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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2014 11:00 GMT
#1281
On March 28 2014 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
ok, so I went back and checked Palmar. He never particularly gave an opinion on thrawn other than "fair enough I get it now", and randomly voted for him in the voting thread based on that and nothing else, and later went back to omgusing me.

I feel pretty much vindicated in saying what I said about not reading much/anything into this.

If thrawn is mafia, it's not because of this.


Right... And palmar wouldn't be more omg he a liar kill kill kill? Than that meek crap?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 11:01 GMT
#1282
no, he wouldn't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 11:01 GMT
#1283
or maybe he would.

the point is, you can't possibly know, which makes it a non point.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 11:04 GMT
#1284
Look at Palmar's play this game - did it look like he had the heart for it?

And then marv is calling him mafia already not very long into the day. God, how depressing. Maybe Palmar cba to put up a front.

Maybe Palmar wanted to incriminate thrawn by not going "omg kill a liar kill a liar" because he guessed I would get him lynched in the end anyway. Maybe he didn't even really understand why whatever you said was a lie and he just said he understood, which is why he couldn't go full balls at it.

Maybe many explanations which say something, nothing, or everything about thrawn's alignment whether it be town or mafia. Who knows?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2014 11:04 GMT
#1285
On March 28 2014 16:32 Holyflare wrote:
And you did lie. It's the simple truth. You said your vote occurred for one reason at a specific time when it occurred at another time for different reasons. Palmar agreed with this. If palmar agreed with it he agreed with you being a liar in which case he would lynch you.
He didn't do that.

If he "town" slipped you the first thing you'd do would be to point that out and eliminate yourself from suspicion.

This is your lie thrawn. It doesn't matter about you giving reasons or no reasons earlier. You tell us in your later post about your original reasons for voting rayn but those reasons didn't correlate with what you did at all.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 11:05 GMT
#1286
On March 28 2014 20:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 16:32 Holyflare wrote:
And you did lie. It's the simple truth. You said your vote occurred for one reason at a specific time when it occurred at another time for different reasons. Palmar agreed with this. If palmar agreed with it he agreed with you being a liar in which case he would lynch you.
He didn't do that.

If he "town" slipped you the first thing you'd do would be to point that out and eliminate yourself from suspicion.

This is your lie thrawn. It doesn't matter about you giving reasons or no reasons earlier. You tell us in your later post about your original reasons for voting rayn but those reasons didn't correlate with what you did at all.

ok thrawn, if you can succinctly answer this accusation in particular, that would be great. I'd like to wrap my head around this once and for all :x
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 28 2014 11:06 GMT
#1287
when i voted for rayn i did not tell the thread why i voted for rayn
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 28 2014 11:06 GMT
#1288
On March 28 2014 20:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 20:04 Holyflare wrote:
On March 28 2014 16:32 Holyflare wrote:
And you did lie. It's the simple truth. You said your vote occurred for one reason at a specific time when it occurred at another time for different reasons. Palmar agreed with this. If palmar agreed with it he agreed with you being a liar in which case he would lynch you.
He didn't do that.

If he "town" slipped you the first thing you'd do would be to point that out and eliminate yourself from suspicion.

This is your lie thrawn. It doesn't matter about you giving reasons or no reasons earlier. You tell us in your later post about your original reasons for voting rayn but those reasons didn't correlate with what you did at all.

ok thrawn, if you can succinctly answer this accusation in particular, that would be great. I'd like to wrap my head around this once and for all :x


i really don't quote understand what he's getting at
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2014 11:07 GMT
#1289
............
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 11:09 GMT
#1290
ok Holy can you explain it in like 3 bullet points or so? Or just quote the post where you lay it out most succinctly?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 28 2014 11:11 GMT
#1291
On March 28 2014 16:32 Holyflare wrote:
And you did lie. It's the simple truth. You said your vote occurred for one reason at a specific time when it occurred at another time for different reasons. Palmar agreed with this. If palmar agreed with it he agreed with you being a liar in which case he would lynch you.
He didn't do that.

If he "town" slipped you the first thing you'd do would be to point that out and eliminate yourself from suspicion.

I totally agree with the red part. It doesn't matter if thrawn lied or not. It matters that Holyflare says thrawn lied, Palmar agrees with this. Everyone (including thrawn) knows Palmar wants to lynch all liars. Palmar did not want to lynch someone he thought was a liar.

Why does thrawn NOT point that out? Now that would be townie. Ignoring the whole thing is not regardless of if thrawn in fact lied or not.
table for two on a tv tray
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 28 2014 11:11 GMT
#1292
ok. i think i understand,

i had two reasons why i thought rayn was mafia. these reasons occured to me at different times, here is the order n which they occured

reason 1) the real reason i voted for him, which was becasue I thought the tone of his game post was extremely fake

then rayn says that none of it was a lie, that #2 was actaully true

reason 2) i thought what rayn said about robik was pretty dumb and beneath town rayn.


reason 2 is what I mentioned in the thead. I didn't not mentioned reason 1 because I am hesitant to tell mafia that i am voting for them off the tone of their posts, which is something they can easily change.

i don't undersatnd how any of that is a lie?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2014 11:11 GMT
#1293
On March 26 2014 17:31 Holyflare wrote:
thrawn you mafia bro:

Show nested quote +
the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content...


Rayns post is at 14:12
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 14:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:


Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 14:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
##unvote
##vote: rayn


thrawn's vote is at 14:22 after already questioning about the content at 14:19

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 14:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn are you scumreading robik? just say it if you are


so his vote came after all of that

thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 28 2014 11:12 GMT
#1294
uh didn';t not should just be "didn';t" lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 11:13 GMT
#1295
Does what thrawn just wrote answer that Holy? Or not?

(as you can tell, I still have no idea what's going on :D)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 28 2014 11:14 GMT
#1296
On March 28 2014 20:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
ok. i think i understand,

i had two reasons why i thought rayn was mafia. these reasons occured to me at different times, here is the order n which they occured

reason 1) the real reason i voted for him, which was becasue I thought the tone of his game post was extremely fake

then rayn says that none of it was a lie, that #2 was actaully true

reason 2) i thought what rayn said about robik was pretty dumb and beneath town rayn.


reason 2 is what I mentioned in the thead. I didn't not mentioned reason 1 because I am hesitant to tell mafia that i am voting for them off the tone of their posts, which is something they can easily change.

i don't undersatnd how any of that is a lie?

I think the red part is very bullshit because the argument basically cancels itself.
You are saying my mafia!tone is different than my town!tone, but then you say i am able to change it??
Like how can you deteremine if i have a mafia!tone or town!tone in the first place if i can choose?
table for two on a tv tray
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 28 2014 11:17 GMT
#1297
rayn.

if i think you are mafia becasue of the tone of your posts, and i tell you exactly how your tone is differernt... it logically follows that you will know what tone you need to post in in order to get me to town read you

the same happened with smiley djo in looney lynching. he;d never rolled scum before. he had the nickname smiley djo because of all the smileies he wrote. in looney lynching he was scum, and his first few posts had 0 smilies. i called him out on the fact that we didn't have smilies and that he was being much mroe serious

and guess what he did? hje starte cinluding smiles and became much mroe jovial, and he survied till endgame and scum won
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 28 2014 11:17 GMT
#1298
thrawn explain to me what's different in my tone between these two posts:
On March 21 2014 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This game is called what would you do as town:

Scenario 1:
There is a big argument between two players in thread. You decide it's important regarding players alignments because you weigh in to the argument. What do you do?
1) Give your opinions on the players and tell which are good and bad. Say if someone looks scummy because of it or if it does not you point the thread to a different (right) direction.
2) Do not comment on the argumet at all, call one player out for it not really telling why or using some crap reasoning like "he should do something else". Call noone scum, give no better direction, throw a vote on someone, say "case later kthxye" and peace out.

Scenario 2:
You have a vote on your top scumread and people are waiting on your case. What do you do?
1) Make a case on your scumread, try to convince people on voting for him.
2) Make a case where you don't really call your scumread scum, continue discussing the scenario 1 matters, call another player out multiple times without calling calling him scum, defend/question a couple of other people on other things. peace out.

Scenario 3:
You have been out of the thread for a day. It's close to lynch, what do you do?
1) Make a case on your top scumread and try to convince people to vote for them, or weigh between the cases that are present and give resons why you sheep the best case.
2) Make a huge fucking case on someone who is not your top scumread. Then make another huge fucking case on your top scumread. In that case, say that this dude is definitely mafia regardless of this third guy's alignment. Proceed on voting for the third guy who you just said you are not even sure is mafia.



If you answered (1) more Giggletummy should be mafia.
If you answered (2) more you are mafia.

On March 26 2014 14:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is a game of two truths and i lie. In this post there is going to be one lie. You need to guess where:

1) I started using the smiley only lately, some moths or maybe half a year ago because i like how it looks. I don't remember who used it in mafia games (maybe it was marv?) but anyways someone did and i think the colored smiley it gives looks cute. Therefore i have almost abandoned every other smiley, while i normally prefer ^^ , ^_^ , or :D . I absolutely hate XD smiley because when i played brood war a lot in battle.net when someone used XD you could tell they were Spanish. I hated Spanish kids in brood war. They thought everyone can speak español and they ended every single thing they said with XD or XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXD. Only thing they could say in English was "ally end" when they were about lo lose and i was about to ruin their precious stats. I refused to understand English at that point and started talking in Finnish. Anyways that smiley makes me see red every time i see it, except for when gumshoe does it. Just because gumshoe is so adorable.

2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong.

3) I think this is absolutely the worst post in thread:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 13:22 Holyflare wrote:
So why do you not mention that rayn is super town based on x, y, z but instead mention that you read him as town from an alignment null post? Were you lying?


Both posts are written in the exact same mindset (i was having fun but i also wanted to make an informative post).
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 28 2014 11:20 GMT
#1299
I hope you're having fun thrawn
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 28 2014 11:22 GMT
#1300
the 2nd is overly happy and generally annoying to read and comprehend whereas 1 makes sense and is serious and much mroe related to actual scumhunting
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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