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On April 16 2014 11:02 sandroba wrote: Basically it comes down to this: sandroba snb paperscraps killing geript? vayne? amiko? ve jat Now here is the deal. jat pretty much has to be sk at this point, reason being I held the ring for a lot of nights and he never took a shot on me. Also he went ahead and shot into town tonight, I think it's a safe assumption. The reason for him acting now is probably town being constrained on lynches and not able to act. Also amiko may very well be mafia, not doing what he was suposed to do to prevent town from getting back the res item. VE pretty much has to be mafia, not producing a single useful check in 5 nights he has had to act and being a complete non presence in the entire game. I agree that we make me and snb both top positions. Now on priorities of who we should kill, definitely jat first since we need to reduce the kp urgently. Ok. Here's the thing Sandroba. You are giving nothing here. You're town reading people you've been town reading since D2. It's time to explain those reads. On top of that, you have me as a big question mark. How is it that you still haven't bothered to try and read me. Why are you scum reading VE? Like explain anything here. | ||
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On April 16 2014 10:40 strongandbig wrote: i counterpropose we put sandroba as top and me as second I don't trust Sandroba. He hasn't done much and has checked out of this game. Austin said in the Cult Of ABBA QT prior to initiating me that: "Sandroba is a GIANT LURKER as scum and a... Good townie as town. He's doing jack all this game and that makes me dislike his butthole." I agree. There's been nothing that Sandroba has done that really impresses me. He's not really doing shit now and he's a phenominal player who can easily solve the game but isn't. Plus, he's not dead. Plus, Keirathi's meta read on Syllo (re:not trying to decipher Sandro's alignment) applies equally to sandro (not really trying to figure out Syllo). Like come on town... Let's finish strong. Don't puss out. Today we kill JAT. Like nothing of what he's done makes any sense to me right now. After that, IMO we look at Sandro VA VE and Killing. If you're town, be active. Be town go back and read. Let's discuss thoughts. Etc. I totally came in and Prome'd up this thread. I deserve to win this one. Come on here folks. Let's finish this out strong. | ||
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On April 16 2014 18:39 justanothertownie wrote: Let me show you guys what happens if you lynch me: Right now the situation is probably: 4 town, 3 scum, 2 3P You lynch me -> 4:3:1 Scum gets 2 nightkills -> 2:3:1 Amiko wins with scum - town lost, gg. Does anyone still think lynching me is a good idea? Well congrats - you are scum then. 4:3:2 unlikely. 7 scum starting? You pretty clearly have killed someone last night. Probably random kp from either side still out. I'm guessing we may have something as simple as 6:1:1. | ||
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On April 17 2014 00:44 justanothertownie wrote: Like, I can't put it any simpler: There were 3 kills. Even if you assume that I am responsible for one of them that leaves 2 for the mafia (like they had the nights before). The easiest explanation is therefore that there are still 3 scum left. Unless someone wants to claim one of the shots. Why can't 1 be from town? | ||
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On April 17 2014 02:12 justanothertownie wrote: Are you dense? EVEN IF I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR ONE OF THE NIGHTKILLS YOU LOSE IF YOU LYNCH ME. Jesus. Also, you are lying or misremembering. The night you roleblocked me 2 people died. The night S&B rbed me noone did. Nope, you're right I'm misremembering. I RB'd Oats the night there were no kills. But S&B still claimed a RB on you then IIRC. Minor difference. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:28 justanothertownie wrote: This is getting ridiculous geript. 1) Calling me scum is basically admitting that you haven't read the thread or my filter once. 2) It seems like you are just doing everything to get me lynched/you change your reasoning for doing so all the time. You aren't reevaluating, you are frantically looking for different reasons to lynch me. 3) If I was scum that would mean there are 5 (!) scum left and town has already lost. 1) No. I haven't read your filter. I don't need to. You have somehow failed to kill anyone that you've been asked/told to kill. N2 I roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N3 S&B roleblocked you... hmmm ok. N4 you supposedly kill oats who is immune still. N5 you did nothing? That's bullshit. Last night you killed someone; likely Dandel because he wanted to kill you. If you killed Palmer or Austin then you definitely didn't have permission to kill them. The thing is you've either been lying about being roleblocked or lying about who you've been killing. I find the latter far more likely. So because you're playing anti-town, then you're most likely scum. It's possible that you're not, but unlikely. 2) No, my reasoning expands as time goes on. You've been 100% worthless. I 100% think you're lying about not attacking last night. The deaths don't add up. I thought you were lying about Oats RB'ing you, apparently he was just immune; plus your role claim (3P survivor that requires to kill insane people) makes 0 sense. Like that's a super odd, hard to believe role especially when your KP has only targeted town aligned players. 3) WTF? Are you honestly trying to spout this shit? No, 1 KP was from you. I didn't RB you, afaik no one else has claimed an RB on you. There were 3 deaths when there have reasonably consistently been two for a while now. So no, there aren't 5 scum. At most, there are 3 scum. Quite frankly, we're at the point in the game where the people who we've slowly been putting of, need to be lynched. You're not town and you're not helping so we kill you. It's that simple. | ||
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On April 17 2014 03:33 strongandbig wrote: I mean, jat *could* be scum, i just think ve is a safer bet for it I disagree heavily. Killing is a far better bet than VE. | ||
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On April 17 2014 04:42 sandroba wrote: To be honest I have you as townie geript, but I'm just afraid that you might be a hero mafia that is putting in a lot of effort. That's mainly because of the LSB shennanies and now you are somehow trying to sell me as mafia. If you can guarantee jat is roleblocked tonight then I'm okay killing VE instead. The whole deal about jat is the following: He is either telling the truth, in which case he didnt try to kill me on the couple nights he wasnt rbed and amiko is lying to us about his ability. In that case if jat manages to kill me tonight we possibly lose 2 townies plus jat leaves the game which means tomorrow is lylo is VE isnt the last scum. If he is lying and VE isnt the last scum, we can possibly lose 2 townies and town is put into kingmaker position tomorrow chosing between who wins amongst sk or mafia. What I'm saying is that if jat can't be rbed we need to kill him today. As for explaining my reads I wont bother as those are pretty self explanatory if you look at the events of the game. The only one I could possibly be wrong about is killing, but he's kept his story straight and I trust the meta read from paper. So bottom line is if you can rb jat we kill ve, otherwise we kill jat. Look I'll be honest on the LSB thing. I didn't think he was mafia. I think there were lots of points that pointed to that, but I thought his paranoid post was pretty insightful. I hadn't read the thread (HF specifically) to know if he was actually being insightful or just scum shitting on town. It was a decent read based on the information I had. No on corrected the "HF wasn't ever really paranoid" point so I stuck to my guns on it. Like I read pretty fast, but I can't pick up 200 pages pretty quick and I never bother trying to read HF because, quite frankly, as far as I'm concerned he's best called scum on PoE rather than things he's done. Either way, I'm pushing you for solid reasons. You've been pretty inactive as of late and you really struggle to keep up with activity/wanting to play as scum. You hadn't, as far as I can tell, been trying to decipher Syllo's alignment. IIRC, you had 1 question towards him (i think re:paperscraps read) and 1 comment on him (i think re: not doing shit other than random stuff then scum). Austin feels/felt the same way. I can't share his QT and I don't think I can invite anyone to the QT. As far as being "hero scum," I have a really hard time doing that. Like I really, really struggle to post as scum. Right now, I'm doing what I have been doing the whole game: trying to find scum and pushing who I feel is scum. I would've prefered VE to check Killing like I asked him in thread and in QT, but the night before I had asked him to check austin. I don't hate the austin check per se. I don't think VE is scum; I can be wrong there. Here's the thing, I think Amiko is 3p. I personally find it highly unlikely that there are 3 3P in this game and if there were, then it's almost assure that there's only 5 scum. I think it's much more reasonable to lynch JAT and roleblock VA or VE rather than going a different path because I can see world where both VE and VE are town and because I can see a world where JAT is scum (despite my vote count analysis). Here's specifically what I want from you Sandro. I want your reads and your reasons for your reads. Moreso, reasons for why you find people to be town. I have a hard time right now seeing Killing as town. Paper has a townread on him and I trust Paper, but I'm not sure on it. | ||
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Confirmed Town Confirmed Scum Confirmed non-Town + Show Spoiler [Vote Counts] + On April 03 2014 09:09 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 0 On April 04 2014 01:35 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 16.5 IAmRobik (0): LSB (1): VisceraEyes yamato77 (1): Holyflare austinmcc (1): kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion VisceraEyes (0): Balla24 (3): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, Palmar Not voting (23): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 05:56 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 21 IAmRobik (0): LSB (1): VisceraEyes yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB austinmcc (0): kitaman27 (1): Dandel Ion VisceraEyes (0): Balla24 (2): iamperfection, Oatsmaster, marvellosity (2): Palmar, raynpelikoneet Not voting (22): IAmRobik, austinmcc, Paperscraps, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, yamato77, Tehpoofter, kitaman27, WaveofShadow, strongandbig, Amiko, Killing, Balla24, syllogism, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Djodref, Foolishness, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 17:54 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 34 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness Holyflare (4): sandroba, marvellosity, Dandel Ion, yamato77 LSB (0): Paperscraps (2): Blazinghand, yamato77 (2): Holyflare, LSB kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (2): VisceraEyes, Oatsmaster gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (1): kitaman27 Blazinghand (2): iamperfection, marvellosity (2): [s]Palmar, Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Tehpoofter, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 04 2014 23:27 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 39.5 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, kitaman27 Holyflare (3): sandroba, LSB (0): Paperscraps (7): Blazinghand, yamato77 (1): kitaman27 (1): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): VisceraEyes, gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (1): Not voting (12): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Koshi, Hopeless1der, strongandbig, Killing, syllogism, justanothertownie, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 06:02 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 46 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (2): Foolishness, Holyflare (2): LSB (0): Paperscraps (13): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): kitaman27 yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (0): gumshoe (0): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (0): Not voting (9): IAmRobik, austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Hopeless1der, Killing, Djodref, sandroba, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 08:15 LoneMeow wrote: Hour 48.25 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (12): Blazinghand, Amiko (3): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (0): gumshoe (6): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (1): marvellosity (0): Not voting (5): austinmcc, VayneAuthority, Djodref, gumshoe, Keirathi On April 05 2014 09:48 Acrofales wrote: Hour 49.75 IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe (16): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref On April 05 2014 10:03 GreYMisT wrote: Hour 50 Day 1 vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness, Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Amiko (1): yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe (17): Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref Reduced Day 1 vote count: IAmRobik (0): iamperfection (1): Foolishness Holyflare (0): LSB (0): Paperscraps (8): Blazinghand, Tehpoofter, Oatsmaster, iamperfection, Palmar, LSB, kitaman27, VayneAuthority Amiko (1): IAmRobik yamato77 (0): Tehpoofter (1): syllogism kitaman27 (0): VisceraEyes (0): VayneAuthority (1): gumshoe gumshoe (17): sandroba, strongandbig, yamato77, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE Dandel Ion (0): Blazinghand (0): marvellosity (0): Not voting (1): Djodref Ok so this is updated now. Here's some points that weighs in your favor (sandroba) on VE being scum. 1. No one jumped on the VE wagon. Minor but fair considering how scum tend to be trying to pile on to push weak lynches. The problem with this is that Palmer was on and off the wagon pretty quick. Even still he got a free pass from flipped scum. 2. VE ends up on the "right" wagon at the end of the day. Three confirmed scum end up on paperscraps; one on Banks. It's unlikely that they'd end with 4 or more scum on paperscraps. 3. Oats soft pushes the VA lynch all day based on VE's points. VE never really makes a good case on VA being scum 4. Oats soft defends VE at points. 5. VE never really explains any read/reason for LSB. Points in my favor: 1. Oats jumps from BH to VA to Paper. If VE is scum, he's essentially jumping from a back to back scum vote to another back to back scum vote. That's pretty odd to me. So yah, I can see a reason for killing VE. The problem is that if he's town, then we will still need to lynch Killing and JAT. Killing is the only other person, imo, who could find out Wave's role (wizard). I still think he's town. I can't really explain it. Call it feels if you will. That said, if we're going to lynch him today, then I want a 100% promise that we just call it #YOLO lurker lynch and then proceed to assume he's town and scumhunt from there. | ||
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On April 17 2014 06:16 Killing wrote: Wow geript, you really wanna kill me. That's not cool bro No, you're just on my list of people I want to kill. JAT is at the top. You, Sandro and VE/VA are in there too. I'm pretty sure that only 1 of VE/VA can be scum. Looking at Oats filter, that's more likely to be VE but I don't think that's in any way definitive. Things are just kinda in flux as I read more after doing my online class work. | ||
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