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On April 09 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2014 06:03 austinmcc wrote:
And I really don't think that "he doesn't even know what the majority of it is used for" points in ANY direction. Like...that's irrelevant to alignment, imo.
"Hey guys I used my role so I'm super town and it did super town stuff and now I'm super town kkkk. Also I don't know what a majority of my role is good for. It might be good for mafia! I dunno. But it's townie and I'm townie yum yum."
If you don't know what your role really does, when it's useful, what it's useful for, AND YOU'RE BEING TRUTHFUL about your role, then how in the world can you argue that your role is townie and it's use is townie. You're claiming both to not know exactly what it does AND know that what you're doing is townie townie. What he did is not the main function of his role. His role has another function. Anyway. Maybe he lied. You're right. But I think he was being sincere in our conversation There's a whole chain of questionable crap there then.
Base level - maybe he lies
Next level - he doesn't know what he does
Next level - he argues that he's town for doing one town favored thing as part of his role
If you trust he wasn't lying about his role, that's fine fine. But if he sincerely DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE REALLY DOES OR WHY IT'S GOOD, then it is difficult for me to go "Oh that's great, makes perfect sense he'd argue he's town based on his role." Because IF he's been 100% truthful, he doesn't actually KNOW if he's town-favored apparently. And if he's NOT being truthful, that's just a problem in and of itself.
Like...sincerely not knowing what you do or why it's useful is incompatible with "I did this thing with my role and it is townie so my role is townie so I'm town." Add that to his defense-ish of HF, no bueno.
For instance. You are Robik. How do you feel about that HF defense post? HF probably town because he wouldn't do this anti-town thing as mafia.
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Robik, just more general. Who cares about roles and whatnot. Does Killing's posting read town/mafia, and por que?
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On April 09 2014 06:22 Dandel Ion wrote:
I don't know what the chaos counter stuff does either, and I'm town.
I don't see it as that out of the question~ It's not. Not knowing =/= not town.
Now knowing = unable to legitimately argue "I did this thing therefore my role is town and I'm town."
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Okay, thanks for answering.
For all, I will note that things like "Having townie role and using it in townie way" or just "Using role in townie way" AND "having a ridiculous role PM that simply cannot be made up" are BOTH things that I've used to look town in Greymist games (and other themed games).
Scum with verifiable actions can't really always do anti-town stuff with their roles, because someone will verify or check up on them, and go LOLOLOL YOU SCUM. This isn't true of ALL actions, but it's true of a whole heck of a lot of them. I'm more interested in the actual posting than the role, what I'm arguing about the role is that I believe people are super overvaluing whatever it is they value about the claim, and that Killing HIMSELF should not be able to argue "i'm town based on role" while also saying "I dunno what my role does fully."
If I have a chest full of stuff, I can't go "I am rich because I have so much stuff in this chest" and also go "I don't know what's in this chest or how much it's worth." I AM ON FIRE WITH MOSTLY TERRIBLE ANALOGIES TO WEIRD SITUATIONS THIS GAME.
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On April 09 2014 07:10 geript wrote:
One last thing, Austin I <3 you. Would you like to become my snooglewoogle? If that's a good thing, sure.
If it's a bad thing, probably not.
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sand, you gonna be around D3 assuming nothing nonsensical happens?
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On April 09 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
Jat if you don't shoot lsb i will kill you KILL OR BE KILLED
JAT you also better draw a picture of holyflare as horseyflare, OR ELSE I WILL DRAW THAT PICTURE FOR YOU
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Also, I'm willing to threaten anybody else with silly consequences if they would like.
Also also, amiko, if you're around, care to talk about whether this is real or just supposed to make me curious?On April 09 2014 02:09 Amiko wrote:
Just so you don't have to worry about fake stuff sand-
fog
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I promise not to spawn any pigs tonight.
Also I do not spawn pigs any night, unless someone gives me a pig-spawning item.
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Soooooooooooooooooooooooo.
Someone has a Prince of Darkness role.
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On April 09 2014 10:04 Killing wrote:
ROFL SORRY GUMSHOE Is this the part where you go "Oh, I forgot to mention, but the way my chaos counter reset is balanced is that it also activates a prince of darkness power"
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So the spectre, who can visit people and see what they did, and can report their actions (somewhat) to the thread with a vote.......................
can't visit Killing. If someone were super tunneled on Killing, they would say that this COULD indicate that Killing does Bad Things So Bad That The Spectre Cannot Know Them.
On April 09 2014 10:05 IAmRobik wrote:
Why is it night and how do we kill scum and how do we decrease Radiation? Because host said so, with lynches or shots or other things, and I can reduce radiation a little but there is a cost and I am unsure right now if it's worth it.
I'm interested in results from box-guarding on N2, maybe we can shake something useful out of that?
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On April 09 2014 10:08 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2014 10:07 VayneAuthority wrote:On April 09 2014 10:06 Killing wrote:On April 09 2014 10:05 austinmcc wrote:On April 09 2014 10:04 Killing wrote:
ROFL SORRY GUMSHOE Is this the part where you go "Oh, I forgot to mention, but the way my chaos counter reset is balanced is that it also activates a prince of darkness power" No, my role has "If the spectre visits you, he will dissipate". I didn't know if spectre was good or bad so I didn't tell anyone. You didn't do anything. Once he has placed his vote (or at the end of the 3rd day), the Spectre dissipates and travels to the great beyond. Then where was the lynch if he placed a vote? He would have dissipated last night. It is likely someone, and more likely than not someone scummy, has a power that skips a day. In PYP games it's "prince of darkness," basically a one-shot power to go from night --> night.
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Also, paranoid musing, if this was a power that could be activated early on, I don't understand why scum wouldn't. More dead folks when you have maximum KP is nice.
POSSIBLY looks bad for geript, although we don't know that whatever this is was a N1 usable power, or didn't come from an item, or something else
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On April 09 2014 10:17 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2014 10:13 austinmcc wrote:On April 09 2014 10:08 Killing wrote:On April 09 2014 10:07 VayneAuthority wrote:On April 09 2014 10:06 Killing wrote:On April 09 2014 10:05 austinmcc wrote:On April 09 2014 10:04 Killing wrote:
ROFL SORRY GUMSHOE Is this the part where you go "Oh, I forgot to mention, but the way my chaos counter reset is balanced is that it also activates a prince of darkness power" No, my role has "If the spectre visits you, he will dissipate". I didn't know if spectre was good or bad so I didn't tell anyone. You didn't do anything. Once he has placed his vote (or at the end of the 3rd day), the Spectre dissipates and travels to the great beyond. Then where was the lynch if he placed a vote? He would have dissipated last night. It is likely someone, and more likely than not someone scummy, has a power that skips a day. In PYP games it's "prince of darkness," basically a one-shot power to go from night --> night. Then how did he get his vote in? Once he has placed his vote (or at the end of the 3rd day), the Spectre dissipates and travels to the great beyond. I don't believe he did, unless he has amazingly fast fingers.
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On April 09 2014 10:46 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2014 10:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 09 2014 10:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
lol no that is not my role heh. You forgot the ego/self serving part of my role. Skipping day phase is a team play and is not self satisfying in any way. Yeah I was thinking it wouldn't be your style to flat out lie about not fucking us over. Still though, not following the suspicion on me. Like...I suppose I get that you don't know what's been going on behind the scenes but I dunno I just find it laughable. Considering everything has worked out the way we want it to, why would you assume there is something off with our circlejerk? do you honestly think it is behind the scenes xD I hope for the town's sake that is in jest. There is people paying attention to the game and then there is a small group not paying attention thats about it. Oooh! Which am i?
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On April 09 2014 11:07 IAmRobik wrote:
Austin. On a scale of 1-10, how lonely are you? Unknown.
I am, at the very least (i think), someone's Snooglewoogle
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On April 09 2014 11:11 IAmRobik wrote:
The only reason I had to think you are town is dead. This scares me. I'd expect you to be lonely. WHy aren'y you lonely? If you want to play this game, then we can play 
I'm not sure if I'm lonely or not.
For I am Quetzalcoatl, the Bird God of Thunder. My cloacal protuberances are townie and vast.
Should your eyes seek to gaze upon my protuberances, you could not. They are too vast for your eyes to comprehend. You might discern a fold, a wrinkle, a few hair follicles, but you could not comprehend the enormity of my protuberances with your eyes and your knowledge.
In the same manner, you may look upon a friend of mine, but he is a single friend wrinkle upon my protuberances. There may yet be other wrinkles. Concern yourself not with the wrinkles of my protuberances. For now.
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On April 09 2014 10:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Did the other people guarding the device also get no list back? On April 09 2014 11:23 Paperscraps wrote:
Just got home!
I know 3 people who visited the device last night.
Pretty bummed we didn't get to do cell mafia.
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So I'm marv's cat and geript's direwolf.
And, although I know I need not remind you, a Bird God.
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