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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 05 2014 21:42 GMT
#2416
Scum claiming, yelling drunkenly that his split personality is stupid and getting himself modkilled.
About to be lynched, helps the wagon by self vote naming everyone voting for you scum.

Only in Cell Maifa.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 05 2014 21:49 GMT
#2433
What's the counterwagon on coag now? Are we assuming that if Sentinel is scum his team should have educated him on the game mechanics?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 05 2014 21:50 GMT
#2438
On April 06 2014 06:49 Steveling wrote:
Coag if you provide some reads, under the latest happenings I will switch my vote.
I can't go against my principles, so do that pls.

Cause Sent totally provided reads right? He totally did not just take the last five people who voted for him and call them scum
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 06 2014 02:00 GMT
#2586
Not only are associative reads from lynchs horrible we still don't know for sure if [UoN]Sentinal or Palmar is town. Yes there would be no reason for Sentinal to make a jackass of himself before coming in at the end of the scumteam however it is all speculation from there.

Now I am saying that before I make my own associative reads. From now on I will say that Rayn was definitively scum.
1) His gumshoe case was weak. I don't think town rayn would spend most of his time tunneling someone and then suddenly drop it on a whim...
2) He claimed scum and got himself modkilled. I am all for policy lynching people who claim scum, especially people who claim scum because they know they are about to be sent to the TL ban list.

Rayn and Geript. I cannot fathom how rayn and geript would be on the same scumteam together. The level of acting and interaction would seriously have me question "Do you have a life? Or do you spend all your time pretending to argue?". To me their conversations are far too numerous and far to genuine to be faked.

Ceph is lurking far to hard to be readable. I actually don't think this is the first game in which he has done that though...

Time to filter prphz
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 06 2014 06:37 GMT
#2597
Above all I really would like to see Cephiro be more active. I don't want him to take this cell mafia game as a free pass to do absolutely nothing.

In specific I would like to see Cephiro's thoughts on Prphz and Geript.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 19:31 GMT
#2867
Sorry for being AFK, so busy this past weekend. I'll try to catch up.

I've already said that I would be expecting Cephiro to try to make an effort to play, and until he post I have absolutely no reason to not vote for him

##Vote: Cephiro
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 19:43 GMT
#2871
Well yes, you do have a point about Ceph being busy. I guess I'll stay awake and read up on prphz
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 19:46 GMT
#2873
Why are you voting geript when there is no way he is going to be lynched?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#2916
[image loading]

No I do not know how to get your Honoured Alliance and Fought to the end relations so high
+ Show Spoiler +
I am testing out a new format since I find it interesting


Okay. First of all there is no focus at all on My group or Holyflare's Group. I am going to assume that mafia were set on winning the first three groups. Either that or the Mafia are very comfortable with the people in the last two groups that they don't need to worry about anything. I feel like I am probably one of the best candidates for down in group 5, so I'm going to toss the second theory out.

After all, before I started yelling a lot of people thought Rayn was town even though he was modkilled, and there was no way that Palmar knew that we would suddenly turn on him.

If we do use this horrible associative WIFORM read, certaintly prplhz does look bad, as detailed by town members who are dead set on using associative reads

Associative Reads: -10




Active- Look, most of the members of the game are lurking, and generally lurking is a great strategy for mafia if the town is lurking too. Since there are more lurkers than remaining mafia members it isn't a bad idea. That being said Prphz has lurked pretty hard this past day. Even though I was gone for essentially the entirety of today I don't feel like I missed much

Active: +5 (-3/Year)




"I totally knew Palmar was scum" Check out this post
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 06 2014 10:26 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 09:56 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:45 gumshoe wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:43 getmoript wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 09:36 getmoript wrote:
Hell did you see how many times his reads changed at the end. Like his first list of scumreads had both Ceph and me as scum. Like WTF. Then when you read that post it's even more full of total WTF. I don't think Sent is great as town, but I refuse to believe that he is that incapable or stupid as town. Like that's not in his game. Generally, when it comes between Dumb or Scum it's often more correct to assume the latter than the former.


Stop being stupid. Palmar sheeped his scum read (me) on to sentinel to look towny but failed. The more you try and reason a town palmar the more likely mafia you are geript.


So we should stop trying to reason things out and looking for scummy connections?

Good to know.

~Cav


No im reasoning with you here : D lets arrive at the truth together k?


I'm trying to. Also, I'm going to post my thoughts on the other two in my cell.

Cephiro really needs to talk more before we finalize our lynch, and his vote on Coag is complete bullshit because he didn't mention Coag at any point during his giant wall-of-text posts. I don't think he even acknowledged that Coag was in the game up until that point. We know nothing about him because he's hardly even playing.

Prp was jumping around and being mega wishy-washy about Sentinel's lynch. These three posts:

dunno maybe sent is scum

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel


JOIN THE WAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ON SENTINEL

A VOTE FOR SENTINEL IS A VOTE FOR VICTORY


meh

##Vote Coagulation


Are evidence of clear flimsy vote switching. Prp is scummy, but we know next to nothing about Cephiro other than his early game posts, and he pretty much coasted up until this point.

Personally, I think there's plenty of information that makes the Cavborg look townie and prp look scummy. The only issue is that Ceph hasn't said shit other than those giant wall-of-text posts and a vote on Coag with no reasoning behind it. (Seriously the dude doesn't even admit that he's sheeping someone wtf?)

With information like that in the thread, it's a little odd that people just go "Palmar was scum because Sentinel selfvoted meta meta meta." Sentinel's lynch was clearly a big deal to a certain someone, but we're all overlooking it because we think Palmar was scum. Honestly, what other reason would prp have to flip flop like that before the lynch? It's not the best evidence, but it seems solid enough to start asking more questions.

Prp, why were you flip flopping around Sentinel's lynch? You seemed like you were dead-set on voting Sentinel off, and then you kinda flipped back to Coag for no particular reason. Elaborate more pls.

~Cav

Yes.

At the beginning of the day I filtered [UoN]Sentinel and concluded that he was town. That's why I didn't do much today, the lynch was going on Coagulation and I was perfectly happy with that. At the same time people were poking [UoN]Sentinel and Coagulation and I didn't think there was any reason for me to clutter the thread too much.

I came into this thread tonight around 40 mins before deadline. I saw that Palmar had moved his vote to [UoN]Sentinel and I thought that this was a little odd because I had a firm town read on [UoN]Sentinel but at the same time I also had a firm town read on Palmar so I started doubting myself. In any case I noticed that it was 30 minutes since Palmar had moved his vote but no one else had moved their votes and I found this odd because Palmar's opinion usually carries a lot of weight. (Later I realized that it was because Palmar wasn't actually pushing [UoN]Sentinel but just placing his vote). I thought to myself that I didn't really know who to lynch. On one hand I thought [UoN]Sentinel was town but on the other hand my biggest town read thought he was scum.

Anyway, I decided to vote for [UoN]Sentinel simply to see what would happen. Maybe scum wanted to switch away from Coagulation but were afraid to be first vote and maybe there was some information to gain from voting patterns. I did not believe that [UoN]Sentinel would be lynched at this point.

Then suddenly three other people also switched their votes and I wrote to Palmar and asked him to remember to say if he saw anything suspicious. It was getting close to deadline and I didn't really know what was going on so I wanted his thoughts before he died. Then [UoN]Sentinel made a post that could only come from a townie, the one where he changed all of his reads and voted for himself. This convinced me that [UoN]Sentinel had to be town and I switched my vote back to Coagulation. I still didn't think there was any danger of a [UoN]Sentinel lynch at this point, I had counted 5-6 votes for [UoN]Sentinel and that left plenty of votes for Coagulation.

Hence the flip flopping. I voted for [UoN]Sentinel because Palmar's vote had me doubting and because of curiosity, and I changed my vote back because [UoN]Sentinel made a post I don't think scum can make. That's also why, when Coagulation flipped town, I started thinking that Palmar had to be scum.


Really? You decided to bandwangon [UoN]Sentinel because you concluded he is town. Suddenly people 'fall for your trap' and you conclude that palmar is mafia? Why would a random voteswitch from a townie to a (assumed) townie be indicative of mafia action?

Seems like a really shitty reason to believe that Palmar is scum. Sure there is additional explination here but hindsight is 20/20

Likewise his case on steveling is so forshadowed I can hear the inception music. He starts off with the classic question "Can you give me reads on 9 people you have never thought deeply about right now or I call you scum"
On April 07 2014 02:21 prplhz wrote:
@Steveling What is your scumteam right now?


Fabricated Claims: -25


Defensive Play

Well, lastly I tried to look for what Prplhz thought of Geprit and Cephiro. I couldn't find anything. It is sad to think that Cephiro has more analysis on the group than Prplhz. After all your group you have a 50% chance of hitting mafia. As town, it is vitally important that you win your group and he hasn't been doing much to stick his head out and go after someone in his group.
On April 06 2014 17:44 prplhz wrote:
Decided that Cephiro is scum.

Lets make the lynch between Cephiro and me?

##Vote Cephiro

Seems a really odd attitude for town to have

Plotting against us! -15



The point system was meaningless. The only reason why I did it because I thought it was fun
##unvote
##Vote Prplhz

+ Show Spoiler [Bonus] +

On April 07 2014 02:29 prplhz wrote:
List of people who give more than zero fucks: prplhz

On April 08 2014 02:02 prplhz wrote:
I'm out of this game, I just cannot read another gumshoe post.

I don't think gumshoe is scum because it's impossible to fake this kind of dumb. I still think raynpelikonoshi was town. I think Steveling is scum. I think it is weird that Palmar changed his read on him in his last-reads-post without saying it in the thread. I also think it's weird that Steveling liked gumshoe's associative reads post on me so much, when Steveling didn't seem to agree with the scum reads in the post, especially Balla24 and mderg. If Holyflare doesn't get scum lynched today he's probably scum. Saying that I'm so town it hurts and then afking when he has the ability to get me off the hook is

As for Balla24 inactivity:

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:28 Balla24 wrote:
Ill be away monday to tuesday so you should put me 2nd otherwise I will barely be around during my cells lynch.


Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 06:58 Balla24 wrote:
On April 04 2014 06:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 04 2014 06:35 Steveling wrote:
Alright sentinel, can't argue now, I'm off.

Ryankoshi weren't you saying our group would be first?
Do I get 3 more days to play in this logic forsaken game if you put us up as 2nd?

That's the reason we go second.

Again. I have an interview during slot 3 so unless you are confident I dont need to be there much do not put cell 4 3rd.


Not gonna check this thread any more.

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 20:37 GMT
#2920
On April 08 2014 05:15 Holyflare wrote:
cephiro has information on palmar being scum and information after palmars lynch that he shouldn't have because he hasn't been here and if he was he could have posted about it

lynch cephiro with fire

I never thought I would see an argument worse than "He claimed scum so he must be town". And "He seem town so he must be scum, and since he thought you were town you must be scum" however truely holyflare you have raised my expectations
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 20:51 GMT
#2928
Geript isn't scum, and there is no way we are moving this wagon all the way over there

Either vote for Prphlz or explain why you are 100% confident.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 20:51 GMT
#2929
On April 08 2014 05:51 LSB wrote:
Geript isn't scum, and there is no way we are moving this wagon all the way over there

Either vote for Prphlz or explain why you are 100% confident he is town.

EBWOP
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 21:02 GMT
#2940
Honestly I might want to delay sleep so I can draw joke pictures about this game. I got a great idea
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
April 07 2014 21:31 GMT
#2982
All we need now is for getmoript to vote himself, everyone wagon, and then a last minute counterwagon onto prphz
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-09 18:51:02
April 08 2014 15:58 GMT
#3103
It's good to know that even with these clean town victories, TL town still falls apart to a competent scum team that doesn't play like they hate being scum.

I thought this setup was really nice, my thoughts on ideal ordering were honest. The order wasn't if you haven't figured out by now (Activity based ordering with three lurkers at the last spot ). It's a shame that I got palmar killed first but I wasn't expecting anyone to seriously believe me.

On April 08 2014 07:54 prplhz wrote:
does anybody know how i was lynched? for future games. i thought i did the best job i have done in ages looking town.

You were lynched because I wanted geript on my side and I was not going to lynch family. You were just the easy target I just made shit up on you. If I was town I would not have pushed your lynch. Gumshoe provided me a small opportunity that I jumped at

On April 08 2014 09:10 kitaman27 wrote:
Is this LSB's first win as mafia in 4 years?!

I never thought I'd live to see the day.

All these days of rolling town really pulled off :D, getting mislynched sucks sometimes but hey it was worth it.

On April 08 2014 11:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
So can someone finally explain me what is the difference between town Palmar and scum Palmar?

I DUNNO SECRET
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