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On April 03 2014 09:37 prplhz wrote: what makes you read me as town gum? i have never seen a scum straight up afk without actually not being there so i think ceph actually just hasn''t been around. pretty null. I tunneled Rayn for eternity before talking to steve, not going to make that mistake again. Does that make me scummy? | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:37 prplhz wrote: what makes you read me as town gum? i have never seen a scum straight up afk without actually not being there so i think ceph actually just hasn''t been around. pretty null. Hmm maybe you are town, it's possible that you and Geript are fighting and ceph realizes that'll go on so long as he doesnt play. Also I never said I read you as town, I said it's likely enough that it's worth waiting to see what Ceph has to say. | ||
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On April 03 2014 09:44 prplhz wrote: meh what made your opinion on me change? I realized that though Geript should have a good idea of your alignment, that doesnt make you asking him to check out how you usually plays scummy. | ||
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On April 04 2014 00:57 Steveling wrote: Yes but that's coming from your perspective, as someone who knows rayn and before I went mad with the oath thing yesterday. I can't flip now on ryan and expect you guys to believe I'm town. And I would be fine with that if this was a normal setup since you would have my reads and the people who jumped on me as potential scum but we will lose my cell if you lynch me so I have to try my best and not give up. If this was a normal setup my last post in this game would be from yesterday. So I'm trying to figure out why ryan did what he did only to find out that you veteran guys have preconceived notions about ryan. I feel lost and confused. Also sad. Hug pls. No, that comes from the position of any town, there is no way Rayn is scum anymore T_T his play cannot be explained from a scum perspective and you all thought he was town before the play. Yet you've focused on him, not me, if I was in your position the first thing I would do is say "cmon man, this guys full of shit" I'd also like to point out that I made the life oath to you, not Rayn and you didn't care at all XD I understand if you still might think im lying, I very well might be(it is a game of lies after all) but it didnt even give you pause, because the group was going exactly how you wanted. There was no reason to consider new info, which is also why when I responded to your big point against me you ignored me (which is why I came back with that plea )  Its the same reason why Mdern didnt give a shit when I called him town. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:37 Steveling wrote: Well first of all, for a top ranked mafia player as you described your ability, you managed to contradict yourself in these 2 lines. I don't know what to say, you constantly seem to either not understand my simple posts or not want to. As for your actual question, you are asking me something that will reflect bad on the hosts depending on my answer and I think I blamed them enough. I think I already answered multiple times why I would be mad over this. Read my filter from yesterday if you are still not sure about my reasoning. Honestly, it's not the fact that you were mad thats dumb, it's the fact of who you were mad AT. Like, you should KNOW I'm scum the moment Rayn flips on you and yet you attack him for bieng dumb instead of getting pissed at me for doing something cheap. I also dont like how you present it as cheating, is it cheating if I'm scum? No, 100 times no, it is a lie and one that is available it's only cheating if I'm town. Yet you assert thats exactly what it is... | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:44 Palmar wrote: How is this true? Why should he know that? Steve doesn't understand for some reason why the flip makes rayn almost guaranteed town but if we accept that his train of thought about "rayn used terrible logic to clear gumshoe, thus rayn must be mafia" is what he's thinking, there is no reason he should know you're mafia. Rayn is scum. Things are going his way. Everyone thinks hes town. Why switch his stance? That occured to me moments after I read his swap and I've been tunneling him all game. Steveling is not an idiot. The correct right and only sensible play in that situation is to double down on me. Because whats scummy, changing your stance when things are going entirely your way? Or lying? But he directs his anger at Rayn because he is not trying to read the game, he is trying to survive his cell. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:50 Palmar wrote: In fact, seeing as you thought all yesterday gumshoe that rayn is mafia, how on earth does it make any sense that suddenly he's confirmed town? Ive explained my reasoning. A huge cornerstone of my case was that Rayn will interpret everything I say as scummy no matter what, that has proven not true and I cant see why Rayn would flip flop when things are going his way as scum. | ||
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On April 04 2014 01:51 Palmar wrote: The host has made his decision and I already said what I thought of it. Your alignment is irrelevant here. I didnt ask that, I asked if I am scum am I not allowed to tell any lie I please? Isnt that what I am supposed to do? | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:02 Steveling wrote: Listen gum and holyflare. What's done is done, the poor hosts probably want to commit suicide reading this game and it's partially my fault. If it makes you feel better thinking than I'm scum and my oath-anger-burst thing was a smoke screen pls do so. But stop discussing it further pls. I will ask anything I want, you can choose to ignore it if you like but just because you and plamar conveniently dont want to talk about doesn't mean it's going to disappear from the thread. | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:06 Alakaslam wrote: What the ...? What did I miss? I bet my life on a game of forum mafia and Steve claimed scum. | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:08 Palmar wrote: I don't care if you keep pushing this bullshit I'm policy voting you. Go ahead, clearly you cant read me at all, which is why were here in the first place. | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:08 Steveling wrote: Did I give the impression yesterday that I did not want to talk about it? lol I was the one that brought it up. It's just wrong to talk about the semantics of this anymore. Of course you brought it up, because you felt cheated of your scum victory : P now thats it's working against you that sooner it's gone the better right? | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:14 Steveling wrote: How is it working against me, stop making stuff up. Prplhz already said that my burst was legit and now he thinks I'm town. Slam the same. You are lying. There we go! This is how it should have been right off the bat if you werent actually scum : P | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:18 Steveling wrote: Well, that doesn't matter prplz because I think I will after all. Why is gum sheeping so hard that retarded case? Why is he making stuff up? Why doesn't he even for a moment question my anger when even ryan asked me why I was getting mad about it. I don't know if I should trust holyflare and palmar on their townread on ryan but gum has it a bit too convenient. Don't know, guys, share thoughts pls, am I crazy? 1: Because my entire case on Rayn was that he will contantly turn everything I say against me, if he was scum he had already won his cell. The only reason he would change his opinion is this "ive played many games with Gum, and I dont think hes a total piece of shit, so hes proablly town, sigh" therefore if Rayn is town, your scum to me by default. 2: Lol 3: Scum has already won thier group without lifting a finger, townie says some cheating bullshit that changes the other townies mind, how dare they!? Thats not even remotely fair! How does that reaction NOT fit scum ? | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:23 Steveling wrote: Also, why did gum jumped ship so fast, so effortlessly when couple pages back he was practically begging me to take his side? We played one more game together gum, I was scum and I was under pressure. Did I scum slip that hugely in that game? Because my mistake, if I'm scum, is just pants on head bad not just bad. Do you think I'd make that kind of mistake? Answer honestly pls, I am still not sure about you/raynkoshi. 1: I jumped ship because my case on Rayn was invalidated, your reaction was shit, and rayn had no reason to do what he did as scum. 2: That is what I am saying yes, you were pissed that such a little thing in your eyes could mean the difference between victory and defeat after you had sold the on the fence townie perfectly. I truly believe that. | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:29 Steveling wrote: Mods I tried my best but they don't let me, sorry. So, gumshoe, you don't think what you did is cheating at all? Personally? I do, I was frustrated, I'd put a lot of effort into this game and yet I cant count the amount of people who have called my arguments outright shit and ignored what I've had to say. I just got really pissed that you werent hearing me out and was utterly desperate, was it against the spirit of the game? Yes, it was. But it felt justified when I did it ) : This setup is really frustrating because it feels like theres scum right in front of you and all you have to do is play your heart our and prove it T_T and I was really upset to find out that I just couldnt do that. To find out I'm really not that good at mafia. Still, none of that changes the fact that In a game where townie seals are outright banned, I do personally feel its cheating. That only aplies though if I'm town, which I am. If I'm scum its a lie like any other, and you cant fault scum for bieng scum. Thats why I am suspicious of how you immediately assumed I'm cheating / : to me that looks you know I'm town, despite all your sentiments to the contrary. | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote: i thought i was bad gumshoe. balla i gave my order, i don't care that much, ~rayn Turns out I was ) : what you did doesn't make sense as scum and goes against my argument. If I want to entertain the notion that my reads are driven by reason I am forced to concede that my case on you was wrong ) :. That said you totally misread me as well, so if you want we can be bad together : P | ||
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On April 04 2014 02:54 Steveling wrote: Ahh, you make sense finally. But I'd be angry whether I was town or scum. Believe me or not, that's up to you. I'm not gonna swear, that's for sure. You are presenting your reaction to me as null, even if thats true, Rayn's reaction could not have come from scum unless he was playing completely sub optimal. Presenting yourself as null is not good enough. I know one of you is scum, do you understand why I have trouble believing you over him? If were both somehow town, you gotta convince me how what Rayn did makes sense from a scum perspective. Cause I honestly cant see it T_T | ||
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