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On April 03 2014 23:18 prplhz wrote: i don't think that scum steve would ragequit only to come back again right away and not ragequit at all
This is baseless because he could get pm'd about a modkill, he could be in a qt where they tell him to come back and push rayn, he could be anything.
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On April 03 2014 23:24 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 23:20 Holyflare wrote:On April 03 2014 23:18 prplhz wrote: i don't think that scum steve would ragequit only to come back again right away and not ragequit at all This is baseless because he could get pm'd about a modkill, he could be in a qt where they tell him to come back and push rayn, he could be anything. i completely disagree with this if you're scum and you ragequit, i think you're thinking "i'm going to ragequit now because of this and that" and then you ragequit. and then you actually ragequit. as town it's more of a spur of the moment thing "man fuck this shit i'm leaving" but then you think it over and it doesn't take any longer to decide not to ragequit than it does to decide to ragequit. and the host pm comment is pretty lulz
Which is identical to what happens as scum but instead you have people telling you to return so have more incentive. Hence your post was worthless.
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On April 03 2014 23:34 Steveling wrote: As I explained, I was the most green player.
I was so green that when gum proposed me as mayor couple people were like "whatever, ok". That's why he was afraid. And if you go back to ryan's filter you will notice that he did that mental gymnastics with gumshoe exactly when I was in the mayor talk, which I didn't even want to, as I said I have no experience as mayor.
Pay attention pls, if they are scum, they know that I am town. And I was not 100% with them against gum which means they could very well lose the cell, right? It also explains his fixation on getript.
Don't forget that while they made some good points about gumshoe, he doesn't have a valid point against getript(besides getript's very early weird posts which are not enough for the heat he's receiving by rayn imo).
And I'm getting down to my previous point, the majority didn't thought of him as town.
We are 15 players. Gum, getript and per my hypothesis, me, were against him, minus him, that's 11 players left. From these 11 coal and ceph were lurking. That's 9 left, from these 9 mderg, sentinel, slam, lsb, poofter and balla did not, I repeat in bold and if I'm wrong pls uses quotes from their filters, did not have yet an opinion on ryankoshi. With the power of logic we can deduce that 9-6=3. Me+gum+getript=3 as well.
I feel so bad in this game, I'm getting punished because I got mad at a fundamentally wrong mafia play that I think is cheating. Ryan still refuses to show any semblance of coherence whatsoever, I'm busting my head reading filters all day trying to come to logical conclusions and I'm getting fos'd.
Anyway, do we agree holyflare now that the majority didn't find him town at that point? Do we agree that I was greener than a Peter Jackson prairie film shot?
Do these 2 points make my argument about ryankoshi's 180 feasible at all?
How is the bolded true at all? You also can't include yourself in the anti rayn train or mderg BECAUSE YOU TWO ONLY SWITCHED TO RAYN AFTER HIS SWITCH.
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You also don't factor in that ANY of those players are scum and if rayn was scum would instantly side with rayn??
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On April 03 2014 23:59 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 23:40 Holyflare wrote:On April 03 2014 23:34 Steveling wrote: As I explained, I was the most green player.
I was so green that when gum proposed me as mayor couple people were like "whatever, ok". That's why he was afraid. And if you go back to ryan's filter you will notice that he did that mental gymnastics with gumshoe exactly when I was in the mayor talk, which I didn't even want to, as I said I have no experience as mayor.
Pay attention pls, if they are scum, they know that I am town. And I was not 100% with them against gum which means they could very well lose the cell, right? It also explains his fixation on getript.
Don't forget that while they made some good points about gumshoe, he doesn't have a valid point against getript(besides getript's very early weird posts which are not enough for the heat he's receiving by rayn imo).
And I'm getting down to my previous point, the majority didn't thought of him as town.
We are 15 players. Gum, getript and per my hypothesis, me, were against him, minus him, that's 11 players left. From these 11 coal and ceph were lurking. That's 9 left, from these 9 mderg, sentinel, slam, lsb, poofter and balla did not, I repeat in bold and if I'm wrong pls uses quotes from their filters, did not have yet an opinion on ryankoshi. With the power of logic we can deduce that 9-6=3. Me+gum+getript=3 as well.
I feel so bad in this game, I'm getting punished because I got mad at a fundamentally wrong mafia play that I think is cheating. Ryan still refuses to show any semblance of coherence whatsoever, I'm busting my head reading filters all day trying to come to logical conclusions and I'm getting fos'd.
Anyway, do we agree holyflare now that the majority didn't find him town at that point? Do we agree that I was greener than a Peter Jackson prairie film shot?
Do these 2 points make my argument about ryankoshi's 180 feasible at all? How is the bolded true at all? You also can't include yourself in the anti rayn train or mderg BECAUSE YOU TWO ONLY SWITCHED TO RAYN AFTER HIS SWITCH. That would be a good question if you hadn't read my posts. I said that it was a hypothesis of mine, ryan was afraid of me turning against him so he had to fos me. I even explained that in my calculation Show nested quote +We are 15 players. Gum, getript and per my hypothesis, me, were against him, minus him, that's 11 players left. Honestly I don't like how you keep talking for him. You guys made a big deal about mderg standing up for me but here you are swallowing his spit.
I have no idea how you can be so far removed from thread sentiment to believe the nonsense you are spouting. Even if you are mafia.
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I think it's fairly obvious me and palmar are trying to get to the bottom of your alignment.
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No because me and palmar explicitly state we think he is town? I don't get how you aren't seeing this...?
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On April 04 2014 00:44 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 00:30 Holyflare wrote: No because me and palmar explicitly state we think he is town? I don't get how you aren't seeing this...? Yes I got that, what I'm questioning is the way you did it and how this oath shenanigan absolutely didn't weigh at all in your judgment.
Because it's rayn and he does that all the time and i weighed up why he would switch like that as mafia or town and the mafia reasons equate to looking more towny and the towny reasons are much more abundant
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On April 04 2014 00:47 Steveling wrote: So what are you saying to me. Are you saying I should dismiss that oath ploy and count him town? Imagine yourself in my position, what should I do as town? Honest question.
Realise that this makes gumshoe even more likely to be scum.
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How can you be mad that 1 person in the game changed his read when you just implied nobody thought he was town in your case?
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It's not recycling. You made an entire case that was based on rayn being scum and not being town read by a majority of people in the thread. So why would you still be angry that someone you think is now scum and had nobody town reading him switched his opinion of someone?
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You clearly vote for me. The person nobody is scum reading who isn't in a contestable group who wants to follow town consensus.
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On April 04 2014 01:37 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 01:26 Holyflare wrote: It's not recycling. You made an entire case that was based on rayn being scum and not being town read by a majority of people in the thread. So why would you still be angry that someone you think is now scum and had nobody town reading him switched his opinion of someone? Well first of all, for a top ranked mafia player as you described your ability, you managed to contradict yourself in these 2 lines. Show nested quote +You made an entire case that was based on rayn being scum and not being town read by a majority of people in the thread. Show nested quote +why would you still be angry that someone you think is now scum and had nobody town reading him I don't know what to say, you constantly seem to either not understand my simple posts or not want to. As for your actual question, you are asking me something that will reflect bad on the hosts depending on my answer and I think I blamed them enough. I think I already answered multiple times why I would be mad over this. Read my filter from yesterday if you are still not sure about my reasoning.
I fail to see how i contradict myself. I'm merely pointing out YOUR contradiction.
You think nobody is town reading rayn. YOU think he is scum. So why would YOU be mad when he switches his mind? Unless you are actually conceding that your whole case was wrong?
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On April 04 2014 01:50 Steveling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 01:43 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 01:37 Steveling wrote:On April 04 2014 01:26 Holyflare wrote: It's not recycling. You made an entire case that was based on rayn being scum and not being town read by a majority of people in the thread. So why would you still be angry that someone you think is now scum and had nobody town reading him switched his opinion of someone? Well first of all, for a top ranked mafia player as you described your ability, you managed to contradict yourself in these 2 lines. You made an entire case that was based on rayn being scum and not being town read by a majority of people in the thread. why would you still be angry that someone you think is now scum and had nobody town reading him I don't know what to say, you constantly seem to either not understand my simple posts or not want to. As for your actual question, you are asking me something that will reflect bad on the hosts depending on my answer and I think I blamed them enough. I think I already answered multiple times why I would be mad over this. Read my filter from yesterday if you are still not sure about my reasoning. I fail to see how i contradict myself. I'm merely pointing out YOUR contradiction. You think nobody is town reading rayn. YOU think he is scum. So why would YOU be mad when he switches his mind? Unless you are actually conceding that your whole case was wrong? Show nested quote +When did I say that no one had him town read, omg, I feel like everyone is trolling me for some reason, lmao. I merely said that not everyone had him town read, so he had reasons to be scared of me. That's what I said. We are 15 players. Gum, getript and per my hypothesis, me, were against him, minus him, that's 11 players left. From these 11 coal and ceph were lurking. That's 9 left, from these 9 mderg, sentinel, slam, lsb, poofter and balla did not, I repeat in bold and if I'm wrong pls uses quotes from their filters, did not have yet an opinion on ryankoshi. With the power of logic we can deduce that 9-6=3. Me+gum+getript=3 as well.
By your logic only 3 people town read rayn and 3 scum read. After rayns switch mderg also called him scum. So that's 4-3.
So why would you be mad that the guy town read by a minority switches and calls you scummy?
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On April 04 2014 02:02 Steveling wrote: Listen gum and holyflare. What's done is done, the poor hosts probably want to commit suicide reading this game and it's partially my fault. If it makes you feel better thinking than I'm scum and my oath-anger-burst thing was a smoke screen pls do so.
But stop discussing it further pls. Um no because your group is most likely first.
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On April 04 2014 02:22 prplhz wrote: Fuck knows
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