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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 16:22 GMT
#927
On April 03 2014 01:01 gumshoe wrote:
I mean, my cell is pretty much the most transparent, we havent heard enough from sent or coag to vote Plamar, I dont trust Holy as far I can throw him and no other group has been open enough for a confident vote (except Geript's maybe) why not vote steve? Does a single person here think hes scum?


Who the hell says we trust steve? You've made the last 20 pages a shit fest that say nothing other than talk about each other and you never ever consider Steve, who hasn't really done anything at all other than filter and come to conclusions already drawn.

Vote me for mayor. I listen to town consensus . If i go against town you can lynch me. Let's stop this shit of i should be mayor because I'm so town or he should be mayor just cz my read so gd. Vote me, end of all this mayor talk.

Find scum outside of your cell!

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 16:26 GMT
#933
On April 03 2014 01:23 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:01 gumshoe wrote:
I mean, my cell is pretty much the most transparent, we havent heard enough from sent or coag to vote Plamar, I dont trust Holy as far I can throw him and no other group has been open enough for a confident vote (except Geript's maybe) why not vote steve? Does a single person here think hes scum?


Who the hell says we trust steve? You've made the last 20 pages a shit fest that say nothing other than talk about each other and you never ever consider Steve, who hasn't really done anything at all other than filter and come to conclusions already drawn.

Vote me for mayor. I listen to town consensus . If i go against town you can lynch me. Let's stop this shit of i should be mayor because I'm so town or he should be mayor just cz my read so gd. Vote me, end of all this mayor talk.

Find scum outside of your cell!





Im not voting you 0_0 your scum.


Regardless of if I'm scum or not (I'm not) i will follow consensus. If i don't i am claiming scum and you gwt - 1 scum and then you confirm yourself as town because you are a tool who has been pushing me for no logical reason. Why would you not do that???
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:21 GMT
#963
On April 03 2014 02:19 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 01:29 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:25 mderg wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:18 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:16 mderg wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:13 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:10 mderg wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:05 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 01:03 mderg wrote:
On April 03 2014 00:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
mderg,

Could you provide some reads? You entered the thread with a very generic statement. how do you read:
raynpelikonoshi
gumshoe
Steveling


raynpelikonoshi - likely town
pushing different cases, logical reasoning but a bit too much focus on gumshoe


gumshoe - scummy
90% focused on rayn, only based on a "trap"

Steveling - neutral
It seems towny to me that he was unsure about gumshoe when filtering his posts(why would scum be unsure).
but after saying that people should focus mostly on their own cells he basically made one filter post about both and then continued to watch them battling



Why would I go all out to defend you if I'm scum? Are you an idiot? What do I gain? And of course I'm focused on Rayn, I know hes scum and hes leading town by the hand, wouldnt you be attacking him if you knew that too? That also hasnt stopped me from going after Holy and others, who do you think is scum in your cell

You did go all out to defend me? I didn´t see it that way. Also you could get towny points, if I get lynched and flip town.


I´m leaning towards Tehpoofter mostly because he tells about the perfect scum strategy and then continues to play exactly opposite to that. This seems a bit too good.


Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.



We seem to have a different take on going all out, then


Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.


I said you were 100 percent town, then proceeded to attack Holy, thats pretty all out. if I am scum I am playing insane and sub optimal when all I have to do is watch you get rolled. Why? What makes Rayn town? The fact that hes good at the game? Hes always good XD.


There was already quite some pressure on you, though(still much less than now). So hypothetically defending me could give you town points when I flip green. Or I would be an easy kill, if you get lynched on day1.


Sigh, your really over thinking it, in Cultured I had a similar all out green read on a player called Mocsta, I just think your town bro, why ya gotta hate me for it T_T also I understand there are reasons to do what I did, but the negatives are

1) instant ire of town

2) easy point for scum to jump on

3) doesnt help me at all as scum, because as you said, I am more likely to know your alignment if I'm scum, therefore there are no realy lynch benefits.

The only real reason I'd defend you is because I dont want you to get lynched / :

i thought mostly scum were on your back?

and now that your main scum read suddenly lets you go as his main scum read, you go "nice, i'm afk now LOL"

i swear on my life that gum is scum

can we please get over this dumb shit, gum has been theatrical all game and i don't know why you would put this beyond him


Did b a gud point
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:35 GMT
#977
rayn where is cehphiro?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:40 GMT
#990
On April 03 2014 02:37 Steveling wrote:
So, if I just swear all is forfeit then? lol?

Also you have no line of reasoning in this, yes?

Finally, I said 2 times already that a single lynch removes a cell and it's 1-0 for them. I will defend myself so I won't get ML.

But mates, you made a solid case on gumshoe, now you say you flip flop on him because he swore????
Even gumshoe himself will think 100% of you as scum now.

I don't know if you are doing this just to bait a reaction off of me, a la gumshoe style but this is borderline cheating.
Can the mods speak up on this matter?


huuuuuuuuuuh? how is this cheating in any way, shape or form?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:43 GMT
#994
On April 03 2014 02:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 02:37 Steveling wrote:
So, if I just swear all is forfeit then? lol?

Also you have no line of reasoning in this, yes?

Finally, I said 2 times already that a single lynch removes a cell and it's 1-0 for them. I will defend myself so I won't get ML.

But mates, you made a solid case on gumshoe, now you say you flip flop on him because he swore????
Even gumshoe himself will think 100% of you as scum now.

I don't know if you are doing this just to bait a reaction off of me, a la gumshoe style but this is borderline cheating.
Can the mods speak up on this matter?


huuuuuuuuuuh? how is this cheating in any way, shape or form?




If you think gumshoe is scum why does it matter whether rayn thinks he is or not? Who cares what gumshoe thinks of rayn? Why would it be cheating to retract his read on a player just because he feels like it based on one post?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:45 GMT
#996
On April 03 2014 01:51 Coagulation wrote:
##vote getmoript


can you explain this vote, seeing as rayn is the only person you address in your entire filter, it looks a little odd
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:46 GMT
#999
On April 03 2014 02:46 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 02:44 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I jsut want to know what you have been talking about in chronological order.

~rayn

Look, that's flat out cheating regardless and I won't do it.
~g


^^^^^^^^^ scum
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:50 GMT
#1004
rayn and koshi had already done some copy/pasting earlier in the game, geript has not raged on about it at all and has taken the stance now that he won't paste it despite it already being done in this game before

the only explanation is that his qt is full of scummy shit and he can't paraphrase it straight away without forging some bs play
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:51 GMT
#1007
On April 03 2014 02:50 Palmar wrote:
Stfu holyflare


no thanks, a hydra qt is the mindset of a player it just happens to be 2 players, if geript doesn't know the mindset of his own partner and him then wtf has he been doing in the hydra all game? the only explanation is scummy things
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 17:53 GMT
#1009
fuck the chronological order just tell me what you two have been talking about and why
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 18:25 GMT
#1022
This was the last thing you pretty much wrote before your return.


On April 02 2014 16:24 getmoript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:
I am reading a hydra fight, so it's a bit hard to follow along, at the moment my thoughts on geript are this, he can present policy lynches, or lame mayor arguments as either alignment. Your a very logic driven player Rayn, you often believe that if something doesnt make sense it's coming from scum, but that always deserves a grain of salt especially in Geript's case.
Basically I read him as town atm for driving himself into the spotlight and gladly offering opinions, because that is inherently townie behaviour. Things make sense from his perspective that dont to others, so I am also willing to buy his policy lynch stuff not coming from a place of malevolence. That is my opinion.

I'm having a really hard time with this post. Gumshoe had a pretty decent read on me Cultured. This is a scary good read from gumshoe and I hate to say that I think he might be scum because of it for like the second game in a row. I'm definitely going to have to reread gum.


This is now your stance.

On April 03 2014 02:58 getmoript wrote:
We've talked about prplhz some. We've talked about mayor strategy some and how to get it. I've made some notes for him on my read through. I've commented Rayn being conf scum. I actually kinda feel back because I've posted more in the thread than in our log and explained more in here than I have there.



You've completely changed now. What the hell is your actual read and on who?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 18:27 GMT
#1023
and you sure as hell aren't getting mayor in this game btw
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 18:30 GMT
#1026
i also don't understand steve at all? he's complaining that rayn has flipped his reads and wants to quit the game? why does someone who is in your cell affect you at all? everyone has to vote on that cell so why does it matter if someone changes their reads based on someone swearing or not, especially if you think that other person is scum

that kind of reaction is....... yeh, not very natural looking
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 18:30 GMT
#1027
On April 03 2014 03:29 Steveling wrote:
Holyflare what do you think about ryankoshi now?


still town
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 18:51 GMT
#1045
On April 03 2014 03:39 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 03:30 Holyflare wrote:
i also don't understand steve at all? he's complaining that rayn has flipped his reads and wants to quit the game? why does someone who is in your cell affect you at all? everyone has to vote on that cell so why does it matter if someone changes their reads based on someone swearing or not, especially if you think that other person is scum

that kind of reaction is....... yeh, not very natural looking


How do you not get it.

If I'm town I played well, confirmed my role and am promoting our agenda.
If I'm scum I played even better, tricked my 2 cellmates into thinking I'm town and will secure 1 ML and a point for our team.

This changed because he went, sry for the adjective but it's true, retarded, no more no less.
I don't like it one bit, mods saying it's not cheating doesn't make it better.
Oh and all the while he speaks as if his retarded stuff makes actual sense.

You may say I overreact, maybe I do but I'm also right.

What's even more infuriating though is how this stunt he pulled doesn't raise any eyebrows.
Like, how do they still get town reads after that.

You guys messed up my football game I'm about to watch in 5mins.


You're saying you aren't town reading them then? Why is it cheating if they are scum then? Here's the situation. He's called your other cell member scum all game and changed it on a whim so now you are the scum target.

If you are town is your initial reaction -
A) no that's bull shit, if you can town read him based on that then YOU must be scum!
B) i think you're mistaken, it looked like the heat of the moment and he said it in scummy rage! all your points you raised before still hold water though and I still maintain that gumshoe is scum
C) no that's cheating! how can you be allowed to do that!?!?

I know my reaction would never in a million years be C, it would probably be a combination of B and a little aprehension of A. So why is yours C?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 18:53 GMT
#1046
On April 03 2014 03:51 prplhz wrote:
i'm confused

does getmoript even think i'm scum?


On April 03 2014 03:25 Holyflare wrote:
This was the last thing you pretty much wrote before your return.


Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 16:24 getmoript wrote:
On April 02 2014 06:44 gumshoe wrote:
I am reading a hydra fight, so it's a bit hard to follow along, at the moment my thoughts on geript are this, he can present policy lynches, or lame mayor arguments as either alignment. Your a very logic driven player Rayn, you often believe that if something doesnt make sense it's coming from scum, but that always deserves a grain of salt especially in Geript's case.
Basically I read him as town atm for driving himself into the spotlight and gladly offering opinions, because that is inherently townie behaviour. Things make sense from his perspective that dont to others, so I am also willing to buy his policy lynch stuff not coming from a place of malevolence. That is my opinion.

I'm having a really hard time with this post. Gumshoe had a pretty decent read on me Cultured. This is a scary good read from gumshoe and I hate to say that I think he might be scum because of it for like the second game in a row. I'm definitely going to have to reread gum.


This is now your stance.

Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 02:58 getmoript wrote:
We've talked about prplhz some. We've talked about mayor strategy some and how to get it. I've made some notes for him on my read through. I've commented Rayn being conf scum. I actually kinda feel back because I've posted more in the thread than in our log and explained more in here than I have there.



You've completely changed now. What the hell is your actual read and on who?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 18:55 GMT
#1047
this game mode really fucking sucks when there are lurkers, prime scum strategy is to lurk
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 18:59 GMT
#1052
On April 03 2014 03:56 Steveling wrote:
Because gumshoe actually bet his life on his alignment? And betting is prohibited?
Do you think swearing is something else than this?

Keep in mind that I could do the same and all this would be null, ryankoshi said so earlier, if I did this they would not target me with this anymore but I don't want to on principle.


you think he's actually going to kill himself after this game of mafia because of his conviction!??!? is this serious..? rayn is reading gumshoe as town because in THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT he put that conviction out there, for you to say it out of the blue and get read the same way is ridiculous to assume

so, are you scum? if not, which one is?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 02 2014 19:02 GMT
#1053
rayn, at the start of the game why did you town read me over mderg and poofter so quickly?
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