World Heavyweight Championship Mafia II - Page 4

On March 26 2014 16:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Maybe you should check again because this is untrue.

Let me say in different words what rayn said: "I don't believe the smilie thing is a reliable tell, but we'll see about that when / if he does that in a couple more games and if he's right or wrong". That's how I understood it at least.

It's possible that you just misunderstood that second sentence, but rayn told you (at least once, perhaps even several times) that you are misreading it, and you just kept on pushing your points.

On March 26 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote:
well that is what you are saying unless you are implying it to be true in future games instead and in that case it is badly phrased

On March 26 2014 14:29 Holyflare wrote:
and then you in fact have a town read on someone that called out your alignment based on a smiley face when he said he's only ever seen you play mafia once and never seen you play town so this read is actually 0% true because it has no backed up relevance for him to say

On March 26 2014 16:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The second quote is referring to this game and to another situation.

On March 26 2014 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the last time, this is what Robik is saying:

"In last two games i have played with rayn he put a smiley on a place it did not belong in one of his first posts. Both times i called him out of it and i think that is indicative of him being mafia if he does so because he was mafia in those two games and that felt so off to me. In those games - at first - i was not 100% sure if he is mafia because of it but i now trust i can read him based on that (because i was right twice already).

In this game, if rayn was mafia, i think he would have put a smiley after his first post of the game. He didn't, so i think it's indicative of him being town. He hasn't put a smiley in places they "do not belong" after that, and nothing in his posts seems scummy, so that strengthens my read. In fact, the post he used a smiley in this game i think the smiley belonged there and it was not forced (which is the scumtell i recognize from earlier games with him)."

Now why is this simple logic so fucking hard to understand?

On March 26 2014 16:51 phagga wrote:

(1) So basically you have the same interpretation of that sentence now as I do?
(2)
But he has meanwhile explained his read, why is that not good?

On March 26 2014 16:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have laready told why i think thrawn is mafia. How about you read my posts instead of arguing about nonsense Holyflare?

On March 26 2014 16:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That is a complete misrepresentation of what i have said about thrawn's play.

On March 26 2014 16:54 phagga wrote:


Again, you are either not reading correctly or twisting around words: Robik said "in the firsts posts, not the first post.

On March 26 2014 16:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That is a complete misrepresentation of what i have said about thrawn's play.

On March 26 2014 15:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To clarify. I think Holyflare is "capable" of using shitlogic like this because i have seen him doing that as town before. For example Holyflare defended vivax in the last game based on something he didn't know fuck about, he only knew half of the story.

thrawn however does not do this as town. He is mostly laid back, doesn't jump onto conclusions with incomplete informatio. Remember, that has nothing to do with maked bad calls (like in LXIV: restart) based on complete picture. I am talking about filling the puzzle with something he makes up himself. In fact the only time i have seen him do this is as mafia in Extractor trick which made me instantly catch him. And i think we have just seen the same thing here.

On March 26 2014 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So here you literally prove you have no idea why i am townreading Robik and have no intention of figuring that out. In my "game" post i never explain why i townread Robik, it's pretty clear from that post. You are too smart to make dumb conclusions based on incomplete information and that's why i think you are mafia.

On March 26 2014 17:08 phagga wrote:

That's only half his post, are you not reading the rest or what?

You're the one still pushing the point with the first post and the smiley, so why is it suddenly redundant?

On March 26 2014 13:13 IAmRobik wrote:

I mean...I agree that palmar is scum, but I disagree with your whole post. I took Rayn's post as a town claim, and I read him town from it (cause I'm the sick-nastiest at tone reads....and I read Rayn like a boss).

On March 26 2014 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Someone explain why thrawn's post is full of shit. You get +100 townie points.

On March 26 2014 17:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? what....the....fuck?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

On March 26 2014 17:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think we need to policy lynch Holyflare for the sake of this game's sanity.
But only on D2, D1 we lynch mafia.
I am not sure if Holyflare is mafia (inb4 he claims "rayn knows i am town").

On March 26 2014 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No it's not because before this thrawn has voted for me.
Later on whehe he explains why he voted for me he does not say "at first it was pressure (or whatever) and seemed a bit scummy and then rayn did not explain himself despite me asking him to do so". He has really no intention of figuring out what i mean, i even say multiple times "you don't even know why i have a townread on Robik" yet he still assumes he knows why and does not ask me why nor does he re-think his vote.