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getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 20:04 GMT
#1094
On April 03 2014 05:02 Palmar wrote:
Also, 10k post coming up! Need to go figure out something fun.

You should probably call me scum in it because that's always fun.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 20:54 GMT
#1119
Rayn. You around?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 20:56 GMT
#1122
On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep

~rayn

Explain your townread on prplhz.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 21:01 GMT
#1125
On April 03 2014 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 05:56 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep

~rayn

Explain your townread on prplhz.

He hasn't done anything scummy, has more good posts than usually and has reasonable reads.

~rayn

So outside of me which of those reads have been reasonable in your opinion? After you snap respond to this next go back and find the good posts you liked and explain why you liked them.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 21:06 GMT
#1128
On April 03 2014 06:05 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 06:01 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:56 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep

~rayn

Explain your townread on prplhz.

He hasn't done anything scummy, has more good posts than usually and has reasonable reads.

~rayn

So outside of me which of those reads have been reasonable in your opinion? After you snap respond to this next go back and find the good posts you liked and explain why you liked them.

really, the burden of proof is on the accuser

sigh
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 21:56 GMT
#1145
The guide to reading Geript!!! MUST READ GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO

+ Show Spoiler [Summary of prplhz's reads] +
On April 02 2014 04:35 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 04:25 Balla24 wrote:
So @prplhz are you saying it's likely that we mislynch when lynching into my cell? In that case why would you want us first, we'd just be starting 0-1?

no, the players in your group are the players i don't think we will benefit a lot from having around a lot. none of you are famous and reliable scum slayers and you seem kind of scummy [edit: in general but not yet in this game]. we just give it our best shot and then that's it. lynching into group rayn would be silly because rayn looks more and more and he's also a reliable scum hunter that we'll want to have around for more than 48 hours. same with groups 1,2,3,5

On April 02 2014 05:22 prplhz wrote:
i think getmoript is acting a lot more confident in himself than he should be. can anyone tell me if he usually is like this?

On April 02 2014 05:26 prplhz wrote:
that i'm not very comfortable with you so far. it seems like an act that you're so sure of yourself.

On April 02 2014 05:38 prplhz wrote:
it's hard to believe that anyone can be so full of bullshit as getmoript and still be so confident in themselves without it being an act

On April 02 2014 05:55 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 05:52 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 02 2014 05:44 getmoript wrote:
On April 02 2014 05:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##unvote

~rayn

esplain
~g

You claimed scum.
I can aswell see if someone else wants to claim scum and not do what the wants to, you sure won't.

~rayn

a "blow me town" level scum claim?

On April 02 2014 05:57 prplhz wrote:
i agree it's horrendously dumb but that really doesn't mean that he's scum.

On April 02 2014 06:14 prplhz wrote:
okay gumshoe confirmed for not reading the thread
On April 02 2014 07:32 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 07:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I totes made geript his post readable for you.

ps. I love how active you are.

yes but he didn't, he completely ignored me and i had to ask 3 times. strikes me as scummy that he doesn't want to make his own post readable.
On April 03 2014 02:19 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 01:29 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:25 mderg wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:18 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:16 mderg wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:13 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:10 mderg wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:05 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:03 mderg wrote:
On April 03 2014 00:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
mderg,

Could you provide some reads? You entered the thread with a very generic statement. how do you read:
raynpelikonoshi
gumshoe
Steveling


raynpelikonoshi - likely town
pushing different cases, logical reasoning but a bit too much focus on gumshoe


gumshoe - scummy
90% focused on rayn, only based on a "trap"

Steveling - neutral
It seems towny to me that he was unsure about gumshoe when filtering his posts(why would scum be unsure).
but after saying that people should focus mostly on their own cells he basically made one filter post about both and then continued to watch them battling



Why would I go all out to defend you if I'm scum? Are you an idiot? What do I gain? And of course I'm focused on Rayn, I know hes scum and hes leading town by the hand, wouldnt you be attacking him if you knew that too? That also hasnt stopped me from going after Holy and others, who do you think is scum in your cell

You did go all out to defend me? I didn´t see it that way. Also you could get towny points, if I get lynched and flip town.


I´m leaning towards Tehpoofter mostly because he tells about the perfect scum strategy and then continues to play exactly opposite to that. This seems a bit too good.


Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.



We seem to have a different take on going all out, then


Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.


I said you were 100 percent town, then proceeded to attack Holy, thats pretty all out. if I am scum I am playing insane and sub optimal when all I have to do is watch you get rolled. Why? What makes Rayn town? The fact that hes good at the game? Hes always good XD.


There was already quite some pressure on you, though(still much less than now). So hypothetically defending me could give you town points when I flip green. Or I would be an easy kill, if you get lynched on day1.


Sigh, your really over thinking it, in Cultured I had a similar all out green read on a player called Mocsta, I just think your town bro, why ya gotta hate me for it T_T also I understand there are reasons to do what I did, but the negatives are

1) instant ire of town

2) easy point for scum to jump on

3) doesnt help me at all as scum, because as you said, I am more likely to know your alignment if I'm scum, therefore there are no realy lynch benefits.

The only real reason I'd defend you is because I dont want you to get lynched / :

i thought mostly scum were on your back?

and now that your main scum read suddenly lets you go as his main scum read, you go "nice, i'm afk now LOL"

i swear on my life that gum is scum

can we please get over this dumb shit, gum has been theatrical all game and i don't know why you would put this beyond him

On April 03 2014 04:09 prplhz wrote:
this sucks wtf

steve probably scum


On April 03 2014 05:43 prplhz wrote:
i'm toying with the idea that steve is town


The issues I have with Rayn can be pretty easily summed up with his responses here:
1. Rayn and I know each other pretty well as players. He always ends up with a good read on me for solid reasons both in forum and in video. He knows how to read me as town; I don't know how much he personally buys into Prome's 100% way to read me, but that logic has been what I've seen him using to read me. So when Rayn posts the following, it really should attract attention for everyone:
On April 03 2014 06:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 06:01 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:56 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep

~rayn

Explain your townread on prplhz.

He hasn't done anything scummy, has more good posts than usually and has reasonable reads.

~rayn

So outside of me which of those reads have been reasonable in your opinion? After you snap respond to this next go back and find the good posts you liked and explain why you liked them.

Reads on our cell are good. I like the evolution and while prplhz doesn't really explain it (he never does and yes, it's annoying) i can kinda see where he is coming from. I like his read on you.
~rayn

On December 04 2013 20:29 Promethelax wrote:
geript starts with all the tough guy posing, its interesting to note but not all that important right now. Its something to remember though as its clearly a persona gerpit is putting on. Reasons for both scum and town to do this.

geript hard defends Rayn d0 and really puts his foot down about it. He takes a hard stance which I rather like. Its odd, everything I'm seeing seems to objectively point to scum but I don't find it convincing. There is something in how geript is thinking that seems silly but not scummy maybe? I can't explain it right. He is ringing all the scum bells but it feels like he is ringing them for the wrong reasons. He has all this ill founded bravado that I [i]think would be hard for him to do as scum. He is very in your face and it seems townie.

If he's read prplhz's stances on me, he specifically should have warning lights going off in his head that I'm probably town. Specifically here:
On April 02 2014 05:22 prplhz wrote:
i think getmoript is acting a lot more confident in himself than he should be. can anyone tell me if he usually is like this?

On April 02 2014 05:26 prplhz wrote:
that i'm not very comfortable with you so far. it seems like an act that you're so sure of yourself.

On April 02 2014 05:38 prplhz wrote:
it's hard to believe that anyone can be so full of bullshit as getmoript and still be so confident in themselves without it being an act

Rayn is clearly not bothering to actually evaluate his reads in this game. This IS NOT his town play. In this setup, he as town would want to avoid mislynches at all costs and Rayn liking prplhz's read on me here would 100% give him cause to concern.



2.
On April 03 2014 06:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 06:01 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:56 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep

~rayn

Explain your townread on prplhz.

He hasn't done anything scummy, has more good posts than usually and has reasonable reads.

~rayn

So outside of me which of those reads have been reasonable in your opinion? After you snap respond to this next go back and find the good posts you liked and explain why you liked them.

Reads on our cell are good. I like the evolution and while prplhz doesn't really explain it (he never does and yes, it's annoying) i can kinda see where he is coming from. I like his read on you.

~rayn

Rayn stating that he likes prplhz's evolution is complete scum bullshit. Other than the balla read (which was later corrected to be a non-read), there really isn't a true evolution of reads. Rayn knows that the scum often lurk and allow others to "fill in their thoughts" so him giving prplhz a 100% town pass for prplhz's posts is complete bull. As town, Rayn could and would follow up with what prplhz meant at those points. Furthermore, Rayn states that he likes prplhz's read within (Rayn's) pod. Which ones? Why? First he's on Scumshoe; next he's on Scumeling; next he's on Stowneling maybe. The bottom line here is that prplhz really hasn't had scumreads this game; he's been following the thread sentiment a decent amount and Rayn is 100% giving this guy a complete pass. Rayn doing this as town is pretty unthinkable to me. Rayn stating that he actually likes prplhz's mostly non-existent and definitely unexplained reads is even more mindnumbing.
On April 03 2014 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 05:56 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep

~rayn

Explain your townread on prplhz.

He hasn't done anything scummy, has more good posts than usually and has reasonable reads.

~rayn

Where are these non-existent reads? Seriously read prplhz's filter and tell me he has a bunch of reasonable reads that he's making. They're really not there. Raynpelikonoshi is specifically lying about this!!!!!!


Rayn has clearly not read prplhz's filter prior to me asking him about him. He's clearly spewing stuff of the top of his head here and all of it is 100% fabricated.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 22:02 GMT
#1147
No, I'm ignoring Steveling because honestly I don't know what to make of him and I'm hook line and sinker on Rayn being scum here.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 22:09 GMT
#1152
On April 03 2014 06:38 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 15:01 getmoript wrote:
On April 02 2014 04:08 prplhz wrote:
i think it would be a great idea if people mainly focused on their own cell. that doesn't mean that you shouldn't tell the thread if you have reads on other people but if you are unfocused it makes very good sense to look at your own cell simply because you have a 50/50 chance there.

On April 02 2014 04:09 Balla24 wrote:
That's silly. You still have to vote to lynch within the other cells...

On April 02 2014 04:11 prplhz wrote:
hmm yea. that's right.

I've already brought up the odd point on prplhz's opener, but in rereading I really don't like this interaction. Unlike Banks (poofter) I don't think that focusing primarily on your cell is a scummy strategy. Like I like the point that prplhz brings up in the first post, but it feels really weird for Balla to correct him and then prplhz to instantly drop it. Like I personally 100% support people trying to get a read on the people in their cell so that they can actually make associations and sheep another semi-confirmed townie's opinion for whatever the current lynch is if they feel lost. It's really odd to me that prplhz just drops it like this


I really don't understand what you are getting at here, you seem to think i'm scum and that this post is the one that you didn't like, but what you write here focuses mainly on prplhz and an interaction I had with him instead of on what I said. Can you elaborate on why my "correction" there is scummy in your eyes?

No when I was rereading last night I've been coming around to some extent on you being town. The "weird thing" to me isn't you correcting prplhz, it's the fact that he has this idea that he seems to like and instantly drops it when it gets "shit on." That looks really really odd to me; it goes along with how townies tend to present ideas and have a 'stick-to-it-tiviness' about believing in them. There's no evolution of how to make his idea better; there's no rebuff of, "This is specifically for if people are lost and not a focus only on your pod" type of post. It's really weird to see an idea, especially one that has merit like that, just instantly dropped.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 22:18 GMT
#1155
On April 03 2014 07:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 07:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Like geript can you try to form one read that's not pure shit?

~rayn

I mean, you can't really think someone is going to buy that "rayn should call me town therefore he is scum" shit?
You can't possibly think someone is going to think i am mafia because of it, especially when that's your 1 of 2 reasons and the other reason is "this other dude in my cell should not look townier than me" which is basically the same thing.

~rayn

TOWN i WANT TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAR HERE
Point 1 is not: Rayn isn't calling me town, therefore he is scum. Rayn specifically stated that he and I quote, "like his (prplhz's) read on you (geript)." The point is specifically that Rayn in anyway at any point reading prplhz should have and would have (if rayn were town which he is not) points that prplhz has brought up that are heavily indicative of my town meta.

Point 2 is not: prplhz should not look townier than me. Point 2 is based on the fact that Rayn is clearly not looking at specific players for specific reasons which he usually does. He's specifically reading the game differently than he does as town and therefore Rayn is scum.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 22:21 GMT
#1156
On April 03 2014 07:12 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
And speaking of reads geript. You have one scumread (me) and one townread (gumshoe).
Both of the reads are based on bad reasoning. Apparently you have a scumread on prplhz (noone knows why).

Do you really think it's fair for you to call prplhz out for not having any reads? Because to be honest you don't have many reads and the few you have are based on bad reasoning.

~rayn

TOWN i WANT TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAR HERE
Yes, I personally think prplhz is scum. There's a lot of odd stuff in his filter. I can still be wrong here. My case on rayn is not in any way to try and incriminate or throw shit at prplhz. My case on Ryan is on Rayn. I don't think prplhz here is town but honestly I can't be sure because Ceph is an MIA jerk as far as I'm concerned.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 22:31 GMT
#1159
On April 03 2014 07:11 Balla24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 07:09 getmoript wrote:
On April 03 2014 06:38 Balla24 wrote:
On April 02 2014 15:01 getmoript wrote:
On April 02 2014 04:08 prplhz wrote:
i think it would be a great idea if people mainly focused on their own cell. that doesn't mean that you shouldn't tell the thread if you have reads on other people but if you are unfocused it makes very good sense to look at your own cell simply because you have a 50/50 chance there.

On April 02 2014 04:09 Balla24 wrote:
That's silly. You still have to vote to lynch within the other cells...

On April 02 2014 04:11 prplhz wrote:
hmm yea. that's right.

I've already brought up the odd point on prplhz's opener, but in rereading I really don't like this interaction. Unlike Banks (poofter) I don't think that focusing primarily on your cell is a scummy strategy. Like I like the point that prplhz brings up in the first post, but it feels really weird for Balla to correct him and then prplhz to instantly drop it. Like I personally 100% support people trying to get a read on the people in their cell so that they can actually make associations and sheep another semi-confirmed townie's opinion for whatever the current lynch is if they feel lost. It's really odd to me that prplhz just drops it like this


I really don't understand what you are getting at here, you seem to think i'm scum and that this post is the one that you didn't like, but what you write here focuses mainly on prplhz and an interaction I had with him instead of on what I said. Can you elaborate on why my "correction" there is scummy in your eyes?

No when I was rereading last night I've been coming around to some extent on you being town. The "weird thing" to me isn't you correcting prplhz, it's the fact that he has this idea that he seems to like and instantly drops it when it gets "shit on." That looks really really odd to me; it goes along with how townies tend to present ideas and have a 'stick-to-it-tiviness' about believing in them. There's no evolution of how to make his idea better; there's no rebuff of, "This is specifically for if people are lost and not a focus only on your pod" type of post. It's really weird to see an idea, especially one that has merit like that, just instantly dropped.


Sorry, still a little confused if you could help me out here. What exactly does that have to do with me in that case, since the reason you brought it up was because you thought I was scum?

No the reason I brought it up is because I think prplhz is scum. I thought you were scum earlier because of post at the bottom of the page ~14 that I saw while working that I didn't really like. When rereading, it didn't seem as bad and nothing you had written to page 20 or so had stood out to me and nothing you've written since then (when I picked up where I left off) really bothered me.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 22:42 GMT
#1161
I have. But you called it shit logic remember? You know just like how my Toad read was shit logic despite the fact that your scum read on Vivax was 100% the same thing in mspaint mafia.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 22:51 GMT
#1165
Because you never fucking listen regardless of your alignment. I don't have the time or energy to try to get you to stop and listen. Now that you're obviously scum I don't give a fuck what you think because you're just going to play to what your win on is and it isn't lynching scum.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 22:54 GMT
#1168
On April 03 2014 07:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Same town!geript who was so sure of Holyflare being mafia that he got so mad he got himself modkilled?
Are you serious, same guy doesn't give a fuck about 100% mafia defending another mafia.
See my problem with geript people?

~rayn

Why do you think I thought you were scum in the first place? Why do you think I made my first case on you AND prplhz being scum together and listing you as defending him and included that as part of you scum meta. Like seriously, why'd you have to roll scum this game instead of towning it up with me?
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 23:01 GMT
#1171
On April 03 2014 07:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
But yea, whatever. I'll go watch a movie and wait for the other game to start.
I don't like asking same question five times.. It makes me mad.

~rayn

Maybe if you ever stopped to read what people have written you wouldn't keep asking.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 23:04 GMT
#1173
On April 03 2014 07:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
But yea, whatever. I'll go watch a movie and wait for the other game to start.
I don't like asking same question five times.. It makes me mad.

~rayn

Oh and think about what people wrote too you know because that's important too. But you know, that's for the next game when you roll town and I roll scum.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 23:26 GMT
#1179
On April 03 2014 08:12 prplhz wrote:
@getript

i'm really slow and all so please bear with me if i'm asking dumb questions.

you read me scum, but you read rayn scummier because he doesn't agree with you on your read on me?

Yes I read you as scum. Not wholly sold on it but that is what it is.

No I do not read Rayn as being scummier than you because he doesn't agree with me on my read on you.
I read Rayn as scum for different reasons. That specifically was my point in asking Rayn about you. The conversation went like this:

Geript: Oh so scummy scummy, please enlighten us with your townread on the scummy prplhz
Rayn: Oh scumript... why you so scummy. Prplhz hasn't done anything scummy yet, he's totes got lots of good posts and I like his reads
Geript: Dear Scummaster, please enighten us dumb town on what those good reads prplhz had the great supertowny posts he has made.
Rayn: Prplhz is totes town for his reads on my group (Rayn/Gum/Steve); I really like his evolution of reads in this group specifically. Plus his reads on Scumript are totes towny.
Geript: Post case on the everywhere where prplhz has called anyone scummy AND questions prplhz has made regarding Townript meta. See all these points that prplhz has made; Prome called me towny for these points. Rayn is quite aware of this meta and has used this meta to read townript from scumript in the past both on forum and in video. ScumMaster is clearlly bullshitting here because TownRayn would've looked at the points prplhz has made and been far less sure about it being Scumript vs Townript.
Geript: Point 2: TownRayn wouldn't also not have slept of prplhz because he hasn't, despite what Scumrayn wants to point out, been clearly town.

Oooh I'll make a picture case of it when I get back from work to make it 100% clear.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 02 2014 23:34 GMT
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Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 03 2014 00:52 GMT
#1198
On April 03 2014 09:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I'll go through everything with Koshi tomorrow. I think we have a lot of shit on the table already as we are only 24h into the game. geript i try to explain my read on prplhz for the last time and if you are town you gotta stop this shit and start paying attention.

Until tomorrow i'm off.

~rayn

Oh Rayn, master of shit logic. Please come back and bless us with your brown sun again. May the yellow rain never fall again on this town and bless us with your steaming pile of wisdom.
Hydra of geript and Cavalinho
getmoript
Profile Joined March 2013
1016 Posts
April 03 2014 02:08 GMT
#1203
You really don't need to read it all. Like he's super conf mafia. He'll just look at how he completely twists my case on him into something that isn't even recognizable.
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