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On April 03 2014 07:07 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 07:05 Blazinghand wrote:On April 03 2014 07:05 OnceKing wrote:On April 03 2014 07:03 Eden1892 wrote:
C'mon guys Robik was obvious.
OnceKing I thought was kinda easy to see too but I can understand missing him.
GG scumteam thanks for shooting me N1 NOT mad  let's keep it constructive, guys. Eden was shot because he was doing a good job of having reads and leading town; he was a good shot. If you get shot n1 as a townie, it's typically because scum is afraid you'll catch them. Getting shot is a sign of respect. Can confirm. Same goes for RJ. We thought that sqrt would end up being a mislynch, so even though I read him as blue at the beginning of d1, we decided to keep him alive and keep RB'ing him instead of NK'ing him.
imo this was the right move all the way, only thing I might consider mixing up was shooting RJ over me N1 but either way I think we were the clear nk choices
sqrt was def. medic so gj reading that and shutting him down
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Yea Robik picked up on the fact that he kept talking about the doctor, once he pointed it out and I noticed it myself it became really obvious though if only because we're in a newbie.
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We put a lot of comments in obs! Some of them were poopy but a lot of them were not.
I thought the game was really interesting to watch and I kind of regret not playing in it. That said, I can't imagine what sort of crazy d1 we would have had if I was present during a fight about Cavalinho following another player's reads :D
sqrt were you doing WIFOM when you talked a lot about being doctor? I felt for a large portion of the game you were mafia pretending to be doctor.
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yep I'm reading through obs now
just got to the part where my name comes out :OOO
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RIP Eden 1992-2014 it was a gr8 run u shinin star in da sky goodnit swet princ
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How the hell did the cop end up getting lynched on D1?
Or like how did the town let it happen?
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Robik you were scum because you didn't save the cop while being there and because you said something like "these two are my top scumreads but hey let's vote for this third guy who makes sense with both of them!"
That was the post i saw when i looked at something in thread. 
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Okay, Eden and I talked about this a lot and it's in the obs qt a bit too. Despite my alignment I really don't think lynching the cop claim was as godawful as it seemed given how late into the day I think it came.
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Blazinghand
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You can always lynch a cop claim later. If he's really scum fakeclaiming that's fine, wait a couple days so the real cop has some checks. it's not like a scum fakeclaim can really last that long while pretending to be cop
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I told you guys to lynch the non-newbie..... 
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On March 14 2014 05:48 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 05:45 Blazinghand wrote:
clearly if Robik is ever alive D2 he is scum Oh cmon...Give me 1 more day. If i'm alive d3 of any game, just insta-lynch me cause I'm obviously scum (or I'm wrong and deserve to get lynched....but no really, i'm always scum)
confirmed
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On April 03 2014 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How the hell did the cop end up getting lynched on D1?
Or like how did the town let it happen?
Eden's rationale from obs:
"The issue with the cop claim is that I don't think scum have any reason to take care of him for town in this format. There's a 50% chance that there isn't a cop in the game at all and the guy is fakeclaiming and un-cc'd that way. For scum on the lynching block it's win-win to claim: either there is no cop (in which case you are un-cc'd and will probably be left alive) or the cop has to cc in order to seal the lynch (in which case you've significantly increased the return on your death). So it's literally just as likely as not that the guy is really the cop as it is that he's scum. That means the cop's results can't really be trusted, and consequently they can't add anything to the discussion, so the mafia have no reason to shoot him, all else being equal. The optimal play, according to that line of logic, is that you don't let the claim factor into your decision-making."
We went into a discussion on it in /obs mostly between Balla and Eden
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/urjkXwwSAmq
around /m113
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On April 03 2014 07:28 Amiko wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 07:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How the hell did the cop end up getting lynched on D1?
Or like how did the town let it happen? Eden's rationale from obs: "The issue with the cop claim is that I don't think scum have any reason to take care of him for town in this format. There's a 50% chance that there isn't a cop in the game at all and the guy is fakeclaiming and un-cc'd that way. For scum on the lynching block it's win-win to claim: either there is no cop (in which case you are un-cc'd and will probably be left alive) or the cop has to cc in order to seal the lynch (in which case you've significantly increased the return on your death). So it's literally just as likely as not that the guy is really the cop as it is that he's scum. That means the cop's results can't really be trusted, and consequently they can't add anything to the discussion, so the mafia have no reason to shoot him, all else being equal. The optimal play, according to that line of logic, is that you don't let the claim factor into your decision-making." We went into a discussion on it in /obs mostly between Balla and Eden http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/urjkXwwSAmqaround /m113
ehhh..
The cop dies N1 or N2 and if thewy don't you lynch them because they are mafia.
EDIT: Notice this comes from a guy who has lynched a couple of cops as town on D1 and D2 haha.
So it's like do as i say, don't do as i do.
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Yep I just checked back with the scum QT and we were talking about it but then it didn't matter 'cause Cav got lynched anyway
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gg scum team.
I didn't read day 3 but I thought everybody town played fine or better except for the day 2 lynch failing to vote and forcing our hand.
I was pretty surprised I died. I thought I was a solid mislynch possibility with no town clearing me.
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OnceKing I thought you were real good. You had lots of facts on your side from my POV. I was going to have to clear every other town to catch you.
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I think the Day 1 lynch was by far the worst. A cop claim on D1 should never get lynched. Let scum sort it out. D2 was understandable, and D3 as well other than the fact that Robik didn't flip his shit despite his candidate not getting lynched should ring some bells.
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Actually I wanted to shoot you because I feared you the most out of players remaining and didn't think I could get you mislynched. The fact that you were present and aggressively pushing onto people made you an important priority for me. I still need to get better at blue hunting and setup speculation, but thanks for the encouragement!
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Once, I think your opening was poor but I think you played a great game after that. I only considered you scum by PoE in the end.
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EPT
