Catastrophe Mafia

On April 03 2014 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:

We gonna have a problem, meow?

To the rest of you who are not whoever-this-guy-is, I have....things to give away tonight.

Any takers?

On April 03 2014 09:26 WaveofShadow wrote:

Oh shit was I supposed to set a price?

On April 03 2014 09:30 WaveofShadow wrote:

I haven't.

Who's in this game again?

On April 03 2014 09:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I'll go through everything with Koshi tomorrow. I think we have a lot of shit on the table already as we are only 24h into the game. geript i try to explain my read on prplhz for the last time and if you are town you gotta stop this shit and start paying attention.

Until tomorrow i'm off.

~rayn

On April 03 2014 09:33 Hopeless1der wrote:
Since WaveofShadow is willing to "give away" whatever his wares are, I must assume that he is quite bad at whatever it is that he is doing. He may have malicious intent. He may be misinformed. I do not wish for Catastrophe™ to occur. WoS, why should we desire your things? Are they certain to be of assistance?

On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

On April 03 2014 09:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
lolwut
Am I the only one who liked Dandel's post?

On April 03 2014 10:00 Hopeless1der wrote:

for example...me =\
+ Show Spoiler +

On April 03 2014 10:01 IAmRobik wrote:
I mean...he's prolly town again, but that doesn't mean that he's playing well or that he's right. He was pretty obvious town at some point in foundations too...that didn't mean that all he wanted to do all game was lynch townies

On April 03 2014 10:05 IAmRobik wrote:

You said I should be policy lynched for saying the stuff I said.

On April 03 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:

Uh ok. I use it a ton and I don't really get burned by it. Not really worried about it anyway as Yamato is super easy to read. But lets not try and give iamp advice he kind of knows what he is doing.

On April 03 2014 10:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Keirathi I'll play with you if you'd like.
You want an item?

On April 03 2014 10:14 iamperfection wrote:
Ya I totally forgot why I'm here too. Remember press the button. I have no reason to believe if good or bad things will happen. I just want to see it for the lol's

On April 03 2014 10:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's not chocolate chip cookies.
Do you still want it?

On April 03 2014 10:17 iamperfection wrote:

I always knew you never liked me. I don't ask for much.

On April 03 2014 10:21 iamperfection wrote:

Actions speak louder than words and not pressing the button is like sticking a knife in my stomach

On April 03 2014 10:28 WaveofShadow wrote:

Yeah you've confused me...on LOST it was that they HAD to press the button every so often, or 'bad' things would happen.

On April 03 2014 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:

Let him ask for them himself then.
Even though I still don't have any cookies/candies...what do people think I am, some sort of confectionery?

On April 03 2014 10:37 WaveofShadow wrote:

Oh did I neglect to mention the packaging process?
Yes, each item is custom packaged for its future owner.
There will be bows and sparkles.
It takes a while.

On April 03 2014 10:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did America stop for some reason?

On April 03 2014 10:58 yamato77 wrote:

You should be concerned.

On April 03 2014 11:27 Balla24 wrote:


No reason to take sides, if we have to lynch someone might as well be fair! This way everyone has an equal chance to be lynched! Woo ^_^

(I did not decide I was going to open like this pre-game)

On April 03 2014 12:50 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok, but Guy 2 is a tool then.

On April 03 2014 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But how does the situation differ if the teacher put the problem on a table instead?

On April 03 2014 13:58 IAmRobik wrote:








It was this string of posts

On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote:
Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere.

yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town.

keirathi hello! + Show Spoiler +

gumshoe remarkably overzealous.

everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee.

On April 03 2014 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
JESUS WHATS A GUY GOTTA DO TO GET ON A TOWNIE LIST UP IN THIS BITCH?!?!

Like at first I was like "Meh Palmar thinks I'm scum whatever" when I was catching up but seriously NO ONE thinks I'm town?! What a ripoff. Should we just start voting for me now and get it over with?

On April 03 2014 23:14 IAmRobik wrote:

That's all fine and dandy from your POV, but like -- I don't play that way. So you won't find me sucking up to people and trying to befriend them during the game. I'm gonna be aggressive. I'm gonna take weird fucking stances that no one is going to understand and I'm going to tell you what I'm thinking when I'm thinking it.

As for the first part of what you're saying -- I know mislynches happen, but fuck that. I never wanna mislynch and I never wanna be mislynched.

On April 03 2014 23:19 marvellosity wrote:

I disagree, it's a fine strat.

On April 04 2014 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:

No, that would be beyond stupid.

I think he is claiming to look like hes contributing and sharing knowledge and all that shit but he isnt actually contributing to finding scum which is way more important than power role usage.

On April 04 2014 01:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Maybe he was drown in the shower.

On April 04 2014 01:33 Palmar wrote:

Or maybe he was drive over by a car?

On April 04 2014 02:56 Foolishness wrote:
Everyone's expectations about playing in a crazy game has been met (with the exception of raynpelikoneet who hates his role), but nobody was prepared to brave the amount of spam that such a game caused. With over 60 pages in the thread, the amount of reading to keep up with is phenomenal and often very taxing on the players. /b]This creates a perfect atmosphere for the mafia team to watch the town destroy themselves.

"When a player has to wade through so many posts it detracts from their ability to scumhunt," said mafia expert Ver. "Players get discouraged and often jump to conclusions or miss out on key posts. It also becomes very easy for the mafia to join the chaos and blend in."

For some players, the spammy atmosphere just makes them not want to play the game. This can be especially true of townies, who get bored reading all the spam or just don't want to deal with it. Many people often interpret this behavior as scummy, when in fact the opposite is true. Other townies, such as Balla24, may resort to doing absurd things because of all the spam.

"Honestly, random voting is probably going to work better than having to read this spam-fest," Balla24 said.

It is clear that all the spam has affected Balla24's game plan. When asked if he would be playing different if the atmosphere was better his answer was optimistic.

"Would I be trying hard if this game wasn't so spammy? Absolutely. But I got money to make, drugs to deal, and bitches to lay. I don't have time to read through the spam," Balla24 replied.

On April 04 2014 07:19 Blazinghand wrote:


I know, and this sounds weird but you agreeing with me actually makes me suspicious of you. Like, you're definitely smart enough to know I'm town, but you're also the kind of guy who likes to lynch me entirely for fun even when we're both town and you know it. Ain't that crazy

On April 04 2014 09:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Maybe my bad feels on you will go away...it is still early marvgame.
What's the popular wagon right now? Paperscraps?
What are people jumping on him for exactly? I think something is not right in hurr.

Keirathi, if you get an item from me, what will you do with it?

On April 04 2014 10:20 marvellosity wrote:

I was going to call you confirmed town for exaggerating your own importance until you included the disclaimer

On April 04 2014 10:25 WaveofShadow wrote:

Reaction test

No reason to remove you from da list. I do want to add some more people to it though. I don't have enough right now. Any thoughts?

On April 04 2014 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Don't like robik's style. I can't trust him not to rage-use something in a way it shouldn't be used. I'm aware he's been given a pretty decent ranking and apparently has shown well lately, but I haven't seen it personally so I don't trust him not to be tunnelly-bad town.

Oats with power? lol.

Sandro probably a good addition, yeah.

Sandro, would you like to replace Rayn on my list?

On April 04 2014 11:23 VisceraEyes wrote:

Put Paperscraps on your list. And help me lynch VayneAuthority.

##Unvote
##Vote: VayneAuthority

On April 05 2014 00:51 marvellosity wrote:

This link reminds me that it would be swell if Keirathi could make his way to the thread and piss towniness all over my naked body.

On April 05 2014 02:14 kitaman27 wrote:


Who would you suggest?

On January 06 2013 09:03 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, the next person I want to talk about is Hopeless1der.

I originally sent in my shot on him, instead of tube. Marv hadn't flipped yet, and as a Vengeful Vig, I could only shoot people who were voting on confirmed town lynches. But I went back and did some meta diving on Hopeless, and I'm not quite as sure that he is scum as I was when WBG made the case originally. I think bugs missed a key part of scum Hopeless's mindset compared to his town mindset.

For instance (These are from scum games):

+ Show Spoiler +

Now compare that to his votes/pressure this game:

+ Show Spoiler +

Scum Hopeless is much more decisive and pushy. Town Hopeless, in my experience, is wishy-washy, non-committal, and sheepy.

I think this actually feels more like town Hopeless.

On April 05 2014 02:43 Killing wrote:


The guy claimed horse. I'm not a horse. Are you a horse?

On April 05 2014 02:48 Killing wrote:
Also, I only saw VA claim VE and him were horses. Who are the other horses?

On April 04 2014 10:28 kitaman27 wrote:


No real explanation other than it feels good to vote him.

Tehpoofter and Koshi are my top two bad guys at the moment. I'll likely pursue them tomorrow since I'm heading to bed right now. Suppose I could vote one of them, but don't feel like it.

On April 04 2014 10:46 Paperscraps wrote:
Also for anyone scum reading Tehpoofter, his posts so far are neutral. This is using video mafia meta as a baseline, so probably not to accurate.

On April 05 2014 04:17 strongandbig wrote:


same reason as marv? tone meta?

On April 05 2014 05:14 sandroba wrote:
Also I'm now on the QT with marv, I got a message saying that "the brown" put me there to figure out marv's alignment.

On April 05 2014 06:00 sandroba wrote:
Finally caught up. My reasoning for paperscraps being town is mainly one of the first posts he made in the game, as I've said before, he was the first to reveal his QT and along with it revealed he was suspicious of VE, but didn't disclose the other 2 people in the QT he wasnt suspicious of. That points to town. The whole case on him is that he is writing backwards and change his read from town to null in 6 hours which I don't think point to mafia. People read the thread over and change their minds. Also the current defense of poofer points to town as well in this situation where he is on the chopping block.

I'll look at gumshoe next.

On April 05 2014 06:38 strongandbig wrote:

no dood you dont get the point

there's a difference between "writing a lot" and "making a lot of posts"

if everyone made fewer posts this game would be better
the same is not true for "if everyone wrote fewer words"

On April 05 2014 06:38 marvellosity wrote:
iamp is town, and it's nothing to do with calling me town, it's to do with the fact i have played with him 30 times and i know what a town-iamp looks like.

On April 05 2014 06:46 sandroba wrote:
I actually like his post tbh =P. @marv why is iamp auto town? I'm reading his filter for the 4th time and it does look like HF filter before he started playing the game.

On April 05 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote:
effectively amiko has made a quite weird 3p read on Robik.

and for some reason i kinda trust kita.

On April 05 2014 08:19 IAmRobik wrote:

Meh. Not sure how it works. Maybe there are lost mafia? Maybe he was trying to soft to me to find him. I have no fucking clue cause we don't know what the dynamics are.

I will say that the fact that you finally said what you meant "that's totally what mafia do" instead of just coming out and saying that originally is fucking weird and awkward and I still think you're scum. DIE DIE DIE. If you have a shot, please shoot joey tonight.

On April 05 2014 07:22 gumshoe wrote:


After day 1 I can set an army on anyone at any time, that person dies a day later.

On April 05 2014 09:42 Amiko wrote:
@town
I could move my vote off of gumshoe but I'm your friend.

On April 06 2014 02:55 sandroba wrote:
Apparently noone knows when I'm joking to dodge the bad lynch. Yes I know it was my fault, dammit

On April 06 2014 04:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Keir I know we've been having fun all game and stuff, but I haven't seen any of that ridiculous meta you're supposed to be able to drop....

On April 06 2014 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:

So, nothing so far then?

On April 06 2014 06:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Have a look at syllo/yamato imo.
You are probably way more well-versed particularly in what syllo is capable of than I am.

On April 06 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:

Well so you and I can talk about something else then? I'm also ok with yamato atm.

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?

On April 06 2014 07:05 yamato77 wrote:
Even that is too complicated.

The case on Syllo can be distilled to this:

Read his filter. Does that look to you like one of the best town players to ever play the game?

On April 06 2014 07:05 LSB wrote:

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though

On April 06 2014 07:16 WaveofShadow wrote:

Is syllo worried about not being considered town?
Devil's advocate: mebbe syllo doesn't feel that he needs sandro to know he's town?

On April 23 2014 09:10 geript wrote:

Thanks for letting me sheep you.