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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 12:53 GMT
#399
Try to put in some ideas on who is scum though. Even if you feel you are not informed enough or invested enough or w.e.

You have read things. Can you bring new things to the table?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 14:03 GMT
#408
OmniEulogy,
Why have you still said nothing on Kush?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 14:21 GMT
#413
The good news is that Skanjab and mderg are not both mafia. I think both could be town actually and I have 0 interest to lynch into them today.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 14:23 GMT
#415
##unvote
##vote: OneThousandWords


This one or Kush.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 14:26 GMT
#416
On April 16 2014 23:23 OmniEulogy wrote:
his vote on mderg is scummy imo, his accusations considering his entire filter comes down to policy lynching Slam and lynching mderg, and then his conversation with Koshi about Kush where he only votes for kush after you do Skan. It just seems like the only thing he does is try to find a SAFE place to put his vote.

I gave thrawn townie points for noticing OTW and Kush scummy points.

The gigantic problem is that he didn't bring it to the thread till I asked. But I think he is trying to solve the game, just not trying to help the thread. Or he is playing scum pretty well.


Omni, if Kush and thrawn are your biggest scumreads. Why are you voting thrawn who started the wagon on Kush? Is he bussing or is Kush town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 14:34 GMT
#418
About point (1):

Will you give the answer before the end of N1 skanjab?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 14:43 GMT
#421
On April 16 2014 23:35 OmniEulogy wrote:
the problem I'm having right now Koshi is that between Kush, Cavalinho, Slam, FirmTofu, and even still mderg I have no reason to think that any of them are town. I'm also undecided about OTW and OO but they give me a better feeling than the others. given that I'd rather vote for Thrawn even if he is voting on Kush because to me Kush blends in more with the others making me doubt if we'll really lynch scum if we lynch him.


All the following posts are thrawn scumhunting. Most of the time with fresh ideas. I think the sum of these posts is more than what others did. There are a couple posts that I also find extemely townie. Small things. For example how he knows when OTW is online and that he was waiting to talk with him. Something like that looks very townie to me.

On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.


On April 16 2014 16:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
That's part of it. But my main point is that there's no indication in that huge post that he's trying to solve the game. He quoted a bunch of stuff and said some decently reasonable things that don't have anything to do with his thoughts on alignments.

On April 16 2014 17:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 17:33 Djagulingu wrote:
EBWOP: I can settle with lynching mderg because

1- He's still on my #2.
2- Lynching my #2 is better than a no lynch.
3- As this is a plurality lynch game, I'll vote for whoever gets highest amount of votes between mderg and cavalinho.


Why are you dropping omni from your lynch list?


On April 16 2014 17:53 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 17:36 Koshi wrote:
I am pretty meh on Kush atm.
Very meh.


same for me. becasue of this post

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 04:48 kushm4sta wrote:
T-5 hours until you both realize each other are town (regardless of if you are or not)


On April 16 2014 18:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
to clarify

the part in parenthsis makes the post..... impossible?

if you take out that qualification at the end then the post reads as kush saying that both of "you" are town and that you should realize it and stfu. but the the stuff in parenthesis means that he doesn't know if "you" are town... so if he doesn't know if the two players are town then why is he telling them that they should realize that they are havnig a town vs town argument?


On April 16 2014 18:40 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 18:37 Koshi wrote:
a guy has 10 minutes time to play the game. Reads thread. Quotes some posts he has ideas about and puts those ideas in thread.

That's what I see.

What you are seeing is:
A guy is pretending to be away from thread because he is scum.


How do you know you are right?


hmm? that's not my point

my point is that he argues with a few posts and points out some logical errors or whatever

but then he doesn't have any conclusions based on that. and nowhere in his oneliners do I get the sense that he's thinking about alignment. he's only thinking about arguing with random posts.

theres' not one single thing in his post that indicates that he's even remotely concerned with people's alignments. that's why i want to lynch him.


On April 16 2014 19:26 thrawn2112 wrote:
100words is probably my 2nd lynch choice. i almost voted for him instead of that other guy. what stood out to me is how his main talking point was skan's claim and how pointless it was to talk about the claim yet he did nothing but talk about the claim

koshi i'll fully read and respond to that meta when i wake up. too tired/tipsy for that right now. but i did skim one of the links and I notice that he likes to argue about stuff without thinking about alignments. so my preliminary answer to you question is yes, the meta does sorta make me uncertain about lnyching him.


On April 16 2014 19:29 thrawn2112 wrote:
koshi do you want to go after bigger game? i'm pretty willing to lynch kush.

i don't know about oe yet. i see why his posts are bad but i'm still not convinced he's scum. i want to talk to him first and i was hoping he'd show up in these last few hours (cuz he came on about the same time 24 hours ago) but he hasn't. so idk what to think of him just yet.


On April 16 2014 19:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
well I do sorta recognize that it's a shitty afk lynch. that's why I'm not pushing it so hard lol.

a few hours ago i read the thread, decided that mdgerg was scummy, OE is a bit scummy too and that he needed to be my first priority. I noticed that he started posted a little less than 24 hours ago so I thought i'd hang out in the thread and try to talk to him when he shows up. but he hasn't. reading his filter over and over doesn't do anything for me so I can't really progress that read.

you ask what's mderg's agenda. isn't the fact that he has no agenda pretty scummy? my whole point is that he has no agenda, that he's literally not trying to find mafia. he's make NO EFFORTS to find mafia, he doesn't even seem interested in that part of the game. idc about him lying or not, his 10 min statement doesn't tell me anything other than that he feels like he needs to apoligze for his lack of contributions.

so I'm wanting to look into OE but i';m conflicted about that, so I want to talk to him first. but he won't oblige me

i'm semi interested in lynching kush and i tried to talk to you about that but you half-agreed with me then decided the conversation was useless.

so i don't know what you expect from me, considering all of the above

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 15:30 GMT
#432
This just in:
OTW says skanjab can be mafia while at the same time OTW believes skanjab is vig.

I would lynch him for that alone.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 15:33 GMT
#435
Indeed. So his defense that he believes the claimis bullshit. He doesnt believe the claim at all. He only believes it is possible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 15:37 GMT
#437
On April 17 2014 00:35 kushm4sta wrote:
he believes but still acknowledges the possibility that skan is scum

Then you dont believe the claim. Are you dense?

"I believe that you claimed vig. But you could also be scum"

How???
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 15:38 GMT
#438
You cant believe a claim a and at the same time believe the guy is still vt or scum. Then you dont believe the claim.

But the point I make is that OTW says that skanjab needs to claim rb or is scum. Why is that???????
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 15:53 GMT
#440
Kush.
1 more time.
OTW pushed a idea in the thread that skanjab is scum for x. While x was a false reason.

I corrected otw and said x was a bad reason. OTW doesnt agree.

That also summed up otw filter.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 16:15 GMT
#446
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia and has to claim being RB which enables all town roles to do their stuff.



DO YOU SEE THE RED PART? THAT PART IS BULLSHIT. Here OTW puts the idea in thread that it is impossible for Skan that he needs to be RB because he claimed. HOWEVER, OTW doesn't believe that Skan is vig. THE FACT THAT HE DOESN'T believe he is VIG is because he says skan can be VT, Vig or scum.

Why can't scum believe that skanjab is not a vig?


This is correct ↓
On April 15 2014 21:54 OneThousandWords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 21:45 kushm4sta wrote:
O Kochi I got you mixed up with some other dude.

Skan you realize you might be roleblocked ...


There's 3 possible scenario's here (although only if RB's are notified which OP doesn't mention AFAIK):

1) He is VT claiming a role and in which case he could draws a RB and real roles can get on.
2) He is vig and draws a RB for better roles that give information.
3) He is mafia.

Something I said from the fucking start and I don't know why we are still discussing this. OTW should just agree with me because I am right and he is wrong and start doing some useful things.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 16:15 GMT
#447
Why do I always change my sentence in the middle of my sentence. So strange.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 16:18 GMT
#449
On April 17 2014 01:16 kushm4sta wrote:
That is not "pushing" an idea on the thread. That is laying out three possibilities.

You are overreacting hugely koshi.

Roles kush can have this game:
1) mafia goon
2) mafia gf
3) mafia rb
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 16:18 GMT
#450
##unvote
##vote: kushm4sta
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 16:19 GMT
#451
The joke with that post is that I lay out 3 possibilities but they aren't the only 3 and I am making it seem that it is impossible that Kush is just town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 16:22 GMT
#453
You are bleeding town Kush.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#455
Pls explain to me how skanjab has the RB 100% on him after his claim that nobody believed. OTW his 3 possibilities all have skanjab being RB.


If you can't not all options are listed by OTW.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 16 2014 16:36 GMT
#458
On April 17 2014 01:30 kushm4sta wrote:
So OTW said something incorrect regarding mechanics. How does that make him scummy?

OTW said something incorrect.

The only point I want to make.

I had a good night of sleep.
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