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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:06 GMT
#1977
On April 05 2014 01:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:01 Palmar wrote:
So why are you mad hf? he's getting lynched right?


im not mad, it's just silly you'd agree with stuff he's raised when he hasn't even read it!

I agreed with his read on you, not with his particular arguments.

Go look at steve's case to see why I think you are mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:11 GMT
#1980
you
ceph
coag or sent (probably sent tbh)
slam maaaybe lsb
And I have no idea and don't care. probably steve.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:13 GMT
#1982
prplhz should never be lynched, and balla looked really town in the early game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:14 GMT
#1983
Actually then again poof hasn't done jack shit, so maybe Hf is just bad.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:17 GMT
#1984
On April 05 2014 01:13 Holyflare wrote:
just gonna lynch palmar today

You do that.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:25 GMT
#1985
This game is way too hard.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:33 GMT
#1986
Like I think cephiro is mafia by elimination. I haven't really read his text walls attentively, but prplhz is a pretty strong townread, I've pointed out at least one of the posts that make me think he has to be town.

Geript is a much harder case, but for the most part he doesn't look like scumript. I always call him out as mafia on day 1 when he is mafia, and I actually thought rayn's tunnel on him was wrong, I pointed out some flaws in rayn's case here:

On April 02 2014 22:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 21:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 02 2014 21:40 Palmar wrote:
Right now rayn, who would you lynch out of HF's group?

mderg. But we'll see him posting more. I have a townread on Holyflare and i am a bit unsure of poofer. I don't see anything particularly scummy from him but i don't know what Koshi is up to or we are not 100% on the same page with him on poofer. I tried to poke Koshi about it in our QT but he is at work so we'll talk more about it tonight.


I didn't like poofter's giant post on HF just to come back and say mderg is more likely scum. That's basically actively keeping options open which isn't really needed for town.

But yes, if this is all mderg has to offer we lynch him. Doesn't make HF's meta any more valid, even if he flips mafia


Show nested quote +
On April 02 2014 21:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
In the meantime, what's your take on this:
On April 02 2014 19:50 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
On April 02 2014 14:35 getmoript wrote:
Rayn I have an important question for you. Koshi isn't allowed to answer. I want you to rate your #1 issue with me.
~g

I'll give the thread all the issues:

My #1 issue with you is your flip-flopping on your reads. At the start of the game you are sure Slam is scum. Very very reasonable. However when other people (mainly me) agree with it you start defending him. You should be even more sure of the read, even if you think i am mafia, because if i am mafia and i "incorrectly read" Slam's alignment there is a high chance that backfires on me. At the start of the game you say HF should be policy lynched because he is either right or bussing. Now you say HF is pushing town wrong direction. Contradiction. You don't comment on my reads. You just say you disagree with them for no reason, you just say i am wrong without telling me why i am wrong. + Cavalinho has no reads all he has talked about is some mayor crap.

My #2 issue with you is that your tone changes in ungeript-y manner. At the start of the game you say things. We disagree.. I call you scum. You yell at me and you tell the thread i am scum. Then you say more things. I say more things. You disagree with me again. However you are not aggressive any more. You don't comment on why you disagree with me on what we disagree. Instead you are defensive and passive. Normally as town geript, if he disagrees with someone, comes to a conclusion that person is mafia, or he voices his argument vocally and tries to convince the other person in a way or another. Here you just give up but you still disagree and noone even knows why.

My #3 issue with you is that you and Cavalinho are not on the same page in this game. Cavalinho has no idea why your reads are what they are and i find it incredibly unlike that would be the case if you were town. On top of that Cavalinho is scared to voice his opinions on everything that's going on in thread. The only thing he comments on is setup talk. He has no opinions on anything and he doesn't even know why you think what you do. It seems like you guys don't even talk about your reads with each other.

~rayn

????

~rayn

I don't really understand the first part of #1, the second part is a non-point because if you call that a contradiction no one can ever bring up the HF = bus/right thing and then disagree with him. It's actually really dumb to expect geript to consistently stay with that notion of holyflare and never question antyhing HF does because of it. You're pushing him to live up to what is probably a joke.

#3 is actually a good point, and if there was a way of testing it that'd be great. ie if we could somehow interrogate only the Cav head without him being funneled answers from the geript head. But I don't think we can so whatever.

#2 is just a meta read, and I'm not even sure I agree scum geript is passive, he was plenty mad at me in survivor.

Like I don't know, if this is geript mafia he's not playing like he played in survivor. He was much more cowboy-ish and less interactive in that game than he is now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:54 GMT
#1989
On April 05 2014 01:51 gumshoe wrote:
Palmar is loath to admit that what Rayn did makes him scum, because it is much easier to argue that point than it is to convince us that he is not also scum if Rayn is in fact red / : They were likely willing to buddy up so closely after a certain point because they realized that neither of them were going flip, so long as something crazy didn't happen.......

##Vote Palmar

Shut the fuck up you dumb piece of shit.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:55 GMT
#1990
Fuck it gumshoe is mafia.

No one is this dumb.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 16:58 GMT
#1991
write 200 word essay on unflipped player.

conclude someone entirely different is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:06 GMT
#1996
On April 05 2014 02:01 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:58 Palmar wrote:
write 200 word essay on unflipped player.

conclude someone entirely different is mafia.


Virtually everyone here agrees that what rayn did makes him scummy. Kinda funny how things have turned around no? Just a few days ago our positions were reversed XD not fun fighting the whole thread is it? How long till your scum buddy's smell the blood in the water and come for you as well ya think?

You were under suspicion for something you did.

You and HF are trying to pusht he idea that I should be under suspicion for something rayn did.

There is a difference and it makes you mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:11 GMT
#2003
On April 05 2014 02:07 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:54 Palmar wrote:
On April 05 2014 01:51 gumshoe wrote:
Palmar is loath to admit that what Rayn did makes him scum, because it is much easier to argue that point than it is to convince us that he is not also scum if Rayn is in fact red / : They were likely willing to buddy up so closely after a certain point because they realized that neither of them were going flip, so long as something crazy didn't happen.......

##Vote Palmar

Shut the fuck up you dumb piece of shit.


Take note, this is the angriest reaction from palmar I have ever seen. I think what I've said is fairly reasonable / : and well mannered as well. So why an outburst this bad? Why does my opinion ( which he doesn't really seem to value) get him this angry?

2 things are at work. He blames me for what rayn did, the game was thiers before I did something cheap / : so he can't help but be angry at me. palmar responds more coolly to accusations as town than a lot of players on tl in my opinion XD

Yet he's furious here, which brings me to the second factor, which is that I have hit the nail on the head XD and he can't stand it.

No, because you're exploiting an unflipped player whose alignment we don't know to talk about me.

So I get mad, because this is in the same bullshit league as the betting on your life thing apparently not being a bet, or it being okay to ask geript to post his hydra qt.

But I guess it's what you have to do, you're mafia and you do whatever you can to win.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:12 GMT
#2004
go read my filter and prove I'm mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:14 GMT
#2007
Also, even if we assume rayn was scum, why does that make me mafia gumshoe?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:15 GMT
#2008
On April 05 2014 02:14 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:06 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:04 Coagulation wrote:
palmar is really engaged. looks quite town, so it must be sent right?
##unvote
##vote sent


but sentinels meta is to look scummy as town right righhhhhhhttttt


i was talking out of my ass before. Just read his filter and he looks scummy.
You think palmar is the scum, right? Do you have good reasons?

No he thinks I'm town but wants to lynch me for thinking he's scum I think.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:18 GMT
#2012
On April 05 2014 02:15 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:12 Palmar wrote:
go read my filter and prove I'm mafia.


If I do so I am assuming rayn is scum, just so you know, because I have made arguments as to why his claim is believeable le and that is my stance. This is a game built around associations and your asking me not to take into account a scum claim 0-0


Only if you also assume that you can possibly be wrong that rayn is mafia. Rayn is not flipped mafia, so you have to read my filter from the perspective that rayn is an unflipped guy who you think is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:19 GMT
#2014
Like no matter rayn's alignment, I have no idea what his alignment is.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:23 GMT
#2019
On April 05 2014 02:20 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:14 Palmar wrote:
Also, even if we assume rayn was scum, why does that make me mafia gumshoe?


Glad to see you've calmed down : D I don't read his interactions with sent and coag as scum on scum. He presents sent as possibly scummy, and coag as possibly townie so that when coag flips, everyone calls sent scum. Not you. He also chose not to read into you ( until it was convenient for him ) until your team mates talked, despite the fact that he had no issue calling me or Geript scum before Steve or cephiro talked. The motive is that he used the asks as an excuse to not talk about his scum buddies. Only once I started going after actives did he defend you.

Still talking abour rayn

Talk about me, I know it really hurts your case, but even if you're mafia you can at least try to be not an asshole.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:25 GMT
#2020
On April 05 2014 02:22 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 02:19 prplhz wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:12 gumshoe wrote:
On April 05 2014 02:09 prplhz wrote:
gumshoe is just making shit up as he goes


Purple, is rayn scum for claiming scum? If you agree, then attack my argument not me. Thanks for confirming that your scum though XD first post in a while = defence of scum buddy. I know you people are pissed about rayn but you don't have to make things that easy.

If palmar flips town you can have my head if you like, there's more than once cell to win with after all.

Like, you're just making shit up as you go, no thinking just fitting everything to your agenda. If I am scum, and Palmar is scum, why on earth would I even think that Palmar needed or would benefit from me posting a one liner? I'm just posting exactly what I am seeing, you are in make-shit-up-mode. Every time someone posts it completely confirms whatever you think and that's just not how mafia works at all.


Loll, no your doing what scum have been doing all game. Calling my arguments bullshit in an organized manner without attacking the arguments. Scum rayn and palmar have offered one off " gumshoe doesn't make sense therefore he's mafia " all game, why wouldn't you? It worked for a good long while.

This is like not what happened at all.

You "baited" rayn, and then contradicted yourself (and claim to have done it intentionally, as some sort of level 2 bait?) Rayn called you out on it, and your response for him calling your mafia for acting like mafia which is exactly what a townie would do is to call him mafia.

"Fuck you rayn, you're acting like a townie, I guess you're mafia." - gumshoe 2014
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 04 2014 17:26 GMT
#2021
But it's ok, because for the entire time, all rayn needed to do to not be called mafia by you is to stop calling you mafia.

genius.
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