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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 14:30 GMT
#5331
On April 12 2014 15:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
I can prove my other power so you can be totally embarrassed though

What is it and how can you prove it
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 16:36 GMT
#5339
On April 13 2014 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dude no flips tonight and changed rad counter.
I only have 2 1 shots.
RIGHT GUYS?

What the fuck that is SO MUCH WORSE

Do not use that ability
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 17:00 GMT
#5343
Balls my post died
Anyway oats having that ability makes no sense with his claimed win condition. It has literally no relationship with it. The following are way more likely IMO:
- oats is scum and one of his teammates has the no flip ability
- oats is scum and has the no flip ability himself
- oats is 3p and lying about the ability to try not to get nk'ed (this one seems unlikely, why claim like the most antitown ability around if you're a 3p trying to get town not to kill you)
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 17:03 GMT
#5344
Oh btw oats if you have to kill Gandalf, did fladnag count or are you claiming there's another Gandalf in the game?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 19:29 GMT
#5367
On April 13 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote:
geript, question.

If scum has a "target player can't be lynched this cycle" mechanic on someone, why do they wait until now to use it? Could stick it on syllo or iamp earlier, possibly save a power of theirs and also keep a KP maybe, depending on numbers. Could stick it on Gumshoe D1, give no flip information, and PROBABLY have gumshoe be the lynch D2. Save it for a townie on a critical day coming up, no lynch, another set of NKs, and we PROBABLY lynch that dude the next day.

Do you think, if you actually work through it, that a buddy/partner/forbidden lover/supplicant/trusted librarian of Oats's would use that power on Oats? ESPECIALLY if snb's bit is legit and he just has one-shot abilities.

my thing doesnt say that oats only has one-shot abilities. I just get to know the number of one-shot abilities that he has. He could have other abilities that are not one-shot.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 20:05 GMT
#5384
What are people's current thoughts about VA and paperscraps? I feel pretty much blank about both of them, which I don't like very much.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 20:07 GMT
#5385
On April 13 2014 05:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:53 austinmcc wrote:
On April 13 2014 04:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
Or Oats had the lynchproof so if he doesn't use it on himself it's wasted.
Or it depends on chaos/radiation
Or or or

it's like you're wasting time on purpose.
Green: (Which is again what I think and I'm trying to understand why Geript thinks that oats does NOT do the lynchproof bit, someone else does)

Blue: Possible, but chaos has been 1 and > 1, so this would be a radiation thing only. Possible.

No color: It may be "like" that, but it ain't.


It's really simple. I don't think I've seen a GM role where they get to do 2 things in one phase. Like we can't used roles and defend; or at least I can't afaik. My last GM role had a couple of things but I couldn't use them both at the same time (sadly because I totally would've done a double lynch and vote rigged Slam/BH to die). Like it's not impossible, but I just don't see it.
Like if Oats were 1 shot lynchproof, I imagine that that would be some kind of item, which he 100% wouldn't have had. Like that's too weird as a 1 shot passive imo. So therefore Oats didn't do it.


If oats actually was telling the truth about being a survivor assassin it would be possible, I think - I don't think any ability where you PM the mods and it happens instantly counts as a normal phase use ability for most greymist roles, since it happens instantly.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 20:13 GMT
#5391
On April 13 2014 05:07 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 04:45 austinmcc wrote:
You thought about past games, about actions per cycle, and why you think someone else did this. But it doesn't seem like you thought "why would they do this with oats", and I'm trying to figure out if you didn't think that through, if you believe something different from me, or if it looks like you're just making crap up for unknown reasons.

Offsite I've seen scum pardoner role a bunch of times. Every time I've seen scum pardon town (except for once), it's always ended up fucking town. That first time, it didn't fuck up scum because it pulled a vigi shot. Plus, I can't think of a game where mid-late game, Scum ever pardoned non-scum. Like ever. It's just not worth the risk. Sure if Oats actually is 3P this is a decent time to pull that out but then we just get JAT to kill him and if JAT doesn't, then we kill JAT too. So I'm not seeing the point.

Either way, I'm still pissed at you and you're still not making sense so I'm gonna be the big spoon. Snooglewoogle you can be the small spoon mmmmk


I feel pretty sure there was a scum pardoner in a greymist game actually, but I couldn't find it on my phone when I tried earlier.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 22:29 GMT
#5416
How could blazinghand die? He was removed from the game and untargetable by anything

And robick protect me palmar or maybe hopeless imo
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 22:33 GMT
#5419
Austin what about ve? He's pretty high on my scum list atm what is your opinion.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 22:34 GMT
#5420
On April 13 2014 07:31 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 07:29 strongandbig wrote:
How could blazinghand die? He was removed from the game and untargetable by anything

And robick protect me palmar or maybe hopeless imo
The post made it sound like something UNDID the resurrection.

Either via scum now having that item, or someone having an item reversal power (possible cough cough towards amiko), or someone having another timeline affecting/power use nullifying ability.

The way bh's power was phrased I'm pretty sure even his past actions should be untargetable, but obviously my interpretation of his power was off.
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 22:50 GMT
#5424
1. If he's town how do scum not kill the claimed dt? I sincerely doubt VE has been protected.
2. I don't agree that he wouldn't have openly said he didn't check oatsmaster, if there's a leak he could have known that I would make his n2 check unstoppable so the only way out of checking oats was to claim "oops I forgot"
3. We did already have at least one dead town cop
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#5425
Palmar read your store plz I need input
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#5426
Also sandroba
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 23:00 GMT
#5427
And we seriously need more out of va and paper scraps, I have them both as ???

Like at least the 3p are invested
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 23:01 GMT
#5429
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 23:09 GMT
#5432
On April 13 2014 08:01 IAmRobik wrote:
SnB, which of the 3p's are not 3p (from your estimation)

Oats for sure
I kind of believe jat just because of the way he claimed, it felt genuine
DI is the bizzarre case of someone claiming 3p because too many people think he's town rather than scum, so I doubt he is scum
Amiko is a weird claim because the powers have nothing to do with the wincon, but he could have some weird button or item related alternate win condition - that seems as likely to me as him being scum

And that's all of the claimed 3p right? I'm on my phone so no spreadsheet
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 23:11 GMT
#5434
On April 13 2014 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 08:01 strongandbig wrote:
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit

He admitted to me it was BS -- not sure if it was a cover up, after the fact, or whether he was being truthful. If Amiko is telling the truth, Scraps is likely to have fabricated the whole thing.

Curious to know if he told anyone something different.

Did he tell you anything about his actual role? Afaik no one has any information about it and I don't like that
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#5435
On April 13 2014 08:10 VayneAuthority wrote:
you can chalk up my inactivity to me basically rolling VT, sorry but I didn't plan on playing a weird game like this just to be a VT. I found a few scum and now I'm just bored while we finish out this game. Thats the plain and simple of it. If something interesting happens and my input is needed then fine.


Don't forget GM has roles sometimes where people become interesting after some event (like Bruce Wayne, who became batman after his parents died)

Anyways, this is the first vt claim, right? So I like it.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 12 2014 23:17 GMT
#5436
On April 13 2014 08:03 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 08:01 strongandbig wrote:
Oh like here's something, I don't think we ever found out what "item" paper scraps was supposed to have day1 or if the bullshit post restriction was accepted as actual bullshit

He admitted to me it was BS -- not sure if it was a cover up, after the fact, or whether he was being truthful. If Amiko is telling the truth, Scraps is likely to have fabricated the whole thing.

Curious to know if he told anyone something different.

Also robick - who do you think is more likely scum between killing and ve?
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