EPTGrats to Holy.
In the future, if you need win-loss records over a certain period, I can get them in like 60 sec rather than doing things by hand.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Grats to Holy. In the future, if you need win-loss records over a certain period, I can get them in like 60 sec rather than doing things by hand. | ||
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Balla24
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 01 2014 22:37 Balla24 wrote: I'd like to see the raw W-L ranking since jan1 this year Would 1-0 be better than 6-1 in raw W-L ranking? | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On April 01 2014 22:40 prplhz wrote: Would 1-0 be better than 6-1 in raw W-L ranking? I mean, i don't care so much about the order more just pure stats are interesting to me. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
people shouldn't get too hung up on mafia statistics though, especially not over such a short period of time. at best it's a very unreliable (but fun) indicator of skill. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On April 01 2014 23:24 prplhz wrote: well apparently kitawizard is able to conjure that up in no time. people shouldn't get too hung up on mafia statistics though, especially not over such a short period of time. at best it's a very unreliable (but fun) indicator of skill. win% is pretty useless all the way down. Getting killed by mafia, people listening to you, not getting lynched, voting for mafia and helping people to solve the game are good qualities for townies. Not getting lynched pretty good as mafia. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
First we would need to find a $1 billion sponsor for a perfect bracket. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Marv hates me though because I didn't try in the PYP mini | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 02 2014 00:06 yamato77 wrote: I was 3-1 Marv hates me though because I didn't try in the PYP mini I counted only 2-1 - PYP, Foundation, Survivor. What did I miss? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
On April 01 2014 23:42 kitaman27 wrote: A March Madness style bracket for who you would most want on your team might be fun, but I wouldn't want to boost certain players egos too much. First we would need to find a $1 billion sponsor for a perfect bracket. Who I'd want on a scum team and on a town team would differ though. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On April 02 2014 00:08 marvellosity wrote: I counted only 2-1 - PYP, Foundation, Survivor. What did I miss? Quiet game? Well, that was posted Dec 31, so maybe it doesn't count. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 01 2014 23:31 Koshi wrote: win% is pretty useless all the way down. Getting killed by mafia, people listening to you, not getting lynched, voting for mafia and helping people to solve the game are good qualities for townies. Not getting lynched pretty good as mafia. don't think hit rate is reliable either (because of docs/jailers making scum hit middle-of-the-road-players instead of town gods) voting patterns in unreliable because some people vote all over the place just as part of their play. a naïve final vote count analysis is unreliable because single votes on scum can't be said to be that much better than just getting rid of disruptive townies. especially with majority lynches and small lynch candidate pools. but i think that a thorough analysis of final vote counts might be the best single indicator, there's also a lot more data here (several vote counts for each game) and mathematical mafia ranking has precious little information to go by (compared to games like starcraft, dota, chess). people listening to you isn't necessarily a good thing (if you're bad) and along with "helping to solve the game" is pretty impossible to measure. of course you're doing good if you're helping to solve the game but since those two pretty much mean the same it's impossible to say that one indicates the other. not getting lynched is again just a somewhat unreliable indicator for scum, you can easily be a vocal scum who ruins a couple of days for town and then gets lynched who is playing a lot better than your lurking scum buddies who just cruise to victory in the chaos. anyway, what i'm getting at is that making a mathematical ELO/TrueSkill inspired ranking for mafia is really hard and at best very unreliable because there's very little information available and i think it's all pretty unreliable. power ranks are fun, easier to make (!!!), and likely to be a lot more accurate. On April 01 2014 23:38 marvellosity wrote: prplhz was 3-0 and he didn't get on the list :p yea wtf don't even want to know what oats did to get that #10 ahead of me. did he played well or what? that's cheating. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 02 2014 00:14 yamato77 wrote: Quiet game? Well, that was posted Dec 31, so maybe it doesn't count. yeah I didn't count that one. If I did, you'd probably have been included. Dems the rolls :p | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 02 2014 00:24 IAmRobik wrote: But like, it's tough to "wreck scum" when you're n1'd all the time for calling out the scum team :-\ you need to evolve to being such an obvious n1 hit that mafia don't dare hit you, you see. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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