Newbie Mini Mafia LIV - Page 3

On March 28 2014 01:34 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
How can LT vote for himself? I thought that was against the rules.

On March 28 2014 01:40 Eden1892 wrote:
Actually I guess ignore all of that.

Going to class soon and then I'm rereading the whole thread. I'm starting to get pissed off about this game because we have three wagons now (Tolkien, Cavalinho, sqrt) and two others (Valenius and Pixalated) that people are trying to start, way late in the phase. Seems like there's a lot of indecisiveness and general bullshit flying around here. It's really getting me mad how people are bitching about me "tunneling" when I'm obviously not, and then don't have a clear direction themselves for who needs to die instead.

On March 28 2014 01:40 RolandJarvis wrote:


If you think I'm mafia, and you want people to vote for me, nothing is more convincing than putting your own vote on me.

On March 28 2014 01:44 IAmRobik wrote:

I was planning on hammering the shit out of whoever I thought was more mafia at the end of the day if the wagons were close because I trust me to have the hammer than anyone else.

As for what I've brought to the table with Cava and LT...well...that doesn't really matter. I actually don't know if I've brought up any new content regarding them, I'd have to reread my posts. What I do know is that I have a pretty large town circle, and I'm happy lynching outside of it, and those two are DEFINITELY outside of it.

On March 28 2014 05:17 Eden1892 wrote:
Scum team is Cavalinho and Robik.

Cavalinho because he hasn't been scumhunting all game and because he never really addressed the case I built against him back earlier in the day. Case is obvious and has been elaborated on at length, no worries here.

Robik because he came in and knocked the Cavalinho lynch off-course, and I later got him to admit Cavalinho was scummier than his target Pixalated (which was a weak target to settle on anyway), but now he's voting for Tolkien who he has as less scummy than Cavalinho. Their interaction at the beginning that I harassed Cavalinho over makes more sense now that I have Robik as the other scum; they were both fishing for an easy case against OnceKing and Cavalinho just followed Robik's lead. I've also been getting a really weird feeling about how Robik comes in acting like this badass at mafia, but whenever he talks to me he's just a monstrous pussy afraid to challenge me. Only makes sense if he's mafia and knows he can't afford to fuck with me.

If Cavalinho flips scum then kill Robik tomorrow for sure. If he doesn't then I'll reassess but I'm really confident now in both of them being the scumteam.

On March 28 2014 05:43 Eden1892 wrote:
zzz I don't care about whether you bm or not, it's not about that. (Although I wish you would, and could without getting warned, because I think it'd be fucking hilarious.) You've been not-a-douche to everyone, that's not the point. Your attitude toward me during the game has definitely been a lot more deferential than it has to the other players. There's a difference between "not bm" and "being deferential." You're scared of challenging me because I put the press on you early and it shows. Town!Robik wouldn't be afraid to challenge me.

Why do you give a shit about me getting on an easy wagon if you're sure that wagon is scum? You know there's no way in hell that Cavalinho and I are the scumteam.

On March 28 2014 05:45 Eden1892 wrote:

Hahahah, ordering me around, that's cute.

Nah, vote stays on you. You haven't done anything to scumhunt or help town. Yeah the focus has been on you. So? You take it off of you by scumhunting. You haven't been doing that.

On March 28 2014 05:54 Eden1892 wrote:

I believe this

/s

On March 28 2014 06:06 IAmRobik wrote:
I refuse to talk about this claim other than that we're not lynching him. It should be blatantly obvious why talking about the claim is really fucking bad.

On April 03 2014 08:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I really do have to apologize since I basically let town down D3. Pretty shitty of me, but I didn't have time to post due to REASONS. And nothing really influenced my reads away from sqrt (I apologize for focusing you since D1 lol) and Robik. Should I have focused Robik first? Perhaps, but I just felt more strongly about sqrt, who I really do feel shouldn't have (edit: been so scummy/scurred).


I should have believed in the WIFOM, because the first Day 1 exchange was pretty damn ridic and I don't know why I wrote them off as being mafia together because of it initially. It should've been a telltale sign, and I really should have tried to question the sqrt lynch. If I had the time to sit down and REALLY scrutinized my own reads and other people's analysis, I feel I could've won this for town, but I didn't have/do either.

So ye, I feel like I really dropped the ball here HARD (and hypocrisy since my D2 was entirely devoted to trying to get people to fking post, Pixal pls wtf).

Lessons I've learned from this game:
1) How to approach blue role claims. AKA not lynch them. Huehuehue. Story of this game is "town decides to lynch ALL da blues". And more importantly, learn to discern blue from scum. This is my first mafia game since LII, so that should tell you how little I generally play mafia, and how much I need to improve on in general.

2) That I now apparently have a scummy town D1 meta. Lynch me next game if I appear town D1 gaiz (if I actually have time to play, mafia too exhausting and time-consuming).

3) Lend more weight to nightkills and their implications.

4) l really, REALLY should believe in the WIFOM. Especially something as obvious as that, but I really didn't believe that scum would be so forward Day 1 and be the center of attention.

5) how2scumbait (don't)

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/227Jz8ekq7iaT
For my coach QT.


In general,

D1: I just don't feel Cav put together an adequate defense and his posting pattern made me misread him (sorta again), and I felt a parity cop is less impactful and guaranteed than a cop, and a blue role with no impact should have no bearing on (edit: his lynch at the time. I mean there's not much else I could do because I was the other candidate [and I apparently can't vote myself], and no one was swapping onto sqrt at the time so...In hindsight, it would've been to lynch myself, or oneo f hte two blues. lulz, mafia played well this game).

And my view going into D3 is that there was a coinflip chance the RB claim and medic claim was bogus even without a counterclaim, and thus I chose to rely on my then-present reads, which was fk that, I'm pretty sure he's scummy. As was pointed out in obs QT, I should've noticed his consistent medic pattern, but hindsight 20/20 (and you gaiz got a mod confirm for him), or gone for my other scum read (Robik), even if only to check reactions.


Also,

Howard.