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Eden1892
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Eden1892
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Going to class soon and then I'm rereading the whole thread. I'm starting to get pissed off about this game because we have three wagons now (Tolkien, Cavalinho, sqrt) and two others (Valenius and Pixalated) that people are trying to start, way late in the phase. Seems like there's a lot of indecisiveness and general bullshit flying around here. It's really getting me mad how people are bitching about me "tunneling" when I'm obviously not, and then don't have a clear direction themselves for who needs to die instead. | ||
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On March 27 2014 23:01 IAmRobik wrote: I think that the trio of Cavalinho, LT and OK contain both mafia, although OKs post are growing on me as the game has progressed (specifically his last post where he outlines why he thinks Valenius is mafia -- a sentiment I disagree with). As long as we are lynching between Cav and LT, I'm happy throwing my vote down on either one of them by the end of the day. Let's just make sure that AT LEAST one of them is a wagon for today. Okay, so obviously this is outdated since you have Pixalated as one scum. Let's assume you drop OnceKing from the list here (you seem to be softening on him). Now you've got one of Cavalinho or Lord Tolkien as the other scum. But! Earlier you said: On March 27 2014 00:53 IAmRobik wrote: The number of people suspicious of (myself included), and voting for, cavalinho is a bit unnerving. I do agree that he's been the scummiest, but I've yet to see someone defend him (other than maybe LT). IDK. I'm getting the heebie jeebies from this. 1) Do you think Cavalinho is town or scum? 2) If you think Cavalinho is scum, what do you make of the fact that no one was contesting his lynch? 3) If you think Cavalinho is town, then according to your first quote from above, you should think the scum team is Lord Tolkien and Pixalated. If so: (a) How do you rationalize the fact that Pixalated had the correct reaction to Lord Tolkien's trap and subsequent pressure on LT? (b) Why are you by yourself on an outlier when your other scum read is one vote behind your town read? | ||
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Eden1892
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Followup: Why would Pixalated follow me onto his scum partner? Also, side question, this one is less pressing but it's sticking out so I figure I'll ask anyway. Why are you so pushy with other people but so soft with me? You almost seem scared of me. Not really GOAT behavior imo. | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 28 2014 02:44 IAmRobik wrote: Actually it did answer questions 1 and 2, but you clearly are focused on class and not this game, or you just don't give a fuck about reading what I wrote. No, I just wanted hard answers, not soft ones. Yes, I could imply reasonably well what your positions on 1) and 2) were from that sequence. No, I'm not going to do your homework for you. | ||
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Eden1892
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And okay, that's fine, I was genuinely curious about it is all. Your personality just seems more aggressive than this naturally. It seems similar to mine, but at the same time I think I would be more aggressive with myself than you are, so it's throwing me off a little. Probably nothing. | ||
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Eden1892
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I'm asking because I can see both of them independently being scum, but I can't see both of them being scum. | ||
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Eden1892
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scum: Cavalinho, Pixalated maybe scum: Lord Tolkien town: all else I know OnceKing might be off-base; you were fine with me moving him to your town pile in my questions but that might have been for sake of discussion. I think the rest is correct based off of reading your filter. | ||
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Eden1892
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On March 28 2014 03:07 IAmRobik wrote: meh....i'll concede that cava is more likely to be scum, but something is throwing me off about the way pixalated is playing the game and he is portraying a lot of scum tells. The whole situation with pixalated and LT makes me really really uneasy. I think Cavalinho's flip would tell us a lot about Pixalated and would help us figure out what's going on between Pixalated and Tolkien. Assuming you maintain that Cavalinho is more likely to be scum than Pixalated, then I believe the optimal move from your perspective is to get Cavalinho lynched. Do you follow me and if you do nonetheless disagree, what am I overlooking? | ||
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Eden1892
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I'm about ready to move back onto Cavalinho. I still don't like Tolkien at all here, but Jarvis made a really good point here about Cavalinho -- all of his posts throughout the day have been focused just on surviving the day. He doesn't actually look concerned about finding mafia. Even well after I moved off of him, he just seemed insistent on harping on my alleged "tunnel vision" with him (which doesn't even make sense given that I wasn't voting for him). And enough people (read: just about everyone) have assured me that Tolkien is just being a bad townie instead of actually mafia, with particular emphasis on him being bad at Day 1. I suppose given this I should give him the opportunity to demonstrate why I shouldn't kill him on Day 2. ##UNVOTE Lord Tolkien ##VOTE Cavalinho | ||
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Eden1892
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I'd really rather focus on either killing Cavalinho or deciding who else to kill instead. | ||
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On March 28 2014 04:32 Lord Tolkien wrote: Reread your tunneling posts Eden. youtube video, memes now pansy ass beta bitch. Thos is mafia but fking chill and tone it down. Im fne with heat but the insults are getting annoying Mocking terrible posts that attempt and fail, spectacularly, at responding to my points isn't tunneling. And I called you that to get you to say outright whatever the hell you're trying to imply with that comment about me "toeing the line of acceptable play." Like I said before, man up and say what it is you're meaning. I got no patience for cowards, alignment aside, and sniping with insinuations instead of straight shooting is cowardly. | ||
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Eden1892
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Cavalinho because he hasn't been scumhunting all game and because he never really addressed the case I built against him back earlier in the day. Case is obvious and has been elaborated on at length, no worries here. Robik because he came in and knocked the Cavalinho lynch off-course, and I later got him to admit Cavalinho was scummier than his target Pixalated (which was a weak target to settle on anyway), but now he's voting for Tolkien who he has as less scummy than Cavalinho. Their interaction at the beginning that I harassed Cavalinho over makes more sense now that I have Robik as the other scum; they were both fishing for an easy case against OnceKing and Cavalinho just followed Robik's lead. I've also been getting a really weird feeling about how Robik comes in acting like this badass at mafia, but whenever he talks to me he's just a monstrous pussy afraid to challenge me. Only makes sense if he's mafia and knows he can't afford to fuck with me. If Cavalinho flips scum then kill Robik tomorrow for sure. If he doesn't then I'll reassess but I'm really confident now in both of them being the scumteam. | ||
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Eden1892
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You called Cavalinho your top scum read then you're voting for Tolkien instead. K. For the rest of the town, a concise argument for why I want Robik out, and why, if I am alive tomorrow, I'm going after him hard: My confusion about the game state coincided with him barreling in and derailing the Cavalinho lynch and it only just left when I cross-examined him and finally got him to do something to solidify my suspicions. I felt like when I was reading through the ISOs of the players he wanted us to look at, I wasn't finding anything. I felt like when he got us off Cavalinho, the town lost its cohesion and direction. I felt like he realized early on that he couldn't put the blitz on me like he tends to do with weaker personalities, and that instead of trying anyway (town) he tried to subvert me by townreading me and being weirdly concessive and deferential (mafia). I never felt like my concerns with Cavalinho were truly satisfied and Robik's been waffling on Cavalinho ever since. I want to note though that a lot of this is contingent on Cavalinho flipping mafia; my case is weaker (but still solid I think) if Cavalinho is town. So if Cavalinho flips town and I get shot, don't just sheep me 'cause I got shot, step back and think about what I'm talking about here in light of the fact that Cavalinho is town and decide for yourselves if it makes sense. | ||
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Eden1892
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Why do you give a shit about me getting on an easy wagon if you're sure that wagon is scum? You know there's no way in hell that Cavalinho and I are the scumteam. | ||
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On March 28 2014 05:43 Cavalinho wrote: I have been asking you, almost since the beginning of the game, to clarify what parts of your case I was missing. You seem to completely ignore what I've been saying this entire time, and I've been concerned because I have been the focus this entire day. It's like you only see the parts of what people are saying that you want to see because you just want to consider yourself correct rather than be correct. Stop playing with your ego. It's time to stop, because I'm not getting lynched today. Now switch to LT. Hahahah, ordering me around, that's cute. Nah, vote stays on you. You haven't done anything to scumhunt or help town. Yeah the focus has been on you. So? You take it off of you by scumhunting. You haven't been doing that. | ||
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