Newbie Mini Mafia LIV - Page 4

On March 28 2014 03:31 OnceKing wrote:

Actually I disagree. The list is basically a fancy way to avoid saying what he thinks of Eden and you. Not to mention that he said he'd get back to Eden and he didn't.

On March 28 2014 05:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Scum team is Cavalinho and Robik.

Cavalinho because he hasn't been scumhunting all game and because he never really addressed the case I built against him back earlier in the day. Case is obvious and has been elaborated on at length, no worries here.

Robik because he came in and knocked the Cavalinho lynch off-course, and I later got him to admit Cavalinho was scummier than his target Pixalated (which was a weak target to settle on anyway), but now he's voting for Tolkien who he has as less scummy than Cavalinho. Their interaction at the beginning that I harassed Cavalinho over makes more sense now that I have Robik as the other scum; they were both fishing for an easy case against OnceKing and Cavalinho just followed Robik's lead. I've also been getting a really weird feeling about how Robik comes in acting like this badass at mafia, but whenever he talks to me he's just a monstrous pussy afraid to challenge me. Only makes sense if he's mafia and knows he can't afford to fuck with me.

If Cavalinho flips scum then kill Robik tomorrow for sure. If he doesn't then I'll reassess but I'm really confident now in both of them being the scumteam.

On March 28 2014 05:43 Eden1892 wrote:
zzz I don't care about whether you bm or not, it's not about that. (Although I wish you would, and could without getting warned, because I think it'd be fucking hilarious.) You've been not-a-douche to everyone, that's not the point. Your attitude toward me during the game has definitely been a lot more deferential than it has to the other players. There's a difference between "not bm" and "being deferential." You're scared of challenging me because I put the press on you early and it shows. Town!Robik wouldn't be afraid to challenge me.

Why do you give a shit about me getting on an easy wagon if you're sure that wagon is scum? You know there's no way in hell that Cavalinho and I are the scumteam.

On March 28 2014 06:11 Eden1892 wrote:

...no? We're lynching Cavalinho. That's plain fact looking at the votes right now. The only wrong answer here is refusing to answer.

On March 28 2014 07:15 Eden1892 wrote:
As for reads I'm sticking with Robik as mafia, the behavioral tells at the end here look really bad. The complete 180 from "you're good town Eden" to "fuck you you don't deserve the privilege of playing with me ever again you useless shit" because I decided I didn't believe him cannot possibly be town. I draw no new information from his protection of the parity cop for the same reason we had to lynch Cavalinho to confirm his claim -- the parity cop claim can't work itself out in a game with nine people, so the mafia has no reason to fear it, and has strong incentive to come out in defense of the claimant. I could equally argue, on this particular point, that Robik is town and made the correct read on Cavalinho, or that Robik is mafia trying to get town credit for making the ostensibly "correct" play in protecting a PR claim.

So in absence of that I'm returning to my previous behavioral analysis. I think he's mafia.

This clears Tolkien and Pixalated to me because there's no reason why mafia!Robik would push mafia!Tolkien or mafia!Pixalated over town!Cavalinho that hard, imo. I'm also pretty confident about OnceKing and Jarvis being town. The final mafia there would be sqrt or Valenius, and my bet would be Valenius simply because I don't think mafia!Robik would just town clear sqrt for nothing *and* that sqrt would call it out and demand he revise his read.

On March 28 2014 07:30 Eden1892 wrote:

Explain to me how going from

to

because I started disagreeing with you is at all town behavior.

If that's not what you're referencing, then explain how I'm twisting anything around, because that's the only part that's remotely contentious about what I said. I said your actions re: the cop claimant are null and they aren't a factor in my read, so there's no twisting of that set of actions going on, and everything else is derivative from my scumread on you.

On March 28 2014 07:32 Eden1892 wrote:
More telling is the fact that five people voted to kill cop claimant Cavalinho. Of those five, Robik has singled me out for it, and in the process did a complete 180. The correlation here, of course, is that I'm the only player of the five that's scumreading him.

It's obvious what's really motivating him here. He's mafia, and caught, and doing everything he can to discredit me.

On March 28 2014 23:31 Eden1892 wrote:

You should at least state your suspicions in case you're nightkilled.

On March 29 2014 01:09 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I can only post close to the deadline because of legitimate time constraints tonight,

But to Robik and Valenius:



AKA LII Newbie Mafia writeup we all should have read.

The correct play is TO be talking about it.

On March 29 2014 01:30 Eden1892 wrote:

This is completely backwards; the optimal thing in that situation would be for you to shoot me, so I die after having said you're town. If I withheld my change of heart on you then my death would send the direct opposite message from what I wanted to send.