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On March 27 2014 15:55 thrawn2112 wrote: how do you think we're supposed to figure out your alignment? you can't just do this to become lynch-immune No I know, which is why I generally don't claim it when I do, I do it occasionally in games where the role doesn't matter at all on day 1. | ||
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On March 27 2014 17:16 Holyflare wrote: so you checked your role pm and you're scum right? Still haven't, not really gonna do it until night falls. | ||
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On March 27 2014 17:13 phagga wrote: Palmar - might be scum. I don't know what he is doing or what he hopes to achieve, but it doesn't really remind me of town Palmar, and I cannot see a townie motivation behind is behaviour What AM I doing? This is the most blanket statement read I have ever seen, there is literally not a single word of actual content in here. | ||
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Here's ( http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/446774-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-ii?page=6#101 ) marv's first real post of the game and I do not like. Does marv really expect that gumshoe must be voting for palmar this early based on what gumshoe has said? This question seems a little stupid for marv. What difference does a vote make? I'm reading through thrawn's spoilers (in the 1st one now) and I really like just about everything he's saying. | ||
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On March 27 2014 18:12 phagga wrote: You have been bickering with Marv and never tried to put your thoughts into the thread. You were useless over several pages, and that's not how you play as town. Also I completely agree with marvs case on you. I was useless for "several pages" because I wasn't being talked to. | ||
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On March 27 2014 18:24 Holyflare wrote: the bolded part is absolutely true and this also classifies as palmar laying "a trap" (i.e not read role pm so anyone making case on me is actually mafia) is a trap. Which palmar disliked (whether joking or not) earlier on rayn. So do we policy/scum lynch him now? I never intended to really reveal that I hadn't read my role pm, I've done it without saying anything about it before. It's not a trap because I never intended to catch anyone. The reason I didn't post more than I did had nothing to do with whether or not I know my alignment. | ||
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On March 27 2014 18:54 marvellosity wrote: my first does not imply it's anything to do with activity, it implies that palmar is capable of being townie and showing me he is townie. why is this hard to comprehend? For someone whose case is almost thoroughly founded it knowing me really well don't you think it's unreasonable to expect me to ignore some random dude calling me mafia and refusing to explain why and expect me to go merrily along my way doing other things in the thread? | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:11 phagga wrote: But Robik wanted to talk to you! Ah yeah, wait, we already know the answer: Well, if you had no time, how come that you posted 21 posts in the next 54 minutes in the thread after the below post? You were clearly reading the thread and found time to post, but still you chose not to interact with robik. There is a difference between having time to one-liner argue with marv and having time to discuss and confirm reads. I know how I feel and I explained to robik that I did not agree entirely with his conclusion from the hf/rayn stuff, but I wasn't really into it I admit. | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote: so why is marv mafia for pointing out things you've done this game especially as you agree with like half of them? also you didn't answer this: There's only two mafia in the game. If marv is one of them and he probably is you're asking me to identify one guy. Maybe thrawn? Although I'm sort of coming around on him based on his spoilered summaries of the game. Maybe phagga? His read on me was complete bullshit. Robik is a possibility too, although I generally agree with rayn's read on him, I hadn't considered the part rayn mentioned about Robik being really proud of his read, ie: Robik was really, really into his read on rayn. Maybe prplhz or rayn? I don't think you/gumshoe are likely and I really doubt it's robik. Maybe I'm mafia. Maybe marv is scum with me and mad I'm not responding in the QT and decided to call me scum, that'd be super epic if he had the presence of mind to do that  so why is marv mafia for pointing out things you've done this game especially as you agree with like half of them? Not sure what you mean, yes we agree on a few town reads, but his read on me makes him mafia, especially how he went about it. If he was at all interested in finding out my alignment he would have said "look you're mafia because of this and this" immediately which would've let me respond immediately. And at the time marv's entire case was just activity and some point I don't even understand about me looking at previous games. | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:22 marvellosity wrote: Completely untrue. Carry on though, more fuel for the fire :> Yeah my bad, I forgot I didn't tunnel the fuck out of gumshoe because I'm disallowed from changing my mind. I think that also happened before you called me mafia. Everything else in the case you wrote happened after you started calling me mafia and cannot by definition have been part of your initial case. | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:18 phagga wrote: Can you explain us why you tell us that you have not read the role PM? Because I already knew I hadn't said anything that was contradictory or could otherwise be interpreted as something scummy. Also marv is really, really hard to lynch as mafia, especially on day 1 | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:20 marvellosity wrote: Also explained how you went after me is not how you would do it if you were town. Ez pz. Your theory that I would come hard after you, probably with an actual case as town is so ridiculous because the point is that you didn't say anything for a long time. I was actually expecting you to say something so I could explain why it's bad. Now I have and you keep rehashing your initial points. It doesn't make them valid. | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:31 Holyflare wrote: hey palmar open your role pm Why? it's irrelevant now isn't it? | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:30 marvellosity wrote: Or that you would omgus me properly rather than pussyfooting around it. And by this I meant, actually probably call me scum or stupid rather than making me get you to do it. Also already explained. Yeah but how can I reasonably call you scum or stupid when you refuse to provide any content to back up your stupidity. I said as much "my entire case on you is that you called me mafia". | ||
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But that's like cheating  | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:32 phagga wrote: But what do you expect us to do with this claim? Seriously, Palmar, if the roles are reversed and I come out with this claim after being pushed as lynch, wouldn't you insta-vote me? Why do you expect us to believe this claim? If we are to believe it, you are basically lynch-immune this day, and you know that that is stupid as fuck. ##vote: Palmar I'm not lynch immune dude, if people want to lynch me they can. Thing is marv's case is based almost entirely on him knowing how I play as each alignment, and thus by definition it has to be wrong if I don't know my alignment. | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:36 marvellosity wrote: You've never needed to be reasonable to call me scum or stupid before. What a terrible argument. Still mad I made you ragequit? That was a perfectly reasonable case, in that iteration of my "how to read marv" book my theory was that if you were useless on day 1 you were scum. My current iteration assumes that you will always point out something that is very smart and insightful on day 1, a la your point about Toad in default suspicion. So, assuming I'm your scumread, I was waiting for something cool to pop up! or well, I was mostly waiting for you to say something so I could smack it down and call you mafia. | ||
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On March 27 2014 19:36 Holyflare wrote: no you copy paste it and get yourself killed so we can lynch thrawn and end the game on day 1 I aint scum! | ||
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I'm improvising here. | ||
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