• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:39
CEST 22:39
KST 05:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent8Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues7LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments2Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris70
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 General Discussion BSL Polish World Championship 2025 20-21 September [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group A [IPSL] ISPL Season 1 Winter Qualis and Info! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Is there English video for group selection for ASL
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1357 users

Catastrophe Mafia - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 18:26 GMT
#2291
On April 04 2014 23:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok so I just read Amiko's filter. Its bad.
Show nested quote +
@tehpoofter: I know you are calling Balla a girl in those that post and I remember rereading another game where you did the same thing. Would you share your reasons for pretending to misunderstand his gender? Did it give you any reads or useful information in the other game?

Totally useless and superfluous question that leads to no good answer.
And he just keeps asking people to consider that Paper is scum due to the clearly not role related reversing. I dont understand why he has such strong feelings that Paper is doing it outside of his role makes him scummy. He never ever explains, just states it as fact. He also mentions Balla a fair bit but never gives a read on him which is really odd.

yeah so basically both BH and Amiko want to lynch paper for not great reasons, marv's reason is the only good one.
Man if he was here this would be so much easier.
Fuckkkkkk.


@Oats: kitaman27 replicate his play in Dr. Who (ongoing) game and it was a focus of d1. Tehpoofter is in the same game, so I wanted to see if he was trying to make some deeper play.

About balla I was going to make a read based on where he went, then he subbed out. I don't really think BlazingHand can address why Balla proposed a random vote and give any meaningful information so I didn't bother pursuing it.

I think paperscraps is lying to town. Yes, town can lie to town. But, I think scum is more likely to lie to town.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 18:39 GMT
#2295
On April 05 2014 03:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 03:09 Amiko wrote:
@JAT
I feel Robik is unlikely to be town because he claimed to be immune to nightkills. If he is town, he should want mafia to target him to soak KP.

I feel Robik's claim was not joking for a few reasons, but among them it's because I feel he is a player who is reluctant to fakeclaim. Another reason: it feels more believable since kita also claimed to be immune to nightkills.

So, I feel he is 3p or scum, more likely 3p because I don't think scum would claim it so early.
I don't see why town would claim it at all.

But why would scum/3rd party claim it?


- Mafia deter shots from themselves via this claim from vigis/3p. So, vigis shooting are more likely to hit town.
- 3p same thing; except they probably don't care who dies. (rayn's roleclaim suggested he needed some other 3p though)
- 3p indicates their alignment to prepare to joint win

By the way, pretty much everything I am saying about Robik also applies to kitaman27 and generally, I think.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 18:45 GMT
#2297
I tend to think he is immune because in the only scum game I read of Robik he considered fakeclaiming but then hesitated and ultimately didn't do so. I think that reflects some discomfort with fakeclaiming, so I don't think he is likely to do so d1 when he doesn't have to do so.

Nothing specific I can think of to say about robik/killing right now, sorry.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:24 GMT
#2593
I didn't expect or intend a wagon to form when I voted on paperscraps; there was only one other vote on him at the time. I think that should be clear if you look at my posts - I wasn't pushing the paperscraps lynch, but I was pushing to get attention on him and to try to get responses. I don't believe his reverse-type claim, so it seems like a play for attention. But, when people question him he doesn't really respond, so it feels like he is just encouraging town to waste its time.
His posts feel random and he ignored the questions I asked him, so I think he's a good lynch if only because I feel he is lying and wasting time.

I feel pretty comfortable thinking Robik and Kitaman are third party roles for reasons I've laid out.

I'll try to read and respond to points made earlier, but since it takes a while to get through thread any direct questions would be great.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:25 GMT
#2594
(And yeah, they could be scum, but it seems clearer to me that killing 3p isn't very helpful in a heavily themed setup)
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:28 GMT
#2597
@Holyflare:
I can't deny there's a chance he's scum, but I think he's 3p. From how my role works, I think I have the best chance if town/3p works together.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:35 GMT
#2605
I'm not willing to put my full role yet. It's something I'll consider, but I'll say this:

I am immune to night kills (though I might be able to die at night... I'm not entirely sure).

This is one of the reasons why I believed Robik's statement that he was immune, and similarly for kita's. I felt disclosing it was anti-town because if I kept quiet about it, I could potentially soak bullets.
However, I think town loses much from me admitting this, because if I'm a lynch candidate I probably won't be night killed (at least by mafia). You can potentially confirm this part of my claim if there's a vigi.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:37 GMT
#2606
EBWOP: I don't think town loses much
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:38 GMT
#2611
I don't think pursuing paperscraps is scummy and it's weird to me that you think it is. The suggestion I've been somehow sure on paperscraps because I think he's lying is a misread of my posts. I do think he is the best lynch.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:44 GMT
#2625
On April 05 2014 08:37 justanothertownie wrote:
The problem is confirming that part doesn't confirm your alignment and we would be wasting a shot.


I suppose this is correct, but I do think it serves to confirm my intentions. If you look through filter, you can see that I focused on both

On April 05 2014 08:39 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:38 marvellosity wrote:
are you claiming 3rd party, Amiko?

answer this now pls


Respond to my post. I'll give you till :Idon'tcare. If you think my reasons make sense, then say it. If you don't, say that. I'll respond to you after that.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:46 GMT
#2629
@marv: We have an hour, I don't feel rushed. You have time to collect votes on me or move off of me.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:52 GMT
#2639
If you're set that's fine, but I'm glad to keep talking.

@people in thread
If I understand it, the main reason you are pushing on me is that I voted for paperscraps. Do you think the way that I voted for paperscraps reflects an intent to gather information or to push a lynch?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:57 GMT
#2646
Fine.
I'm 3p. I want to work with town.
I feel like I hinted at my alignment pretty consistently and practically claimed it anyway when I said I have a power similar to Robik & kita, who I also feel are 3p.

I think you could have used this push to get reads on some of the players pushing my lynch if you backed off the demand for an alignment claim and talked with each other. But, I guess I not in a position to criticize play in this game.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 04 2014 23:59 GMT
#2649
I am usually reluctant to claim 3p because it means that I basically just have to do whatever town says the rest of the game.
Maybe that's good in this case since I am not very invested in the game.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 05 2014 00:02 GMT
#2656
Yeah. But I don't benefit from seeming like the default lynch tomorrow. I have every interest in reducing mafia KP.
I'm not the lynch today, that much is obvious. But there are active players in thread and your only concern is my alignment when I'm not even the lynch today. It feels weak.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 05 2014 00:08 GMT
#2675
On April 03 2014 08:58 GreYMisT wrote:
I would like to remind the players that you may talk about what is in your role PM, but you may not directly quote it.


Modified survivor. My night action can be learning if a player has an item and taking it, if possible. I have a one shot that disables all item use and swaps items among players (1 for 1). I can protect myself at night (and no one else).

About the robik comment, I thought he was likely 3p and I figured he would notice that and assume I am also 3p from it, then send me something back to joint. But I don't blame him for giving it thread attention, it probably was a liability.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 05 2014 00:08 GMT
#2676
I'll note I didn't have to post that, but I did it for the cred.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 05 2014 00:09 GMT
#2680
On April 05 2014 09:04 Keirathi wrote:
The whole "Guarding the button" bit seemed genuine and like it maybe has something to do with his role?


It was fluff. :3
But I do think it's dumb that no one is willing to talk about the device.
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 05 2014 00:10 GMT
#2685
@Wave:
I don't think I have any incentive at all to use the 1-shot... ever. Maybe if you give me a bomb that will explode I will shuffle items
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
April 05 2014 00:13 GMT
#2696
@holyflare
I actually was intending to visit his item tonight to take the item because I don't believe it reverses text.

Plus, if we all lynch paper, then the item will go to a random person who lynched him which I think would be hilarious.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
MNW 22
SteadfastSC607
TKL 498
IndyStarCraft 273
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 607
TKL 498
IndyStarCraft 273
UpATreeSC 102
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 3023
Mini 443
sSak 41
Rock 37
Counter-Strike
fl0m892
Stewie2K813
pashabiceps544
Foxcn469
Super Smash Bros
PPMD118
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu575
Other Games
Grubby4230
FrodaN1392
ToD264
KnowMe230
Hui .198
C9.Mang0172
Sick140
OptimusSC27
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2200
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 199
• musti20045 42
• davetesta13
• Adnapsc2 8
• Dystopia_ 4
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22286
Other Games
• imaqtpie1445
• Shiphtur369
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
13h 21m
BeSt vs Alone
Queen vs Bisu
PiGosaur Monday
1d 3h
OSC
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
3 days
BSL Team Wars
3 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
4 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
BSL Team Wars
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21: BSL Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.