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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 13:07 GMT
#838
On April 03 2014 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 03 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:02 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote:
Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere.

yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town.

keirathi hello! + Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2014 10:11 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 03 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp i don't really think townreading people because of their reaction to obvious joke post was as easy comment is legit.

Uh ok. I use it a ton and I don't really get burned by it. Not really worried about it anyway as Yamato is super easy to read. But lets not try and give iamp advice he kind of knows what he is doing.

But do you know how to bake a pretty cake?
I believe it's a piece of cake, if the way is hazy. I was once told that I had to "do the cooking by the book" and also ordered to "break it down bitch ... drop dat ass down low then pick that muthafucka up"


gumshoe remarkably overzealous.

everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee.

red part: nono. yamato would try to read me as town but he would also "try to read me" as scum. either a lie or a very lazy comment
green part: another good one, or rather.. bad one. yamato's read or "read" is not nonsense. my reads are definitely not nonsense because i already said i am srs. so austin are you calling me a liar? or are you making the same lazy "didn't read properly, didn't think for a second and i admit it, but anyways i am taking a stance" opening post you made in last game?
blue part: how does me thinking yamato is serious make yamato more town? this makes no sense.

best lynch 2014.

I noticed this too and found it pretty strange. But I don't see why it's mafia-strange. austin is prone to making really stupid reads based on nothing (sorry my love). And of all the things to give a townread for, that one seems particularly stupid. So stupid in fact that making it as mafia seems far-fetched, because surely it's going to get you flak.

So while I can agree that the paragraph is poo-poo, you'll have to tell me exactly why it's red poo-poo.

bcz for the one time i have caught mafia!austin red handed and danced on his grave with sebastian i got the same exact feeling from his very first post. Usually i just don't understand him and everything looks the nullest null in the nulland.

That's not doing much for me I'm afraid. Ask austin yourself, I shout at him every game for making reads that make no sense.

It not if he makes sense or not. I can usually see if austin thinks something in his own way, it shines through his posts.
In this post austin does not think, that's why it's mafia red.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 14:06 GMT
#874
On April 03 2014 23:02 IAmRobik wrote:
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On April 03 2014 22:32 syllogism wrote:
Robik your strategy of insulting players who have a mafia read on you is not helpful regardless of your alignment. From what I saw from you in another game, it's a waste of promising talent if this is going to be your approach from now on.

The accusations are absolutely baseless and that pisses me off. People have been trashing on my play and calling me mafia for my style of play since I got here. I'm not gonna instantly convert to the "TL standard" just to appease the masses. If that results in me getting mislynched, then that's the result. But fuck it if I don't go down fighting.

And ANYONE here who is town and gives a shit about winning this game and thinks that I'm mafia, feel free to review my play in Foundations and GSL vs my play in the latest newbie game. I am one of the worst mafia of all time. I fucking lurk. I sit quietly. I am afraid to step out of line. I try to emulate my town play but am terribly unsuccessful and recreating it.

Don't worry Robert. I feel you. Bright people get it. syllogism is bright.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 14:11 GMT
#891
On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
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On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.

Hey syllo. Robik is driven by emotion. You could even say you can take his posts and write "by: raynpelikoneet" below them. People who know his play and try to distract him with bullshit -> make him go emo and insane should be suspicious.

Which leads me to what are you doing Plammer? How does what you are doing help?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 14:15 GMT
#901
On April 03 2014 23:12 Palmar wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.

Hey syllo. Robik is driven by emotion. You could even say you can take his posts and write "by: raynpelikoneet" below them. People who know his play and try to distract him with bullshit -> make him go emo and insane should be suspicious.

Which leads me to what are you doing Plammer? How does what you are doing help?

I am doing many things. Some of them you understand, some of them you don't. I fear most of them you don't.

So in your opinion it's better to:
1) make Robert mad and unreadable to about 80% of the people rather than;
2) let Robert do his thing and see if he makes sense and is town, or if he does not and he is scum??

Do you choose (1)? Because i think that's either really bad strategy if you are town or maybe you are not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 14:16 GMT
#904
Shit Oats so smart!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 14:18 GMT
#910
On April 03 2014 23:16 Palmar wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:12 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:07 syllogism wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:59 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:30 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:19 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:17 Palmar wrote:
On April 03 2014 22:14 IAmRobik wrote:
I hate that Palmar is town this game.


I learned new term in awful foreign land. ROBIK IS TMI-ING PRETTY HARD NOW.

Although I can't verify, not sure i'm town.

TMI = too much info?

Did I TMI when I called you out as mafia instantly? You still give me 0 fucking credit. Fucking pathetic

Initially, you think I'm weak. So you call me mafia.

Then you realize, I am strong. You must try to win my favor.

I am sorry Robik, I don't believe in violence. But we must investigate. Investigation shall be performed using a rope and a tree. I hope this does not come between us.

I mean. If you are town then you're trying to lynch another town, so that's playing against your win-con. I know mine says something along the lines of I win with town.

I don't need to win anyone's favor. I'm not here to make friends. I'm not here to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm here because I like competition and because I want to win. I am town, thus I'm trying to solve the game. I don't think you're a strong player. I was told by Mattchew that you're good, but I didn't see any good town play from you in Foundations and I was able to determine that you were mafia based off of one measly sentence in Heavyweight Champ.

You are clearly smart so you know mafia is a game of incomplete information and thus townie attempting to lynch a townie is unavoidable. So why are you saying something like this? It looks off to me; something a carleess mafia is more likely to say than a smart townie.

As for the rest, the best way to win as either alignment is by making friends, even if just for the duration of the game.

Hey syllo. Robik is driven by emotion. You could even say you can take his posts and write "by: raynpelikoneet" below them. People who know his play and try to distract him with bullshit -> make him go emo and insane should be suspicious.

Which leads me to what are you doing Plammer? How does what you are doing help?

I am doing many things. Some of them you understand, some of them you don't. I fear most of them you don't.

So in your opinion it's better to:
1) make Robert mad and unreadable to about 80% of the people rather than;
2) let Robert do his thing and see if he makes sense and is town, or if he does not and he is scum??

Do you choose (1)? Because i think that's either really bad strategy if you are town or maybe you are not.


You see only black and white, but there is a middle ground.

I am expecting an explanation on scenario (3). Palmar.. rayn does not forget.
Let's say in 24 hours ok?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 14:20 GMT
#916
no we need to lynch austin!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 14:53 GMT
#964
On April 03 2014 23:45 Palmar wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
You have exactly 15 minutes to retract your scumread of me Palmar.

Long minutes or short minutes, also what is your relative speed compared to mine?

My relative speed compared to you is 2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 14:56 GMT
#969
On April 03 2014 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
then why are you questioning him repeatedly over stuff that's not going to lead anywhere? it's so pointless.

hey that's what Holyflare does marv..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:01 GMT
#979
On April 04 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:58 marvellosity wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
marv who are you looking at lynching today? Or is it too early? I've come to grips with the fact that we're not going to agree on D1 lynches. We arrive at our reads differently and it's whatever, I'll deal with it. But I'd still like to know who you're looking at and why.

my lynches are always right though :p

I can hear VayneAuthority rolling in his grave.

That was only because marv failed to lynch himself and i didn't care to write my "why Vayne is town" post because imap decided to not tell people who is really lynched.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:04 GMT
#982
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
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On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:05 GMT
#983
EBWOP:
conclusion; I agree with you snb too early to tell Balla's alignment.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:12 GMT
#994
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

I think Killing is town based on his last scumgame and this game. He was like FROZEN the whole game as mafia. Doesn't look like it at all this time.
You brought up syllo. Do you think sandroba is playing?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:19 GMT
#1007
Oh god Dandel must be town.
So wise!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:21 GMT
#1012
On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi

He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:25 GMT
#1021
On April 04 2014 00:24 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi

He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious.

He couldn't even explain whatever it was he was thinking...

That's not true.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:26 GMT
#1024
On April 04 2014 00:25 kitaman27 wrote:
GreYMisT manipulated me into joining two games at once against my will. Going to focus on the other game until the lynch deadline which is relatively early and then catch up on this one tonight.

On a side note, I don't anticipate using this power unless something thinks of a good application so I might as well share it. I can learn the number of kp used during the night at the expense of increasing the radiation level. I'm not really sure what that does, but that power doesn't seem useful enough to warrant finding out. It does probably mean that there will be a ton of kp floating around though.

Why did you say you can help me if you can't?
That's like lying-
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:34 GMT
#1041
On April 04 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi

He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious.

He couldn't even explain whatever it was he was thinking...

That's not true.

Ok. Tell me.

Just because he is wrong / you think he is stupid and/or saying bad doesn't mean he didn't explain himself because he quite clearly did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:35 GMT
#1048
On April 04 2014 00:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
Very meh on that dandel.

yeah i know i dont expect him to be lynched to day

i do it all for the i-told-you-so cred points.

Hey you know what you should do? Scatter posts throughout the game calling everyone in the game scum and when its post game, just quote those posts for the sick postgame cred. That would surely be a good use of your time.

Isn't that what you usually do?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
April 03 2014 15:44 GMT
#1061
On April 04 2014 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:26 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:24 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:20 Keirathi wrote:
I liked Killing's first few posts. They were carefree and fun loving.

Then he went all weird and nonsensical when he was questioning jat.

Idgi

He thought he found something and got caught in the moment of distraction. Pretty obvious.

He couldn't even explain whatever it was he was thinking...

That's not true.

Ok. Tell me.

Just because he is wrong / you think he is stupid and/or saying bad doesn't mean he didn't explain himself because he quite clearly did.

Well, what did he say then rayn? You seem to know.

He said you caring about the reasoning on one read but not the other is weird.
Then he said you might be scum for it because you could be waiting for someone to give a read that might end up being wrong in the end if they flip scum, you might want to pidgeon hole them into a read that you hope will make them look scummy. You're still my top scum read because of the amount of fluff and the feigning participation you've done.

I think that's a pretty clear explanation to what he thinks.
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