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Cavalinho
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On April 15 2014 14:32 ObviousOne wrote: Right on, right on. What you thinking about right now? Nothing has happened yet. So...Nothing. | ||
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On April 16 2014 03:57 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm not even tunneling you. If I thought you were scum I'd vote for you. Are you scummy to me? yes. Uhh. Also I don't get the points in your post at all. | ||
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On April 16 2014 07:23 OneThousandWords wrote: I also find it odd how Cavalinho has chosen to respond to posts in the thread. His chose his first posts of the game to say hi and that he isn't going to comment on anything because nothing has happened. I find this in and of itself strange. When people first start the game they usually start to converse with people or even talk about policy, however, Cavalinho decided not to have any part of the conversation whatsoever. Now, understandably we do not know the circumstances and I'd like to hear more from him but then he returns to the thread after quite some time to post, well, nothing. His only real post is a post to jump on discrediting OmniEulogy (whether justly or not). I find this an odd behavioural tidbit because IMO this is not a townies mindset. I have three posts and you're scumreading me off them. That doesn't make any sense. I'd actually argue, but you have no real information to determine my alignment one way or the other. (Though, in all fairness, I have been somewhat inactive.) Oddness aside, I'm actually going to go ahead and say that I somewhat like this post in the sense that it feels like you're trying to generate discussion. Sure, it's wrong, but that happens. With the activity of the thread being so mediocre as it stands, trying to generate discussion is a pro-town move in my eyes. | ||
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On April 16 2014 06:09 FirmTofu wrote: Djagulingu is fairly unimpressive. His activity is commendable, but altogether useless. Most of his posts are one-liners that seek to aggravate or provoke. I see a lot of unsubstantiated accusations in his filter. He's running around trying to piss everyone off all at once without any attempt at substantive discussion. His focus on his own meta is especially interesting and reflective of an egotistical personality. For that reason, I believe his aggressive behavior in thread so far is due to a heightened sense of superiority rather than something alignment-indicative. That is to say, he'd be acting like a douche whether he was mafia or town. Why did you make this post? It's nothing more than a wall-of-text with no real meat in it that reaches no definitive conclusion. | ||
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I think it's really easy to look like you're doing something in a game like this, where there's little content and big posts look good, but even a quick glance reveals that he isn't actually doing anything in his posts. The only exception is his sole townread which is needlessly long and has already been discussed by other players. ##Vote FirmTofu Thrawn's filter is shitty too, but it's shitty in a blatant way rather than a way where he looks like he's doing something but he isn't. I'd like to hear more from him as well. | ||
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On April 16 2014 13:48 FirmTofu wrote: Because Koshi wanted me to give my thoughts on him? I wouldn't have mentioned him otherwise. Yes, but you don't actually think anything in this post. It's just a wall of words that ultimately goes nowhere. Why would you insist on making a giant wall of nothing rather than just say "I don't have any opinion on this guy yet?" It's as if you wanted to be seen as doing things while ultimately accomplishing nothing. | ||
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On April 16 2014 14:22 ObviousOne wrote:@Cavalinho - admits he looks scummy, seemingly focuses in on FT for calling him scummy, lol. This thing regarding FT is pretty funny since the game is only like 10 pages long and it's the missing context that makes me think you're just clicking filters looking for an easy target. Need another scum read from you, mate. 1) I never said I looked scummy. I said I was inactive, and asking me to talk more is a reasonable thing to ask. 2) FT never even talked to me until I posted my vote on him. OTW was the one who made a read on me. 3) I said that the short case posted on me is, at best, null and silly, due to my three posts having no alignment-indicative information in them whatsoever If you're going to pressure me, at least get the details right. Cripes. | ||
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Go to sleep. | ||
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Also, I have a question for you kush. Why is it that you ask me a question, and when you don't receive an answer due to me not being anywhere near the thread for some time, you vote me and say that I'm just focusing on FT? That's scummy. It's like you were planning on voting me regardless of my answer. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:34 kushm4sta wrote: How is that my only reason for thinking you are scummy? That is one of many reasons. From my point of view, it looks like that's what it boils down to. If there are more reasons, tell me what they are, because I don't see it. Also, what's up with my handle? >.> | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:43 kushm4sta wrote: my case on cavalinho outlined 1. you think FT is scummy for answering a question thoroughly, rather than just saying "im null on that guy 2 you are calling FT scummy for one very unspecific, generic reason: He is writing a lot while not doing anything, basically. And you keep saying that in different words over and over again. 3 it looks nothing like your town game, where the reasoning behind your reads are much more in depth. 4 You are scumreading FT, when what you are scum reading them for, not taking a stance, mberg does much worse. Oh you had a secret scumread on mberg, ok... 1) It's not because he answered a question thoroughly. He didn't answer it thoroughly. He made a post that looked like he was doing analysis which boiled down to an analysis with no definitive conclusion. 2) His filter is less than a page long. He doesn't answer my questions and doesn't really respond to/deny accusations. It's possible he's genuinely afk, but I'm going to keep my vote on him until he convinces me otherwise. 3) Newbie games and regular games are two completely different things. Just because my reads aren't as elaborate as they were, that doesn't mean my reads were necessarily better then. The key difference is that I was outing my reads as a whole, rather than just scumreads. 4) You act like I was supposed to ignore mderg so I would look scummy, and then I admit I have a scumread on him too. This makes me scummy...How, exactly? I don't understand your logic. | ||
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On another topic, I have a slight townread on you. I feel like you're trying to solve the game, and I don't think I'll be voting for you today unless some ridiculous bullshit comes up. You're wrong, of course, but your posts have a town vibe to them. I find it difficult to elaborate on you as a whole, because the way the regulars play and the way the newbies play are completely different. Your method of posting is much more breezy and geared towards normal speech rather than the wall-of-text posts that newbies have. My vote is probably going to stay on FT or mderg for now. | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:16 OneThousandWords wrote: Also, Kush, I've read what you think of Cav and I agree to an extent. I do give him bonus points for bringing up a player that was relatively unmentioned by the rest of the players here though. I think what Cav said does actually hold some merit. Tofu was just responding to questions from Koshi and while they may be elaborate ways of saying a player is null (I don't agree with Cav that this is something scum do) they were all just responses to Koshi asking a question about a player and the responses were fairly basic. All he really talked about was Skanjab's claim probably being a town claim which is what was already said in the thread before. His read on Dja was also not very analytical, it was a tone null read, which is an odd way to approach a read on a player who was active at the start of the game and had posts to talk about. The point that I agree on though is that Cav's filter is very one dimensional. It exclusively talks about a player who has not very many posts and afk'd at the start of the game. This would be an easy person to pick on for mafia and the fact that he has no real mention of other players (not just mderg) is slightly more worrying. Then, rather than elaborate on more reads or question things or show his thought process he just defends against accusations more and more when under no real pressure which is odd. @Cav, you mentioned you had a scum read on mderg for similar posting. Why did you not mention him? Have you got a read on any other players at this time? For the sake of giving information, I think you, Koshi, and Kush are town. I've already given my opinions on you and Kush. Koshi just strikes me as town for the moment. The way he's coaching people in this game and trying to dictate the pace of the thread by making people post more feels townie to me. He's pressuring people and giving reads and trying to get rid of people he can't read. (Even though I'm one of them. -.-  I think mderg and FT are scummy, for the same reasons that I've elaborated on. FT needs to talk more though. | ||
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Disregard pls. | ||
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And furthermore, can the mods please count my vote on FT? Here, I'll make it again: ##Vote FT Kush's case on me is hysterically bad. Like, I actually think I want to punch him in the face for the shit he's saying. I've responded to it multiple times in an effort to debunk it, but it doesn't seem like he actually gives a shit about what I'm saying. I could say that about the majority of the people on my wagon. Rofl. | ||
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Cool. Discuss Vivax's last post on why my lynch is bad pls. | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:30 OmniEulogy wrote: I'm gonna help you out here Cavalinho cause I'm a nice person. Voting is done in this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447974-normal-ass-normal-game-voting-thread?page=2#37 you are welcome. ROFL. OOPS. BRB. | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:47 FirmTofu wrote: Meh, Vivax's defense seems too organic. It feels like a very risky play for mafia to make. I don't think he's scum. Cavalinho, on the other hand, probably is. Have you actually said anything that has any basis in fact? Vivax has made good points, and you have yet to address any of them while egging on my lynch. Here, you're just going "yeah cav is probably scum." Have you actually sat down and considered that something like that might have put you on the wrong track? | ||
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On April 17 2014 12:45 thrawn2112 wrote: tbh i don't feel that great about either of these lynches. something feels wrong Why? | ||
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If FT gets lynched and flips town, I think we should start questioning everyone else that isn't coalescing on him. I thought that this lynch was pretty polarized up until thrawn and OE flipped their votes. Anyone else agree? | ||
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On April 17 2014 13:07 thrawn2112 wrote: So. You've been talking about FT all game long, and now he's flipped town. What were your immediate thoughts after seeing his flip? Well, I fucked up a lynch pretty hard and I feel kinda shit for it. In regards to how people look, I'm thinking the people that flipped at the last second are probably town, considering that I'm town and scum had nothing to gain from flipping at the last second. There's simply nothing to gain from flipping votes on a TvT cross and risk looking really bad in the process, so I'm thinking that we should be looking at people who have had their votes on stray players the entire game thus far. Obviously we should get around to questioning everyone, but those are the people we should look at first. Also, Kush, towards the end of the lynch it was either going to be me or FT. Initial reasoning aside, it became a matter of simple survival by pushing FT over mderg, because we were the only two possible lynches at the end of the day. Obviously I need to rethink my reads, but I feel like you're glossing over a lot of what happened in order to push me. | ||
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On April 17 2014 13:25 kushm4sta wrote: ]You were voting for FT over mderg ALL day 1. You put your vote in long before it was a you vs him situation. So why vote FT not mderg. You have said you gave reasons why you think FT is scummier, but you never provided those reasons. What am I glossing over? I gave reasons as to why I was voting FT over mderg. You're glossing over everything that happened and you're focusing on me having two scumreads but voting one over the other. I was wrong on one, probably both; even if I voted mderg, and he flipped town, you would still be pressuring me because I voted mderg and not FT. It's a circle that ultimately goes nowhere. Can you just drop it now? | ||
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On April 17 2014 13:36 OmniEulogy wrote: I'd argue that scum is just as likely to say "hey look both of these guys must be town too cause I'm town and so is vivax for defending me!" when in reality let's be honest, we just lynched a townie and know nothing about Cava or what this makes him. Except for all of the posts I've made up until this point...? Also, you're glossing over the people I wanted to look at after the lynch. What do you make of those candidates? | ||
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And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early? | ||
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I'm not sure. I need rethink a ton of shit after this lynch. and who are you even asking that question....lol What exactly are you getting at here? Am I supposed to just roll over and die when people want me lynched/shot? Nobody is telling me what makes me scum, even though my lynch was deemed a terrible idea in the first place. | ||
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On April 18 2014 01:16 thrawn2112 wrote: It's not a trick question. You say "And why the fuck is Djag focusing on lylo so early?" I want to know who you wanted to answer that question. Who did you write it for? Myself, I think. I'm probably going to do a write-up on several people when I get the chance, specifically Djag, because I don't think his thought process makes sense. | ||
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On April 18 2014 01:24 OneThousandWords wrote: Cavalinho, when you first joined the game, you made this post: Which was fair enough and it seemed like a way a towny would respond, however, practically your next post was: How are the two events different? Why mention in the first place that reading someone as scummy from only a few posts is a weird thing for town to do (admittedly you town read me for it anyway) but then in your next post do the exact same thing? The difference is my posts have no content while FT's posts looked like they had content but didn't. The two are completely different, albeit I was still wrong. | ||
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On April 18 2014 01:22 thrawn2112 wrote: his thought proces makes perfect sense. it'[s just unbelievably noobish and lazy. so that's really weird that you asked a question to nobody in particular, a question puts djag in a negative light, except when I pressure you on it you're just talking to yourself? and you don't know if you're scum reading him yet you plan to do a write-up on him? Better question: why would I know his alignment before I do a serious filter dive? I have to run errands, be back in a couple hours. | ||
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On April 18 2014 13:00 OmniEulogy wrote: well, allow me to do something about that for you. As long as I'm not RB'd Cavalinho is dead. I'm vig. Welp. I was town, for the record. I think it's kind of hysterical that nobody realized how shit those cases were. | ||
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I'd really like to stop dying before day 2 now please. | ||
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