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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
I wouldn't have caught him on merit alone though. I had a post later in the /obs QT about the LYLO pairings; the only way I'd have really caught OK was working with my scumread on Robik and townreads on sqrt and Valenius and then working backwards through the pairings (Robik is trying to get Tolkien lynched at LYLO over sqrt, so they're not partners, ergo Robik/OnceKing scumteam). | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
But there's a high chance it's not especially useful (what if he gets an OPPOSITE result? or you don't catch scum before D3?), and it was virtually certain to be a distraction in D2 and beyond. (Say what y'all will, here and in the QT; I'm not convinced, especially given the ending here, that people would have successfully sat aside the cop discussion and looked around elsewhere.) I'm not defending the lynch as right, obviously since Cavalinho WAS the cop it was wrong, but I'm not convinced this was nearly as open-and-shut as everyone is acting like it is. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
On April 03 2014 07:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think the Day 1 lynch was by far the worst. A cop claim on D1 should never get lynched. Let scum sort it out. D2 was understandable, and D3 as well other than the fact that Robik didn't flip his shit despite his candidate not getting lynched should ring some bells. I was actually planning on flipping shit and trying to convince valenius to swap, but then I realized I'd rather mislynch a cop AND a medic...it just looks nicer on the stat sheet  | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
On April 03 2014 07:51 RolandJarvis wrote: I didn't read day 3 but I thought everybody town played fine or better Except me. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On April 03 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote: I was actually planning on flipping shit and trying to convince valenius to swap, but then I realized I'd rather mislynch a cop AND a medic...it just looks nicer on the stat sheet Oh I can't argue with you there. You were really in no danger anytime during the game. You played the players well. | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On April 03 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote: I was actually planning on flipping shit and trying to convince valenius to swap, but then I realized I'd rather mislynch a cop AND a medic...it just looks nicer on the stat sheet There was no way I was not voting sqrt today, and no way I was not going to vote you the day after. I got bored towards the end and had no energy to actually read anything, so tried to drop as many mini-scum tells as I could to entertain myself  | ||
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OnceKing
United States939 Posts
I think you just need to start standing up for yourself and trying to be confident sooner! | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On April 03 2014 08:20 Valenius wrote: There was no way I was not voting sqrt today, and no way I was not going to vote you the day after. I got bored towards the end and had no energy to actually read anything, so tried to drop as many mini-scum tells as I could to entertain myself I think everyone was trying to claim scum at the end | ||
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sqrtofneg1
Canada1159 Posts
On April 03 2014 08:20 OnceKing wrote: I think you just need to start standing up for yourself and trying to be confident sooner! haha very funny. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
Also, if you read scum qt, I was very very close to claiming medic on n2 because I knew that sqrt would have to claim that day. | ||
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RolandJarvis
65 Posts
No I definitely don't exclude you. I think you did enough to clear yourself. I'm not saying you made it easy, no. If you read some of my second half of the game you'll see I am trying to figure you out. Unfortunately my musings were interrupted. If I did get there it would be because you were just saying what you thought, and saying it with conviction. It didn't match what anybody else was saying. It didn't match what anybody wanted to hear. This is good in my book. | ||
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Valenius
United Kingdom1266 Posts
Day 2 was such a disappointment, I had no idea what more to do. And Roland.. I was ready to sign a contract saying I will policy lynch you in any future game.. your responses actually wound me up that much. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
The only other thing I find believable is Val and OK, or Robik and OK, and that requires quite some WIFOM do to their day 1 moves. I should have believed in the WIFOM, because the first Day 1 exchange was pretty damn ridic and I don't know why I wrote them off as being mafia together because of it initially. It should've been a telltale sign, and I really should have tried to question the sqrt lynch. If I had the time to sit down and REALLY scrutinized my own reads and other people's analysis, I feel I could've won this for town, but I didn't have/do either. So ye, I feel like I really dropped the ball here HARD (and hypocrisy since my D2 was entirely devoted to trying to get people to fking post, Pixal pls wtf). Lessons I've learned from this game: 1) How to approach blue role claims. AKA not lynch them. Huehuehue. Story of this game is "town decides to lynch ALL da blues". And more importantly, learn to discern blue from scum. This is my first mafia game since LII, so that should tell you how little I generally play mafia, and how much I need to improve on in general. 2) That I now apparently have a scummy town D1 meta. Lynch me next game if I appear town D1 gaiz (if I actually have time to play, mafia too exhausting and time-consuming). 3) Lend more weight to nightkills and their implications. 4) l really, REALLY should believe in the WIFOM. Especially something as obvious as that, but I really didn't believe that scum would be so forward Day 1 and be the center of attention. 5) how2scumbait (don't) http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/227Jz8ekq7iaT For my coach QT. In general, D1: I just don't feel Cav put together an adequate defense and his posting pattern made me misread him (sorta again), and I felt a parity cop is less impactful and guaranteed than a cop, and a blue role with no impact should have no bearing on (edit: his lynch at the time. I mean there's not much else I could do because I was the other candidate [and I apparently can't vote myself], and no one was swapping onto sqrt at the time so...In hindsight, it would've been to lynch myself, or oneo f hte two blues. lulz, mafia played well this game). And my view going into D3 is that there was a coinflip chance the RB claim and medic claim was bogus even without a counterclaim, and thus I chose to rely on my then-present reads, which was fk that, I'm pretty sure he's scummy. As was pointed out in obs QT, I should've noticed his consistent medic pattern, but hindsight 20/20 (and you gaiz got a mod confirm for him), or gone for my other scum read (Robik), even if only to check reactions. Also, Howard. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On April 03 2014 08:25 IAmRobik wrote: I was VERY VERY close to saying "I am town.................APRIL FOOLS" on April fools day and just let OK try to win it on his own to try to make the game more interesting, but decided against it. Also, if you read scum qt, I was very very close to claiming medic on n2 because I knew that sqrt would have to claim that day. If you claimed medic on N2 you would've been dead because you didn't give sqrt's rb claim any attention. Balla told me you were planning on claiming to be rbed both nights | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
D2: ...I have no words. NO WORDS. | ||
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