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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 00:13 GMT
#2697
It came from:

On April 05 2014 07:22 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 07:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:21 gumshoe wrote:
Hey! If you guys wanna lynch me go ahead, I dont really mind and I do have my hands full with Cell / : if you people have any specific qualms to ask of me go ahead, I'll try to get some reads out before vote : D

My role has a one shot kp after day 1, so if your going to lynch me may as well be today / :

Is it dayvig? Cuz if it is dayvig I don't want you to die.


After day 1 I can set an army on anyone at any time, that person dies a day later.


So he's a poisoner after day 1?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 00:15 GMT
#2705
Also Djo is a 100% tossup. He's jsut flat out not playing the game. I would rather someone waste a bullet on him than waste one of our lynches on him considering it seems that lynches will likely be pretty hard to come by.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 00:29 GMT
#2720
Can we switch to killing BH?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 00:31 GMT
#2724
Can we at least get enough for a lynch then? FFS, 29 minutes to lynch and we dont have a majority.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 00:35 GMT
#2728
With austin, I *think* that makes 15.

We could probably use a vote count though *hint, hint co-hosts*
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 00:44 GMT
#2741
On April 05 2014 09:42 Amiko wrote:
@town
I could move my vote off of gumshoe but I'm your friend.

wat
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 01:01 GMT
#2758
Onoes, I was revealed!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 01:08 GMT
#2770
Alright well, time to afk for a few hours. Be back later.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 18:00 GMT
#2926
On April 06 2014 02:55 sandroba wrote:
Apparently noone knows when I'm joking to dodge the bad lynch. Yes I know it was my fault, dammit

Nuh uh, it was totally my fault.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 20:23 GMT
#2996
On April 06 2014 04:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Keir I know we've been having fun all game and stuff, but I haven't seen any of that ridiculous meta you're supposed to be able to drop....

I don't even know what that means. I dunno where people got the impression that I make meta reads on everybody, but that's not the case at all. I make meta reads on people I've played with enough to be comfortable with their playstyle, or have something specific stick out.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 20:44 GMT
#2998
On April 06 2014 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 05:23 Keirathi wrote:
On April 06 2014 04:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Keir I know we've been having fun all game and stuff, but I haven't seen any of that ridiculous meta you're supposed to be able to drop....

I don't even know what that means. I dunno where people got the impression that I make meta reads on everybody, but that's not the case at all. I make meta reads on people I've played with enough to be comfortable with their playstyle, or have something specific stick out.

So, nothing so far then?

iamp and Hopeless weren't enough?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 20:52 GMT
#3001
I did a lot of research on Hopeless in that game I posted that quote from. Basically when Hopeless does "traditionally scummy" things like sheep wagons, flip flop, be indecisive, etc...it's because he's town. When he's assertive, makes up his mind and pushes a target hard, etc, he's scum.

Although he's really doing neither this game. He's just not playing
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 21:00 GMT
#3004
Wave, since you're here: anyone you think I should take a particularly good look at right now? Someone to get fired up about?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 21:05 GMT
#3008
On April 06 2014 06:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Have a look at syllo/yamato imo.
You are probably way more well-versed particularly in what syllo is capable of than I am.

Actually I dont think I've ever played with syllo?

Wait, maybe he was in Chrono Trigger? I dunno, I think that's about it.

I'm okay with yamato.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 21:14 GMT
#3013
On April 06 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 06:05 Keirathi wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
Have a look at syllo/yamato imo.
You are probably way more well-versed particularly in what syllo is capable of than I am.

Actually I dont think I've ever played with syllo?

Wait, maybe he was in Chrono Trigger? I dunno, I think that's about it.

I'm okay with yamato.

Well so you and I can talk about something else then? I'm also ok with yamato atm.

Well I'm going to go have another look through yamato's big post about syllo since I kinda just skimmed it while I was at work. Figure out what else you want to talk about while I'm reading!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 21:45 GMT
#3037
Anyways I read back through Yam's post on syllo and decided to read syllo's filter again.

And the thing that really stands out to me is just how many times syllo says things like "I don't know if that makes him mafia or not". The whole thing is just...so non-committal. Even when he was "pushing" paperscraps/tehpoofter, he was never calling them mafia, just "they look worse [than amiko]".

Time to go re-read through that hell hole that was Chrono Trigger, I guess
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 21:58 GMT
#3043
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 22:07 GMT
#3046
On April 06 2014 07:05 yamato77 wrote:
Even that is too complicated.

The case on Syllo can be distilled to this:

Read his filter. Does that look to you like one of the best town players to ever play the game?

Also a good point. Marv has said time and time again that if there's one town player on TL that he idolizes, it would be syllo. But this syllo? Yea, not so much.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 22:15 GMT
#3050
On April 06 2014 07:05 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though

You're missing the point. It isn't that he hasn't analyzed sandro, it's that he hasn't *INTERACTED* with sandro. If syllo was town, then (as he mentions in the post I quoted) why wouldn't he be trying to convince the person best able to read him that he was town?


*Note: in case it wasn't clear - in CT, syllo was town and sandro was scum.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 05 2014 22:19 GMT
#3052
On April 06 2014 07:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:15 Keirathi wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:05 LSB wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Don't how how legit is this meta analysis. Can anyone else verify this?

I find it really odd to simply finger someone simply because he didn't really analyze one person out of the other 28. I'll look at his filter though

You're missing the point. It isn't that he hasn't analyzed sandro, it's that he hasn't *INTERACTED* with sandro. If syllo was town, then (as he mentions in the post I quoted) why wouldn't he be trying to convince the person best able to read him that he was town?


*Note: in case it wasn't clear - in CT, syllo was town and sandro was scum.

Is syllo worried about not being considered town?
Devil's advocate: mebbe syllo doesn't feel that he needs sandro to know he's town?

It's possible. I'd rather see what sandro has to say about it, since it only stuck out to me because of what I've heard second hand (and from what syllo said in that post I quoted), but sandro would have more insight.

@sandro: do you think syllo is intentionally avoiding you to keep you from being able to have a solid read on him?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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