posts. I think because your posts were less frequent, though, each one received more focus and small comments that would have otherwise gone unnoticed ended up working against you. No worries
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It's okay if your meta is appearing scummy d1 cav, it just means you can probably get out of d1 lynches in the future.
Sqrt had great activity and really good reads (he called all 3 mafia in obs right after he died) but still was mislynched d2, I think largely because of his semi-undirected questioning style. If people know that's his style, hopefully they'll see that as alighnment-neutral for him.
I guess my meta is to get my preferred lynch d1, except it is a mislynch. Then, get carried to a victory somehow :D
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