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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:29 GMT
#783
wait wtf rayn isn't even voting for thrawn anymore!??!!?!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:31 GMT
#785
On March 27 2014 06:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually just fuck it.
See you in 24 hours or so.
Policy.

##unvote
##vote prplhz

I don't even give a fuck if he is mafia or not because if he is not he is still playing towards mafia win condition.
I am not going to post until one of us dies.


oh... let's policy rayn for policying over his almost confirmed scum read since page 8!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:36 GMT
#793
On March 27 2014 18:32 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:24 Holyflare wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:12 phagga wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:21 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:13 phagga wrote:
Palmar - might be scum. I don't know what he is doing or what he hopes to achieve, but it doesn't really remind me of town Palmar, and I cannot see a townie motivation behind is behaviour


What AM I doing?

This is the most blanket statement read I have ever seen, there is literally not a single word of actual content in here.

You have been bickering with Marv and never tried to put your thoughts into the thread. You were useless over several pages, and that's not how you play as town.

Also I completely agree with marvs case on you.



you aren';t factoring his "i haven't read my role PM claim"?

if it's true then marv's case literally counts for nothing. if he hasn;t read his PM then the only way you can reasonably call palmar mafia is if you do it by PoE


if palmar hasn't read his role pm then he is pushing marv based on any alignment, what if it's a scum pm? what if he has actually read it? palmar's play this game has been useless so it's no strong leap to go from useless palmar to ---> scummy palmar and it certainly isn't something to paint someone scummy over for making a case on it

tldr: Palmar doesn't care about finding mafia, even though he kinda tries to make it look like he's interested. He has no real reads on anyone even though he's given superficial reads which require no thought. He's inconsistent in a spineless way re:gumshoe. His attitude towards me has been pretty spineless because frankly he doesn't know how to deal with me, whereas if he were town he'd smack me down rather than practically have me make him vote me. The dude is mafia.


the bolded part is absolutely true and this also classifies as palmar laying "a trap" (i.e not read role pm so anyone making case on me is actually mafia) is a trap. Which palmar disliked (whether joking or not) earlier on rayn. So do we policy/scum lynch him now?


you just told me that it's pointless to think about marv's case becaue palmar hasn't read the pm

do you not understand what not reading a role PM means? it means you don't have the knowledge that scum has, it means that you are posting without knowing alignments. if someone hasb;t read their PM then it's absoultey impossible to figure out their alignment other than using PoE

as to the policy lynch question

honestly i would like to policy lynch him but I'm never able to follow through on those. i'm definitely going to include a rule about reading your role PM in future games

if you're gonna even try to figure out palmar's alignment then you must be open to the idea that he is lying about not reading his pm. is that what you're suggesting?


Yes, regardless of his alignment he has done nothing this entire game and when someone has called him out on it he votes them as scum "because he hasn't read his pm" which is a totally fallacious argument to make as he legitimately has done nothing this game so the case is in fact true.

Not reading pm goes against your alignments wincon and should be dealt with by hosts anyway as he could be bussing his partner based on information he could have by reading his pm and it would alter his play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:38 GMT
#797
On March 27 2014 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
oki doki :D

you have until tonight/tomorrow anyway (depending how impatient I am). Who knows, I might even be wrong. It's so boring catching mafia within 24h of every single game, so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me. It would be much more interesting for me personally.


marv y u say you could be wrong but then say that u haz actual case very soon after?

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
What? I know my case against you, I'm just not interested in making it right now.

I'm happy to talk about anything else in the meantime.


Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:39 GMT
#801
On March 27 2014 18:38 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:38 Holyflare wrote:
On March 27 2014 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
On March 27 2014 01:44 marvellosity wrote:
oki doki :D

you have until tonight/tomorrow anyway (depending how impatient I am). Who knows, I might even be wrong. It's so boring catching mafia within 24h of every single game, so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me. It would be much more interesting for me personally.


marv y u say you could be wrong but then say that u haz actual case very soon after?

On March 27 2014 02:17 marvellosity wrote:
What? I know my case against you, I'm just not interested in making it right now.

I'm happy to talk about anything else in the meantime.



it's not possible to think someone is mafia but also think you might be wrong? what sort of question is this?


no the first bit implies that you could be wrong about reading him and that it would completely change based on his activity, the second says you have an actual case on him and it's not that long afterwards

why not bring that up in the first instance?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:43 GMT
#807
Who knows, I might even be wrong. It's so boring catching mafia within 24h of every single game, so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me.


This implies you could be wrong about palmar based on activity.

What? I know my case against you, I'm just not interested in making it right now.

I'm happy to talk about anything else in the meantime.


This implies you have an actual case against him based on other points.



Why the big difference in such short time?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:47 GMT
#814
On March 27 2014 18:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:43 Holyflare wrote:
Who knows, I might even be wrong. It's so boring catching mafia within 24h of every single game, so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me.


This implies you could be wrong about palmar based on activity.

What? I know my case against you, I'm just not interested in making it right now.

I'm happy to talk about anything else in the meantime.


This implies you have an actual case against him based on other points.



Why the big difference in such short time?

What the fuck is wrong with you, Holy?

I think I've caught Palmar, my case is already ready, but there exists a world where marv is incorrect and maybe Palmar will show he's town? I literally don't understand what you're asking or why I'm having to say this, it's 100% obvious?


i'm covering all bases dimwit

because I think I've caught Palmar, my case is already ready that does not apply to the first quoted bit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:49 GMT
#817
ok marv just ignore whatever let's talk about rayn face

why does he rage out with prplhz?

"this is policy you either lynch him or me and i wont return"

why wouldn't he just assume prpl is mafia and get him lynched as well as thrawn? why does it become a policy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 09:52 GMT
#820
On March 27 2014 18:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:47 Holyflare wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:45 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2014 18:43 Holyflare wrote:
Who knows, I might even be wrong. It's so boring catching mafia within 24h of every single game, so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me.


This implies you could be wrong about palmar based on activity.

What? I know my case against you, I'm just not interested in making it right now.

I'm happy to talk about anything else in the meantime.


This implies you have an actual case against him based on other points.



Why the big difference in such short time?

What the fuck is wrong with you, Holy?

I think I've caught Palmar, my case is already ready, but there exists a world where marv is incorrect and maybe Palmar will show he's town? I literally don't understand what you're asking or why I'm having to say this, it's 100% obvious?


i'm covering all bases dimwit

because I think I've caught Palmar, my case is already ready that does not apply to the first quoted bit.

You're not covering any bases, you're asking me retarded questions with fucking obvious answers if you just apply some basic reading comprehension? How and why does it not apply to the first quoted bit? What are you saying? Why are you so stupid?


the first fucking quote implies you have no case and you are scum reading palmar based on his lack of activity because it would change if he showed he was town at a later time, the second quoted bit says that you know your actual case and then you post your actual case and it has things not based solely on actual activity.

So either you scum read palmar for only activity initially and then you made a case on him later and added in some fluffy points to bolster it or you didn't actually have a case made and made it at a later time

so which is it?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:01 GMT
#824
this is nothing to do with palmar it's all about you

if he could prove to you that he was towny for you to mention that point in the first quote then all the stuff that happened in the game before that quote wouldn't be actual scum palmar points because then they must be stuff towny palmar can do too otherwise that statement wouldn't be qualified with "so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me."
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:12 GMT
#829
On March 27 2014 19:06 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 18:24 Holyflare wrote:
the bolded part is absolutely true and this also classifies as palmar laying "a trap" (i.e not read role pm so anyone making case on me is actually mafia) is a trap. Which palmar disliked (whether joking or not) earlier on rayn. So do we policy/scum lynch him now?

I never intended to really reveal that I hadn't read my role pm, I've done it without saying anything about it before. It's not a trap because I never intended to catch anyone. The reason I didn't post more than I did had nothing to do with whether or not I know my alignment.


so why is marv mafia for pointing out things you've done this game especially as you agree with like half of them?

also you didn't answer this:

On March 27 2014 17:25 Holyflare wrote:
and palmar if marv didn't make this push on you and he wasn't in the game, who would be mafia? because you aint said shit about it and marv has been a relatively little bit of the posting in the thread so far

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:14 GMT
#831
also 9 pages, I can afk now!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:23 GMT
#838
On March 27 2014 19:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 19:01 Holyflare wrote:
this is nothing to do with palmar it's all about you

if he could prove to you that he was towny for you to mention that point in the first quote then all the stuff that happened in the game before that quote wouldn't be actual scum palmar points because then they must be stuff towny palmar can do too otherwise that statement wouldn't be qualified with "so I'd prefer it if you were actually town and could show me."

Are you actually mafia? I'm finding it hard to believe you are genuinely this idiotic


boo hoo marv gets asked a question

respond to it tard head
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:25 GMT
#842
On March 27 2014 19:23 marvellosity wrote:
there wasn't a question, there was a moronic statement.


please point out to me where it's moronic because if palmar could prove his townieness to you by way of looking towny later then all of the points you made become irrelevant to a scum read for you because he could do that as town palmar too

so no marv it's not moronic, you are just being extremely obtuse
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:26 GMT
#844
yes you are
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:28 GMT
#847
On March 27 2014 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
unless your argument is that whenever you think someone is mafia, there is a 0% chance they prove you wrong later??


so mafia get given an out to appear towny and contribute and then sit back and do more of the same?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:31 GMT
#851
hey palmar open your role pm
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:32 GMT
#853
On March 27 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 19:31 Holyflare wrote:
hey palmar open your role pm

Why? it's irrelevant now isn't it?


no?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:35 GMT
#858
On March 27 2014 19:34 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
On March 27 2014 19:29 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 19:20 marvellosity wrote:
Also explained how you went after me is not how you would do it if you were town.

Ez pz.

Your theory that I would come hard after you, probably with an actual case as town is so ridiculous because the point is that you didn't say anything for a long time.

I was actually expecting you to say something so I could explain why it's bad. Now I have and you keep rehashing your initial points. It doesn't make them valid.

Or that you would omgus me properly rather than pussyfooting around it. And by this I meant, actually probably call me scum or stupid rather than making me get you to do it. Also already explained.

Yeah but how can I reasonably call you scum or stupid when you refuse to provide any content to back up your stupidity.

I said as much "my entire case on you is that you called me mafia".


well that's where it falls flat because marv doesn't call ppl mafia as mafia he gets other ppl to do it for him and pushes "suspicions" to make people do it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 27 2014 10:36 GMT
#860
On March 27 2014 19:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 19:32 Holyflare wrote:
On March 27 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:
On March 27 2014 19:31 Holyflare wrote:
hey palmar open your role pm

Why? it's irrelevant now isn't it?


no?

But that's like cheating

no you copy paste it and get yourself killed so we can lynch thrawn and end the game on day 1
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