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On April 02 2014 22:47 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 22:44 prplhz wrote:
hey gum how you feel about palmar and flare? Flare is scum probs, Plam I'm not sure yet ) : he thinks I'm scum and hes pretty cozy with Rayn, but his group is so hard to read, It still holds a total lurker (coag) and sentinel is resoundingly null. Need to see more out of them before I can be sure on him.
You agreed with me on mderg, then flipped that read 180 for bs reasons and then quoted something from cultured which didn't apply here at all and then ignored the actual part in this game where i explain things.
Want to restate your answer as holyflare - town now?
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On April 02 2014 22:54 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 19:19 Holyflare wrote:On April 02 2014 13:19 gumshoe wrote:Holyflaire. Mderg is mafia in my group btw, that's an easy one. this game i really don't think it matters, we just lynch through the people not on suki and win x_x The last quote is from Holy's scum game in cultured mafia. Scum want town atmosphere to be one of two things, lax, or utterly chaotic. Lax especially if they feel they're in a good position, which Holy definitely is considering his cell mates are relative unknowns. Scum holy likes to present easy options, lets him minimize his contribution to the game, I'm not impressed with him so far, so hes my pick for scum over mdern. Why did you do this and say i'm taking the easy option but you know... Leave out all the evidence why i said what i said? You seemingly AGREE with me seeing as you quoted yourself as a person attacking mderg but suddenly out of the blue you 180 your read on him because too many people are on him. If you think mderg is scummy then to you AT LEAST 3/6 of those people in your list are town. You defend geript so you think he's town and balla looks really towny. So really, 5/6 people on mderg should be town to you. Only rayn is left and your case on him made 0 sense. So really. You're ignoring evidence from this games posting style to flip your read because a bunch of townies are on mderg. Why you throw suspicion on everyone gumshoe? I realized I was wrong on Mderg because of how much heat he was getting and his crap meta, I was honest about this and have adressed this point. Town change thier reads all the time, because thier town. As for my case, I pointed out similarities to a scum game of his were he pushed me in a similar manner 0_0. I also didnt like how certain he was I am scum before hearing steve talk. I then explained why all his actions make sense from a scum perspective. How does that make no sense? Provide proof please. I think Balla is scum btw. so there ya go. How is Balla townie? You dont go so far to explain it here, ala lazy scum holy. Anyways point answered, 3 scum on mdern.
You never commented on whether or not his play is different from his town play. You just keep calling him subpar town and bad town etc with no actual knowledge of whether that is the case because you neglect to comment on any of the points people raised on him.
Balla is very towny because he is questioning in every single right place, he sees something he doesn't like and he isn't afraid to point it out and go against the grain.
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I think we lynch geript to see if he confirmed me palmar and rayn as town earlier.
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You dont go so far to explain it here, ala lazy scum holy
When is this ever true?
Also. Last game you sheeped me over your own read on rayn because i knew better than you. Why not believe this game?
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Also tram, you called me scum FOR HAVING THE SAME STANCE YOU DID. I went to bed and you had my shared stance. I woke up and you called me scum for having the same stance.
How does that add up as a towny progressive line of thought?
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On April 02 2014 23:20 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 23:18 Holyflare wrote:You dont go so far to explain it here, ala lazy scum holy When is this ever true? Also. Last game you sheeped me over your own read on rayn because i knew better than you. Why not believe this game? As scum I find you put slightly less effort than as town, this is judging by cultured vs heavy and snippets of voice/video play(though I do take those with a grain of salt.) Because I know Rayn is scum 0_0 like 100 percent now that Steve's bled green. There is no reason I should sheep anyone in this game on matters regarding my cell, because I know way more than them.
I put more effort in as scum than i do as town. Hence, ya know.. My 9-0 winning streak I'm on right now.
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On April 02 2014 23:32 Palmar wrote:
How am I not obvtown for being the only person who actually read HF's meta point Koshi?
Gumshoe apparently didn't but says he did and then scum reads me for coming to the same conclusion he did :D
There's no way this is town gumshoe, he's saying things like he has "the whole scum team against" him and that he's caught a lot of scum despite spending 0 time on anyone other than rayn
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If half the thread is afk maybe scum isn't so organised? Why does the scum have to be active?
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On April 02 2014 23:41 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 23:38 Holyflare wrote:On April 02 2014 23:32 Palmar wrote:
How am I not obvtown for being the only person who actually read HF's meta point Koshi? Gumshoe apparently didn't but says he did and then scum reads me for coming to the same conclusion he did :D There's no way this is town gumshoe, he's saying things like he has "the whole scum team against" him and that he's caught a lot of scum despite spending 0 time on anyone other than rayn Also how is it no way townshoe? Have you played a scum game with me? Point it out XD
I fail to see how someone plays town so retardedly as to say everyone active is scum. Selects meta that doesn't make any sense in the context it's used. Says one of the most towny looking people is scum. Flips a read on someone 180 because "i think scum are on it". Why wouldn't your first thought be to reevaluate who you thought was scum but might be town instead?
You are only calling people scummy apart from the person in your cell which is indicative of a scum trying to push mislynches rather than a town trying to figure out the game.
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On April 02 2014 23:45 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 23:41 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 23:37 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 23:36 Palmar wrote:On April 02 2014 23:35 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 23:32 Palmar wrote:
How am I not obvtown for being the only person who actually read HF's meta point Koshi? 0_0 can you explain to me why this makes you town? Because it means I'm actually reading the thread, and that I care about the cases being made? Why are scum not capable of that? Especially if said scum is one of the best players on tl. Go read my last two games and see how well your theory holds up hurr durr I think you played fine that game 0_0 and totally read and responded to each of my questions. You were just caught out fast cause Marv is awesome, otherwise you were never getting lynched that day.
Were you in a totally different game?
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On April 02 2014 23:44 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
If half the thread is afk maybe scum isn't so organised? Why does the scum have to be active? Maybe were all town and Artanis is the true scum? Wtf is this? I always assume scum play to the best of thier ability, this a tenent of my play going back to the first game I played on these forums, I am assuming they are a force to be reckoned with. You on the other hand are suggesting were totally winning, theyre afk, theres no reason to worry. Assuming that scum are as weak as possible to lure town into a false security XD ala scum holy.
The point is, i don't know what scum is doing. TL scum especially like to be super super lazy nowadays so in fact i do expect them to be less tryhard than you make them out to be.
Why are you so sure scum is active and plays to the best of their abilities if that is almost never the case?
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You bring up culture as my only scum meta and i play scum lazily but that's because i bussed my entire team and played the entire town out against each other to lynch off the suki wagon so i could do that to act like a disinterested confirmed town. This game is nothing like that whatsoever? I have alignments to look at, people in cells that are confirmed mafia etc.
How can you even compare the two?
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Yes 1 person on the team can play great but there are 5 people and you think 3 or 4 of the ACTIVE people are scum. That's ridiculous.
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You stated earlier that town is getting rolled by active scum and we're in a shit spot right now and what happens in a scenario where town are in a shit spot fighting among themselves? Oh, yes. Afk scummers.
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Make someone scummy mayor for lulz
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On April 03 2014 00:22 gumshoe wrote:
Like, Rayn, we agree Steve is town right? Therefore, either way at least one scum player is extremely active. If that scum player is you, that means the most active player in the game (who has had several active players, such as Holy and Balla back him up at certain points,) is scum. If I'm scum on the other hand, my team could be lurking, or not, but I am still extremely active. If we know that one of the two most active players in the game is scum, why is it so hard to bilieve that the scum team as a whole is active? Thats certainly the case if Rayn is scum, which I know he is.
Silly people. Move on with your life and talk about other people.
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On April 03 2014 00:29 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 00:24 Palmar wrote:
like I just read the exchange again, the "do you want the truth" bit is awful and looks like revised history. Do you think I legitimately fucking believed Steve is scum because he games late? Now this is just retarded, if you want to call me scum for risky scum hunting, do so, but dont you dare present me as such a fucking idiot.
So you admit this is fucking retarded. Rayn ignores it because it's fucking retarded and then he comes back and thinks. Why is gumshoe being so fucking retarded? So then rayn is scum
... Do you realise how stupid that sounds? Especially as you said rayn is super sharp as scum. If he was scum this game why didn't he just jump on you straight away instead of coming back after thinking?
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You guys make this the perfect environment for scum to afk. No wonder half the people in the game aren't playing.
. (also probably because artanis started instantly with no warning :s)
Mderg says he has returned and is catching up.
On April 02 2014 22:19 mderg wrote:
just got home and skimmed through this. Gonna catch up completely now.
On April 02 2014 23:51 mderg wrote:
I don´t like the heavy focus on lynching gumshoe right now. I´m also leaning scum on him right now but , if steveling was scum, you´d give him the easiest time of his life. I mean, after his filter posts he didn´t do much regarding his own cell and just let the gumshoe bashing continue.
Narrowing down our vision on only gumshoe seems bad to me. Even if he is scum, it doesn´t tell us much about any connections because right now everybody is ganging up on him.
Also my name is mderg. Not mdreg, mdern, derg or anything else.
And then mentions nothing about the entirety of the game other than the thing that was happening on the latest page.
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Can i use the forbidden word?
Mindmeld? :OOOOOO
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On April 03 2014 00:49 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Holyflare what do you think of geript "policy HF because if he is scum he is bussing in this game". Do you see why it does not make sense in the first place?
~rayn
Looked like a retarded joke to me but showed he also wasn't thinking about the setup at all.
I still think he slipped that palmar, nme and you are town :p
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