On April 08 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote:
if jat killed foolish there are then 3 scum kills, that means there are 5-6 scum only, we killed 2 so there are 3-4, originally we assumed there was 7 or 8 in which case we'd be against 5 or 6 scum now.

VA knows the amount of people in a scum team this game.

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Maybe I mafia tried to test my claim and tried to kill Koshi?

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 02:58 GMT

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On April 08 2014 11:56 Holyflare wrote:

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lynch va with fire

But like LSB and shit

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 17:02 GMT

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Sandro,

Am I still saving who we discussed previously? Is anyone else saving that person?

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 17:18 GMT

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On April 09 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:

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What an interesting question robik

Oh ya?

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 19:25 GMT

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##look for a gun

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 20:14 GMT

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Killing should not be doubted at this point. He could have just been making up random shit when we were PMing back and forth, but that would have taken a mighty imagination on his end

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 20:16 GMT

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I was curious about Joey's fascination with the horsies too, but after the pm game, it made a bit more sense.

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 20:54 GMT

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On April 09 2014 05:42 austinmcc wrote:

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I've joined 200+ page games before, big themed ones, and a Greymist game in Chrono.

I know the feeling, and also, btw, it's impossible. You'll never catch up, you have to play going forward. Especially since you're missing PM stuff that I wasn't in those games.

But I'm making the point for everyone, that wasn't specifically at you. I'm happy to catch you up on what I've done, but I'm not saying "Hey Geript, Killing is wonky/scummy/lying/blah blah." I don't believe, in general, that he's town and I don't believe, in general, that he's truthful about his role being OH YA HALP TOWN MANY HALP KK

I take it that you don't trust me when I tell you that the stuff we PM'd about makes me really doubt that he would be scum. I just don't see how his role would be scummy, as he doesn't even know what the majority of it is used for. And the questinoing of horsies kinda makes sense

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 21:07 GMT

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On April 09 2014 06:03 austinmcc wrote:
And I really don't think that "he doesn't even know what the majority of it is used for" points in ANY direction. Like...that's irrelevant to alignment, imo.

"Hey guys I used my role so I'm super town and it did super town stuff and now I'm super town kkkk. Also I don't know what a majority of my role is good for. It might be good for mafia! I dunno. But it's townie and I'm townie yum yum."

If you don't know what your role really does, when it's useful, what it's useful for, AND YOU'RE BEING TRUTHFUL about your role, then how in the world can you argue that your role is townie and it's use is townie. You're claiming both to not know exactly what it does AND know that what you're doing is townie townie.

What he did is not the main function of his role. His role has another function. Anyway. Maybe he lied. You're right. But I think he was being sincere in our conversation

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 21:25 GMT

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On April 09 2014 06:18 austinmcc wrote:

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There's a whole chain of questionable crap there then.

Base level - maybe he lies
Next level - he doesn't know what he does
Next level - he argues that he's town for doing one town favored thing as part of his role

If you trust he wasn't lying about his role, that's fine fine. But if he sincerely DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE REALLY DOES OR WHY IT'S GOOD, then it is difficult for me to go "Oh that's great, makes perfect sense he'd argue he's town based on his role." Because IF he's been 100% truthful, he doesn't actually KNOW if he's town-favored apparently. And if he's NOT being truthful, that's just a problem in and of itself.

Like...sincerely not knowing what you do or why it's useful is incompatible with "I did this thing with my role and it is townie so my role is townie so I'm town." Add that to his defense-ish of HF, no bueno.

For instance. You are Robik. How do you feel about that HF defense post? HF probably town because he wouldn't do this anti-town thing as mafia.

I'm pretty sure you can know you're town and still not know what the nature of your role abilities are. Like, if he made up the part that he "doesn't know" then he's a complete nutjob and has a fascinating imagination and I'm just gonna defriend him, cause he might just be a fucking crazy person that will try to find me and kill me IRL.

IAmRobik

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April 08 2014 21:27 GMT

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On April 09 2014 06:22 austinmcc wrote:
Robik, just more general. Who cares about roles and whatnot. Does Killing's posting read town/mafia, and por que?

I already talked about Killing previously. He was town!killing at the beginning. Then I switched my read because of the horse talk which dominated his filter. Then pms happened and our skype chat made the whole thing make a bit more sense, plus he's been a bit more townie, and if he didn't lie to me about whatever he did at the end of day, then I don't see how it could be bad that he used his power on LSB -- that guy is almost certainly scumerino