Catastrophe Mafia - Page 9

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 19:42 GMT

#2977

On April 06 2014 04:40 Koshi wrote:
WoS who can I shoooooottttt>>>????

I already gave you a list, which you've ignored/taken the opposite idea from for some reason.
Hell I gave you two lists, 'bad feels' and those I think should be eliminated.
Take your pick.

Highest priority for me would be BH/Djo.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 19:44 GMT

#2982

And another thing Koshi. If you think I am most likely to be shot by town (ie you think town finds me scummy or you do yourself) why should you care who I want to shoot?

Hell even if you know I'm town my reads track record isn't usually particularly good. (Not that it prevents me from feeling good about what I've said thus far, but still)

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 19:45 GMT

#2984

On April 06 2014 04:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Foolishness is one of those people that's impossible to lynch but is playing pretty scummily, but a lot of people like his style so they want to keep him alive and would disagree with that shot. I'll read right now while getting drunk and will give you an answer in like 1hr

Not impossible to lynch.
I got him lynched as town in Shadow game lol

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 19:52 GMT

#2988

On April 06 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
oki. But radiation will go up.
And I don't really want to shoot BH.
Hmmm/
Maybe I do.
i shall see.

How does this work with the other people in your QT exactly?
Are they agreeing with you or something?

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 20:04 GMT

#2991

On April 06 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:

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THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. DON'T SHOOT!

Selfish imo.
Shouldn't we be doing what's better for town and not withholding shots on the off chance it makes you vulnerable?
What's in it for the rest of us?

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 20:42 GMT

#2997

On April 06 2014 05:23 Keirathi wrote:

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I don't even know what that means. I dunno where people got the impression that I make meta reads on everybody, but that's not the case at all. I make meta reads on people I've played with enough to be comfortable with their playstyle, or have something specific stick out.

So, nothing so far then?

On April 06 2014 05:22 IAmRobik wrote:

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Dafuq? From my understanding of how the world works, and I have some friends who were born in the small Ukrainian town of Chernobyl, radiation is bad. It has nothing to do wiht me in particular, although, based off of my role PM, as I've mentioned before, it seems that I can't die to night actions, anything that makes radiation go up will probably be the only way that I will die. What if mafia are wearing radiation proof suits and only town can die due to an increase in radiation. Fuck that shit.

If you're being serious here, that's not how GreYMisT games generally work. His 'counters,' whatever they happen to be (ie in this game they appear to be radiation, and chaos) affect different roles in different ways; they have no overarching effect on the group in one way as a whole. In the last Aperture it was 'Fate.'

This is also why I believe the button doesn't actually exist and I will forever not understand why people continue to talk about it until I hear specifically otherwise.

Now as for you being the towniest town that ever towned, you should ask marv what I think when people say stuff like that.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 20:48 GMT

#2999

Eh....I guess I expect more?
No idea where your read on hopeless comes from but I mean your townread of iamp was just supporting marv rather than coming up with something novel I suppose.

I dunno what I want I'm just bored and want to talk with people before I die.
People are never around when I am

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 21:02 GMT

#3005

Have a look at syllo/yamato imo.
You are probably way more well-versed particularly in what syllo is capable of than I am.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 21:04 GMT

#3007

On April 06 2014 05:54 IAmRobik wrote:

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On April 06 2014 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:

On April 06 2014 05:23 Keirathi wrote:

On April 06 2014 04:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Keir I know we've been having fun all game and stuff, but I haven't seen any of that ridiculous meta you're supposed to be able to drop....

So, nothing so far then?

On April 06 2014 05:22 IAmRobik wrote:

On April 06 2014 05:04 WaveofShadow wrote:

On April 06 2014 05:02 IAmRobik wrote:

On April 06 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
oki. But radiation will go up.
And I don't really want to shoot BH.
Hmmm/
Maybe I do.
i shall see.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING. DON'T SHOOT!

Selfish imo.
Shouldn't we be doing what's better for town and not withholding shots on the off chance it makes you vulnerable?
What's in it for the rest of us?

My level of care for what marv thinks about people that say this is 0. I know I'm town. The majority of players know I'm town. So really... IDGAF! BOOM. what now. wut wut wutwu wtuwtwutw

If you don't think i'm town, the down is strong with you my friend

Hey and guess what?
IDGAF if you know you're town. And until you get it through your head that being right about every mafia in every game doesn't mean shit when you can't convince people of anything, there's probably nothing more to say here.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 21:09 GMT

#3010

On April 06 2014 06:05 Keirathi wrote:

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Actually I dont think I've ever played with syllo?

Wait, maybe he was in Chrono Trigger? I dunno, I think that's about it.

I'm okay with yamato.

Well so you and I can talk about something else then? I'm also ok with yamato atm.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 21:18 GMT

#3015

On April 06 2014 06:14 Keirathi wrote:

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Well I'm going to go have another look through yamato's big post about syllo since I kinda just skimmed it while I was at work. Figure out what else you want to talk about while I'm reading!

No u
I've already come up with topics and been posting all afternoon.
I'm bored and want some direction
YOU CAN PROVIDE IT

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 21:29 GMT

#3020

Foolishness, I appreciate the journal and all, but can you comment on something relevant mabes?
Or even just a LITTLE bit of human interaction?

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 21:38 GMT

#3028

On April 06 2014 06:31 Koshi wrote:

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I was testing him. Cuz he was all "amagad mafia will kill me" but then he had no reads for me to shoot.

Yeah, solid test that I picked up on immediately. And for ME to pick up on it, that really says something.
What amazing play from you this game, Koshi.

Ugh.
Dandel cheer me up. Go make Robik mad or something.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 21:47 GMT

#3038

On April 06 2014 06:45 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways I read back through Yam's post on syllo and decided to read syllo's filter again.

And the thing that really stands out to me is just how many times syllo says things like "I don't know if that makes him mafia or not". The whole thing is just...so non-committal. Even when he was "pushing" paperscraps/tehpoofter, he was never calling them mafia, just "they look worse [than amiko]".

Time to go re-read through that hell hole that was Chrono Trigger, I guess

Oh lord, I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I tried to read it in prep for PYP: LoL,
Good luck, and god speed.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 22:09 GMT

#3048

You getting all this Koshi?

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 22:16 GMT

#3051

On April 06 2014 07:15 Keirathi wrote:

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On April 06 2014 07:05 LSB wrote:

On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?

The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though

You're missing the point. It isn't that he hasn't analyzed sandro, it's that he hasn't *INTERACTED* with sandro. If syllo was town, then (as he mentions in the post I quoted) why wouldn't he be trying to convince the person best able to read him that he was town?

*Note: in case it wasn't clear - in CT, syllo was town and sandro was scum.

Is syllo worried about not being considered town?
Devil's advocate: mebbe syllo doesn't feel that he needs sandro to know he's town?

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 22:46 GMT

#3076

On April 06 2014 07:41 Acrofales wrote:
Counting is hard

I'm gonna bet Foolishness' entire post is predicated upon host error lol

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 22:48 GMT

#3081

Is poofter bad?
I get that newbie vibe from him.
Which according to my usual thoughts/reads means we should lynch this fucking guy with fire.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 22:54 GMT

#3086

On April 06 2014 07:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
According to his posts this game he is bad, but I dunno if scum bad or town bad

cba to delve into the depths of badness myself somebody else do it.

But somebody as bad as you should be able to draw out the understanding of badness from the depths of the bad abyss.

WaveofShadow

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April 05 2014 22:55 GMT

#3087

On April 06 2014 07:54 yamato77 wrote:

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Amiko is not mafia based on this post alone.

I believe his claim, though not sure if his reads are wholly accurate about other 3p players. Not worth worrying about, he doesn't seem anti-town, I don't want to lynch/shoot/whatever him.

If he fucks us over I reserve the right to kill him. (Or try, at least)

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