Doctor Who Mafia 2

On March 11 2014 08:35 Steveling wrote:
Can you guys explain more about the role changing and hydra things?

Also, is this game gonna happen? I don't see people signing in, Q_Q.

On March 30 2014 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
let's kill slam.

On March 30 2014 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm...

On March 30 2014 06:16 kitaman27 wrote:
Hello!

##Vote: raynpelikoneet

On March 30 2014 06:36 kitaman27 wrote:
Not providing an explanation for my vote, though someone should totally join me.



What makes you say that?

On March 30 2014 06:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam is mafia.

On March 30 2014 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now Slam is confirmed town.

On March 30 2014 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

wait how does talk text work?

On March 30 2014 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can fly to a wormhole, does that apply for having boobs?

On March 30 2014 07:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Voting for buddy vote. I don't like friends.

##Unovte
##Vote thrawn2112

On March 30 2014 08:24 Amiko wrote:
I'm back around and can talk.

@Alakaslam: Does your phone recognize the word chupazi?
@gumshoe: I am a good companion but I don't really have curves...
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On March 30 2014 09:26 kitaman27 wrote:






Slam, why did you suddenly back off once I moved my vote? I have no idea what you were saying about rayn to begin with, but what made you change your mind?

On March 30 2014 10:55 kushm4sta wrote:
alaka is scum because he is using normal sentence structure. voting him now.

On March 30 2014 11:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
you require other people to be here for you to post?

On March 30 2014 13:06 kitaman27 wrote:
Are you claiming survivor?

I can tolerate the craziness, but lying if you're not crosses the line.

On March 30 2014 13:08 thrawn2112 wrote:


why do you complaign about not being able to post because nobody is here then when people are here you don't post anything helpful

On March 30 2014 13:08 kitaman27 wrote:


Seriously, are you a survivor?

On March 30 2014 13:15 kushm4sta wrote:
yo alaka this isn't your blog

On March 30 2014 13:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
damn no luck with the reverse image search

slam maybe you should ask the bird who is mafia? tell me what he says please?

On March 30 2014 13:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
god this is impossible

On March 30 2014 23:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How is voting for a guy who is 100% not town and not likely to help the town (confirmed not helping atm) "worst reason ever"? Amybe Hopeless is just mafia. kush can say dumb shit but Hopeless..meh i'm not sure if i believe it.

On March 30 2014 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no "town third faction". You count towards town wincon, you had already claimed VT. You are trying to kill townies. It's pretty clear the town benefits from killing you.

ezpz.

On March 30 2014 23:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
towards = against

On March 30 2014 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not claim survivor and try to play like town. Backstab the town when/if it's beneficial to you later on.
Survivor is the most boring role in the game because the best play is impossible to achieve unless you wanna play dumb and pray and the second bets play (claiming) results in lynching you because you are a threat to the town.

On March 31 2014 01:03 Amiko wrote:
If someone dies in the game, does the flip reveal their current role or any role history / alignment change the player had? If you won't answer that's ok.

Massclaim


My answer is no - I don't see many (any?) advantages for this in a closed setup.
If it was a serious suggestion then I'm wiling to talk about it, though, and it looks like we are both on.


[u]Other Questions
@anyone what is LHF?
@kitaman27 I don’t see your original vote on thrawn2112 as scummy, but can you explain why you initially withheld your reasons for voting for thrawn (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21085439)?

On March 31 2014 01:06 kitaman27 wrote:


That was in response to a question about the rayn vote, not thrawn. Saying a random vote is random doesn't accomplish much, unless you're ready to move on.

Slam, could you post your role name, abilities, and win condition? If you don't do so, then you're working against town.

rayn, have you finished your research yet?

On March 31 2014 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

not gonna do it. 90% i will find nothing useful and i don't care about this game enough to test if the 10% gives me something.

On March 31 2014 02:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't care anyone thinks. I'll put myself on the copping block for saying if we massclaim it helps the town. Nobody is talking about 100% winning the game. It's about benefiting the town vs benefiting the scum. Massclaim always benefits town in high roled games, it doesn't matter what the roles are. I have played enough BYOR's and other shit to know it. But it's probably impossible to argue about it because noone will believe me anyways even if i can show 10 examples. So i don't care.

Toadesstern - town, not going to argue about this in this game any more
austinmcc - not posted
kitaman27 - started saying dumb stuff again
Hopeless1der - probably scum
thrawn2112 - seems town
JarJarDrinks - not posted
kushm4sta - town
Vivax - horrible opening
Djodref - not posted
Amiko - seems town. could focus onto something else than setup speculation. you need to either trust me or not, it's my ass on the line anyways so there is no need to "check" anything
gumshoe - trolled, i have no idea what he is doing
Tehpoofter - seemed town, i liked his proactiveness
Alakaslam - scum or anti-town, must lynch asap.

here are my reads. people who need to talk are not here.

On March 31 2014 03:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
tehpoofer are you okay for getting lynched if i flip town?
best argument; you refused to lynch a dude who is 100% not town and lynched town instead.

On March 31 2014 04:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
Slam will you flip town?

On March 31 2014 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yes i am trying to find mafia lla the time.

On March 31 2014 03:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
rayn is mafia because he wants to lynch people who are 50% not town versus any potential scum!!

Jesus christ best case 2014!!

On March 31 2014 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so apparently i am mafia because:
- I believed Slam's claim (incorrect)
- I am trying to lynch a dude who is 50% not town (rofl)
- I am going to stop scumhunting (incorrect)
- I posted heavily biased meaningless reads (lol)

On March 31 2014 03:56 Vivax wrote:
What if there's a traitor in the game and he can claim survivor cause town doesn't know that it's possible?

On March 31 2014 04:27 Amiko wrote:
@raynpelikoneet - Massclaims Continued
So I skimmed through the crossfire game linked by rayn. I do agree that the claims were beneficial to town in that game, but I feel my concerns from my earlier post are mostly still applicable. Rayn addresses the game setup here (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20200468) – there are a lot of distinctions, but these are the important ones, I think:
- In the prior game, people could confirm their claimed powers by affecting the vote count. In this game, we don’t know whether people can confirm they have powers they claim.
- In the prior game, there was not a risk of alignment change (unless I missed something). In this game, a town claim we believe may be converted into scum.
Some of my other concerns are still applicable, too (fabricated roles).

raynpelikoneet vote on Alakaslam
After thinking about it a little, I actually feel a little better about rayn’s justification for voting Alakaslam. I think we can summarize his argument as, Alakaslam may be scum (scum claiming survivor) or he may be survivor (3rd party) but we know he isn’t town, so he is a good/safe-ish lynch.

tehpoofter on raynpelikoneet
I really dislike poofter’s vote on raynpelikoneet.
One- I have trouble seeing rayn’s push on Alakaslam as scummy.
Two- I think the criticism of rayn for pushing slam lynch (and not focusing other people) doesn’t make much sense since rayn is doing other things (pushing for massclaim, giving reads, questioning players including me).
Three- I don’t disagree with your read that rayn saying he doesn’t care is scum – he actually did something pretty similar same thing in the game he linked and flipped scum there. However, I don’t put much into rayn’s “I don’t care” in that post because right after it he gives some reads.

Vote
I don’t feel great about the Alakaslam lynch, but I think it’s pretty good and is a def. a better lynch than rayn.
The two are vote tied so I’m going to

##Vote: Alakaslam

(I think it is a little sad we are lynching Alakaslam when he seems to be posting coherently though, shouldn’t we be encouraging that?)

@Alakaslam: Right now I don't want to lynch rayn. If we were going to lynch someone other than you two, who would you pick and why?

On March 31 2014 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The point is unless you are certain you can lynch mafia every day you HAVE to lynch Slam one day. Just because the closer to LYLO it gets the more mafia he becomes even if he is survivor. Also the longer the game goes the LESS POSSIBILITIES we have to actually lynch him, just because at some point there will be a point where you can't just lynch the survivor claim unless you think they are mafia because if you do you lose! With this playerbase i am not sure i or the town in general, especially after night kills, can lynch mafia every day, that's my honest opinion

Now if you have to lynch the survivor claim, the best play is to lynch the survivor claim on D1. Just because you have way better chances to lynch mafia on D2 than D1, based purely on the fact that you have 120 hours instead of 48 to find the first mafia. Basic logic. You have also night actions on N1 that might reveal something. You have also a GUARANTEED NON-TOWN D1 lynch. The survivor claim might even be mafia.

This has nothing to do with scumhunting. You just default your votes on Slam and play normally. Instead of having a 48h day we have a 120h day. People who stop playing because "lynch is already decided" are likely mafia because just because a lynch is "decided" does not mean you should stop playing until you see the results.

Sucks for Slam if he is survivor but he fucked up. The best play is to put votes on him, ignore him and focus on other stuff. we have a 120h D1. If someone claims scum or something we can always switch our votes.Easy, and definitely the best play.

Now this is the last time i explain this. Hope people understand.

On March 31 2014 04:01 Djodref wrote:


What if he is trying to ask me this question to get me talking, see where I am in my thought process, and try to infer my alignment from there ?
Would you be a little happier if I'm telling you I'm down with you to lynch Slam ? Because I feel like you could use a little love right now

And here are my reasons to lynch Slam.

• Good policy lynch => less trolling, less spam, and I'm not able to determine his alignment.
  
• VT claim and survivor claim => I don't think such roles exist in this game. I think everyone got a role (even a small one) in this heavily themed game, so I suspect both claims to be lies
  
• Even if he's town, I don't think like he would help us solve the game anyway (sorry Slam, but I would be glad if you prove me wrong)
  

## vote Slam

I understand that it would be more difficult to scumhunt if we decide to lynch Slam now, but I really think the discussion is not going to end here and I'm open to change my vote to pressure anyone else if needed.

My answer to Poofer incoming.

On March 31 2014 04:43 Djodref wrote:


This post from Toad makes me really think he is town. It looks genuine and he is not afraid to post something which could be turned against him, even if I would rather say that him being unable to vote is rather townish here. Usually the power of town lie in the votes (having the majority of them), but I don't think it's necessarily the case in this game.

On March 31 2014 04:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The irony is you are attacking townies so maybe you should just stop. All your arguments are "they try to lynch me boohoo". Well maybe you should have thought twice before claiming survivor.. There is a part of that post that pretty much proves Djodref is town.

On March 31 2014 05:56 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey guys what's up

On March 30 2014 13:49 Introvert wrote:


What counts is giving to those in need. There are a plethora of charities devoted to helping people for free, they make no statements about "deserving." Apparently unlike the average liberal, they can separate personal action and charity from government coercion. That's because Christianity has always had the view that people are responsible for their own actions but that one is to be generous to those in need. it doesn't say a word about government redistribution, or capitalism. That was my criticism.

There is evidence, if you want to find it. it's complicated though, because while churches do pay their pastors and staff, they also use a large sum of tithes to either improve the community or give to good causes. Never mind the man hours that church people put into helping charities.




Actually, you could. When you realize that government does a really bad job of redistribution, it makes perfect sense to have a religious and moral society that gives of it's own free will, instead of through the inefficient mechanisms of government. I also like the underlying assumption: that everyone who votes Republican "knows" they are screwing the poor over. Like I said, Christianity emphasizes personal giving and charity as well as "give to Caesar what is Caesar's"



It's not as simple as "Jesus hated wealth and rich people." He advocated that people GIVE their money. But yes, the Church had many laws dating from some of the Bible's teachings related to charging interest on other Christians. Though I'm not sure how that's relevant.




As they say, church is for sinners, not for saints


The point is that if you want to argue that Jesus was anti-wealth, you also need to propose a workable alternative, not the massive government failure we have now. Just saying "they are hypocrites!" doesn't help anyone. Nevermind how many people actually do make something of themselves under this system.

On March 31 2014 09:22 scott31337 wrote:
That ETT Ban was awesome and made my day...

On March 29 2014 08:21 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
My sixth toilet tale experience happened last night although this time it was a little different. It wasn't in a public bathroom, and I think it ended up being more a proud memory than a shameful one.

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I'd just like to say that one of my few true regrets in life is not signing up for FBLA sooner. Freshman year I had plans to join the military and do JROTC in highschool/ROTC in college, but I fell out two years later and dropped it at the end of the 11th grade. The military wasn't for me, and I wanted to grow out my hair.

This year I've been doing FBLA; it's a really practical organization that goes a long way to answering the age-old question you hear bored algebra students asking - "When are we going to learn something that matters?" You basically learn a wide variety of business-related subjects, anything from public speaking; to a hands-on, step-by-step guide to dressing for an interview; to selling a product.

The real main attraction was the state and national conferences, where you spend 2 and 3 days, respectively, in a hotel room and do presentations on a subject you like, and spend the rest of your time doing fuck-all. It seemed like a whole lot of fun based on the testimonies of my friends in the organization, and now that I've been through States (and qualified for nationals! Anyone else already in or going to Nashville this July?) I have to say it met and exceeded the huge amount of hype they built up for it.

But States is another matter - one that would take me more than the 100,000 character limit of a Team Liquid post to describe in its full excitement and horrors. So.... back to the shitting.

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Our story begins on Day One of States - last night. Now it isn't a public bathroom, but we still have about 10 people in our room either playing or watching poker. I'm in the toilet taking a shit, which goes normally in all ways up until I attempt to pull the flush.

Now I have a problem with clogging toilets. Public toilets for some reason are very low to the ground and have small exits, which are an inconvenience for my man shits. I eat a lot, and I shit a lot as a result.

So this toilet is firmly clogged. Nothing goes down the drain, nothing goes up. Except the water - that's going to creep up. Usually the blockage isn't 100% blocking the cross-section, and after a flush the water drains out through the gaps. So my usual strategy to deal with this when a plunger isn't available is to wait 5-10 minutes for the water to reset and try again.

Except the hotel toilet doesn't stop very quickly. The water keeps rising, slowly but surely, and I stand frozen in fear as the water eclipses the lip of the toilet bowl, and begins to drain out. I breathe a sigh of relief as the water recedes a little bit on the right, hoping it'll go down, but then realize that's only because it's all waterfalling out the left side.

The shit is still stuck in the drain. The water is pretty clean.

So my first plan is to wait out the flood and then deal with it, thinking it'll stop soon enough. But as the water covers more and more surface area and approaches my dress shoes, I do then only thing I can think of. I open the top off (thank god it's not one of those toilets where the tank is behind the wall), and quickly inspect the flushing mechanism. Looking for a solution, I shove my hand into the icy toilet tank water, jam the round piece the flushing chain is connected to, and seal a pipe of some sort by doing so. A few seconds later, the water finally slows and then stops flowing out. Success!

Of some sort, anyway. Half of the bathroom floor is covered in water, and it's a centimeter deep at its lowest point in the back left corner. The toilet is full to the brim, and only surface tension prevents a second waterfall from occurring.

How do I clean this up without alerting the other 10 occupants? With a towel, of course!

Our room sleeps 4, but I brought a towel of my own from home which meant we only needed 3 for showering. I grab the spare hotel towel (fuck no, not using my own, even if I deserve it) and soak it in the water. Icy water with a small hint of Type 3 shit instantly fills the whole towel, and the water recedes maybe two inches, with 4 feet to go. It's a start. Gives me some more space to stand.

Having no other practical way of getting rid of the water (there is no way I'm admitting to room service that I single-handedly flooded half a bathroom), I decide to do the only thing I can, which is to wring the towel into the bathtub and repeat. So I spend a good half-hour wringing out the water ounce by ounce. Slowly, the blockage collapses in the water, and the toilet starts returning to its normal, albeit still clogged state. The water levels return to normal, that is.

Finally I manage, using a second towel in conjuction with the first to wall off the water in the 1cm-corner and then wring my way to salvation, to return the toilet to its normal state. The only thing left is the occasional strip of water which couldn't be wiped up with a wet towel.

I wash the floor and my hands, and repeat the flush, carefully watching the tank mechanism to be ready to close the pipe at a moment's notice. When I look back I realize that the toilet is back to normal, and my shit is finally finding its way to the ocean.

Hopefully the toilets are bigger in Nashville.

On March 31 2014 09:08 Megapenthes wrote:
Has anyone ever tried, or made it work to any extent? I really enjoy playing DK and although I'm pretty casual I feel like he has some potential... His dair is a great spike once you get used to using it, his neutral b can be really powerful if timed when your opponent is vulnerable... I feel like he seems to have a lot of the strengths that make Ganon somewhat viable.
tl;dr is DK borderline competitive viable? What glaring issues am I missing? Are there examples of DK at competitive tournaments or high level play that I could watch?

On May 05 2012 05:54 Coagulation wrote:
... im living on borrowed time around here. I pretty much have since the day i signed up like 8 years ago..(even I cant help but wonder HOW am I not perma banned yet??? as I sit back and watch vets like charlie fall swiftly to the banhammers of justice.) Anyway I Have pretty much come to the conclusion that If I have any desire of self preservation around these parts it would be in my best interest to retire this account and nod out now before its too late.

to give you guys an idea of what im talking about I have taken the liberty of compiling the majority of my bans/warnings in chronological order.. Its a pretty long read so I cut out all the generic message warnings and bans that I dont understand where they came from or what they are for or who they are from.

My first ban. from back in early 06 Beyonder popped my cherry gently but firmly.. ushering in my newfound higher standard of posting.
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Next I have a couple warnings from multiple concerned mods about this gem of a thread.
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My second ban was from rekrul for this whopper of a fail thread.. it pains me to look back on this and see how bad I have failed beyonder in upping my post quality ( and even more so today). good luck trying to figure out what exactly I was doing cause I dont even remember. I think this was back when I could still edit my posts when I was banned so I kept posting in it till it got closed.
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and shortly after the introduction of the snazzy new automated ban and warning system I got my first real warning from the man himself.
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my next warning was unfortunately not signed by a mod/admin so I have no idea who gave it to me or what it was about..
"shrug"
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My next warning was a warning from a mod warning me not to warn the mods. unfortunatly I rather not disclose the circumstances on that one as there is security sensitive information related. Needless to say it was a joke but +1 regardless

The next warning (im gonna assume it was from plexa i dont know it wasnt signed ) was a pretty unreasonable one imo but w/e Its not my place to judge. I think kangaroos can add positive discussion to ANY topic.
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my next warning was from intrigue for an accidental repost. I worded my post pretty poorly so I prolly deserved it.
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this next post was so bad that apparently mods felt inclined to stack warnings. some kind of warning 2.0 system.
Looking back on it I probably deserved a perma ban.
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My next warning comes from a bad habit I have of seeking out really bad posts as soon as they pop up in general and posting something completely offtopic and probably offensive as the first reply. I have no idea who warned me

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My next warning is from manifesto and pretty self explanatory

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next up is a warning from nyovne. apparently he interperated my post as flame bait. maybe hes right but I dont think that was my intentions at the time.
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first temp ban in a while.. just a friendly reminder that I suck and should take a week to think about it...

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My next temp ban is 2 days compliments of

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My next warning came from this thread when I defended someone who got perm banned for a really piss poor reason imo. I dont know if people remember the maji guy who posted in general about being an alien and preparing for the coming invasion etc. I personally thought it was funny as fuck but admins banned him and I got a warning for asking why in thread. wich had lead to this exchange of PM with mods.

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My next temp ban is 1 week for taking hostages. (to be fair it only lasted 2 days)
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Another warning here for I have no idea what the problem here is but... no idea who its from but they apparently have warned me before. Looking back at it I think the person who warned me over reacted alot. I dont see any insulting or anything of that nature in my post but maybe it was a case of multiple posts on that day.. anyway If in doubt its prolly my fault.
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next ban up is a two weeker. pretty much 100% deserved. probably should be a perm level post.
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Next up a warning that im honestly not sure what I did or why it was such a big deal but this ones a pretty mean one.

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Next up a warning for using red text.. in a post. pretty lame.
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wat
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a warning from {CC}StealthBlue probably for all caps more than my idiotic post content.
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A warning from p4NDemik.. It was a joke im thinking he misunderstood. w/e.

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A warning from ToKoreaWithLove for being a little too blunt about the mishaps in mafia.
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I win my next temp ban in the ABL
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This one is one of my favorite also most recent and what prompted me to make this post and make an effort to save my account from my own self inflicted bad posting.
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Hopefully If anyone is to walk away from reading all these warnings/bans stupidity on my part etc with having learned something I would hope it would be this.

Teamliquid as strict as it may be is not some super evil entity out to ban and wipe out anyone that they dont agree with.
I am living walking proof of this. TL.net has given me more chances than I honestly ever deserved because at the end of the day they just want to make me and you a better person. to make their home a better place.

Anyway Im going to retire this account. I would like to apologize to TL mods for being a twat over the years and thank them for putting up with me.

hopefully some day I will come back.. maybe 10 years down the road.. when the mods have all forgotten how bad of a poster I really am and its safe for me to come out again.. but for now.. for now as much as it sucks I have a couple tiny bits of unfinished business with the mafia ban list but after that I must say goodbye.

On April 06 2013 10:48 Coagulation wrote:
this is why you should worship satan. The prince of darkness never makes you do lame shit like suck on baby weewees.

On August 27 2010 21:04 Mora wrote:
LGBT and friends IRC channel: #gteamliquid

LGBT SC2 and friends chat channel: GTL

Hi. My name is Mora. I am the local queer Starcraft player, and i write this post with the intentions of allowing other gay Starcraft players to find each other.

Possibly You: What does sexuality have to do with Video Games? I don't care if someone is gay or not, it just shouldn't be on an SC2 forum.

Well, no.

It's so difficult to start somewhere in this explanation. blarhg

When you're gay you don't know if you belong anywhere. You're taught, culturally, that it's disgusting and wrong. It's cool to be cool with people who are gay, but it's disgusting to want to have a dick in your mouth.

You ask questions like: If i talk, will everyone know that i'm gay? Will my friends still be my friends if they knew? Will my family still love me? Am i less of a man because i like other men? Am i male enough to hang out with heterosexual men?

This kind of minority is tricky. Before you have a chance to gain experience in gay culture, you don't have the tools to indentify who is gay and who isn't. The only people who are gay are the flamboyant guys on your TV screen and the faggot who gets beat up at lunch time because he likes to wear pink jeans (though in bigger cities this is less the case). We don't have any way to indentify each other. We can't see the only other asian/white kid/wheelchair/fatty in our school and go "hey, we can join forces against haters and be without hate".

And the hate is a different kind too. Being gay is about what you're aroused by. It's a deviation in carnal human behaviour. When someone hates you for that deviation, you feel that you can't argue with them. That It's not wrong to hate something disgusting. You understand that disgust because you’ve experienced it in the other direction – that the thought of sticking my tongue inside a dank vagina made me want to puke. That when i would watch straight porn, and see the tits bouncing around, i would lose my erection.

You sympathize with the disgust.

That's fucked.

So then many of us tend towards a hobby or a lifestyle that will be inclined to bring us in contact with other gays. We shy away from sports, we befriend more women than men, we learn to like fashion; we become masters at gossip.

But i like sports. I didn't get the fashion gene. I like to have conversations about things that are interesting, not trivialities regarding who said hi to whom.

I like strategy games.

So where do i find another guy that has the same interests?

Imagine if the only place you could meet girls was an internet forum called "Heterosexuality". You've never seen them in class. You've not seen them on the street. You've never had a conversation with one, you've never even made contact. Man, that would suck.

It does suck.

So i've created this thread for a few reasons.
1) For gays to find other gays that actually have something in common, other than their seuxality.
2) For gays to ask questions. I have a lot of experience with sexuality and gender psychology.
3) For everyone else to ask questions. Want to know if gaydar really exists? Want to know how gays figure out who gets to be on top or the bottom? Why do gays talk with a lisp anyway? Does Mora really have a crush on Incontrol?

Go!

edit - If you're question is more personal and you do not want it broadcasted on tl.net, feel free to send me a private message.

On March 31 2014 11:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Umm......well ok.

I don't suppose anyone has a time machine that can bring us to day two?

On March 31 2014 07:11 Xatalos wrote:

Not Voting ("6") - austinmcc, Hopeless1der, thrawn2112, JarJarDrinks, Vivax, gumshoe

On March 31 2014 11:39 Hopeless1der wrote:

I'm content to drown in my sea of apathy. No idea about jjd or Austin.

On March 31 2014 11:45 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm up for policylynching slam so that this stops. Anyone else?

On March 31 2014 03:16 Tehpoofter wrote:
Actual read on slam is I don't like him he might be mafia claiming the role and rayn brought that up earlier I believe and if he was pushing him for that I wouldn't be suspicious of him but I don't like you want to vote him because you think he is survivor.

If he is survivor I think there is a good way to deal with him in that case.

On March 31 2014 12:37 austinmcc wrote:
thrawn i will make up future items as long as people don't kill me. Perhaps you can receive one.

your filter has so many actual one-liners in it. Not the worst kind, just lots and lots of little posts. If I were to be a psychologist, administering a Rorschach test to you, and I showed you an inkblot that looked like the letters A-M-I-K-O, what things might come to mind when you look at that picture?

On March 31 2014 12:48 austinmcc wrote:
What's a maddox? I only know of the pitcher, and google just pulled up car dealerships. Also, washing machine, dishwasher, or power washer?

On March 31 2014 12:48 austinmcc wrote:
What's a maddox? I only know of the pitcher, and google just pulled up car dealerships. Also, washing machine, dishwasher, or power washer?

On March 31 2014 12:51 austinmcc wrote:
Oh. A mattock? They are ... fun to use. I've never attacked a wall with one though.





that?

On March 31 2014 12:58 austinmcc wrote:
Didn't he model it after his cat?

On April 01 2014 04:28 JarJarDrinks wrote:
my god people. Aslam gave us a free lynch. He could be scum, he could be SK, and the worst case scenario is we lynch someone who has no reason to help town win. It's autoplay.

On April 01 2014 04:35 Amiko wrote:


@austinmcc & @kushm4sta can you explain why you would prefer to vote off gumshoe over slam? I do not actually know that is your preference but will take Djoref's word for it for now.

To be frank and direct, I think non-town would prefer to keep a 3rd party role alive as a potential asset later in the game so I am suspicious of this preference. (obviously if slam is actually scum then there are other simple reasons you would prefer he live)

On April 01 2014 04:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Slam, suppose town was willing to make a deal with you.

A deal works both ways.

We give you lynch immunity so that you survive until endgame. Mafia will not shoot you over town. You will therefore be guaranteed to win.

You give us your role name and role and if we feel that you can use it to find mafia, you help us out. Mods have confirmed you can share your role. You would be allowed to post slammy stuff to your hearts content and nobody would have a problem. I'd even be willing to join in. Think of how much fun that would be!

Sound good?

On April 01 2014 05:06 kitaman27 wrote:


Suppose slam is a survivor, has a role that we could force him to use in a pro-town or a role that can be confirmed, you don't care what he says?

We don't need to believe him. If he lies, then he lies. If he is truthful, then we get to pick how he uses his role in exchange for his survival, rather than having a neutral player choose to use their role to their personal benefit. In PTP, I was forced to roleclaim as survivor and town eventually lynched it for me because I was shooting townies left and right. Remember?

To be honest, I'd even be interested in hearing a fake claim to give us a better idea of potential roles in the setup.

On April 01 2014 05:18 austinmcc wrote:
SORRY FOR SPAM BUT WHY DO YOU BELIEVE SLAM BUT YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME?

HE CLAIMED TO BE A SURVIVOR AND YOU JUST TRUST HIM OR THINK HE'S LYING AND A BAD DUDE.

I CLAIMED TO A BIRD/THUNDER GOD AND WHY WON'T YOU GUYS JUST WORSHIP ME AND MAKE PAINTINGS OF ME AND ELECT ME BIRD GOD OF THIS GAME?

##vote: austinmcc for Bird God

On April 01 2014 05:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A few facts.
1) kitaman is mafia.
2) austin is mafia because he devoted all his day in talking nonsense, ending up his vote on a guy who he never tried to get lynched. He doesn't even think i am mafia yet he does nothing to get his lynch through. Also he defend a third faction. rofl.
3) this town is terrible and i am happy i am not in the game in ~40min. noone in this town has balls to stand behind their townreads. noone is this town has balls to fucking push their scumread. Noone in this town has fucking balls to do anything other than lurk or talk shit.
4) town deserves to lose.
5) Good job retards you killed your shrink.

On April 01 2014 05:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
i hope slam is jester lol

On April 01 2014 05:43 Vivax wrote:
Can we please vote for Kaslam and not rayn?

On April 01 2014 05:47 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Where does lynching town fall on ur scale? Cause if we lynch slam then that can't happen.

On April 01 2014 05:50 kitaman27 wrote:
lol assuming that austin and thrawn move their vote shortly, it's 6-6. We must put our faith in gumshoe.

On April 01 2014 05:52 Vivax wrote:
thrawn and kita vote slam and postpone any possible scum lynches we can't be sure of at this stage. It's good play to buy time lynching a wildcard

On April 01 2014 05:54 JarJarDrinks wrote:
well hopefully rayn moves to slam @ least

On April 01 2014 05:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
That's like exactly what I've been saying.

On April 01 2014 06:19 kitaman27 wrote:
heh mafia must be having a jolly good time in their qt.

On April 01 2014 06:20 Toadesstern wrote:


anyone else thinks this is a thing to be concerned of now?

On April 01 2014 07:01 thrawn2112 wrote:
slam why are you still angry? you didn't get lynched right? what's there to be salty about?

On April 01 2014 07:05 Tehpoofter wrote:


Slam I'm curious why are you so sure you will be lynched? have you really just given up on the game?

Alternatively lets go into far-fetched land where you're trying to help town win... who would you want to look at as scum? And if I could get my answer in not riddle/gibberish format you might be my favorite.

On April 01 2014 07:11 Tehpoofter wrote:


What is the "this"? the way you're acting or the rayn lynch or what?

On April 01 2014 09:42 Tehpoofter wrote:
@Slam how do I unstart it? is there a code or something?

On April 01 2014 10:49 Alakaslam wrote:
*maf totes on Rayn

See he had sheep POWAH and when town has strong leader (even if he cannot be arsed to let a dude he called confirmed town be that in practice) it is more likely to catch scum via wisdom of the crowds.

"Tofu sobu du blehh."

Yeah and they knew he was not maf too better than null 3p lynch, and they hit blue no less

Of course they don't realize nuclear dragon of bamcis gonna win the game tonite

On April 01 2014 10:35 Tehpoofter wrote:



So austin reads vivax as town I think hes mafia. Do you think that austin should believe me cause I'm a boss and probably right or should I realize the error of my ways and follow austin to the promise land?

On April 01 2014 11:00 thrawn2112 wrote:
yep, what slam just said. You and austin are both pretty strong town reads for me. Toad seems town, i guess? He made a pont about him becoming less worried about me after i started responding to him normally, and now i'd like to make the pont that I like that he likes that i started responding to him normally. The only voter not on the rayn wagon was gumshoe. Simply due to the number of town reads I have, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he was mafia. Austin made a good pont earlier n that his inactivity shouldn't be alignment indicative becasue he posts more as scum and town, but it's his willingness to troll about flavor and be absolutely useless when he does post that makes him scummy.

I still thnk that kita was probably right, that there wern't that many mafia members on D1. Or even if it was some sort of X role (i cant remember the role name, it';s where you are mafia but dont know alignments and your team has to find you) then they would still be hard to find becaue they'd be posting without information about alignments, so they would look like town.

So I think the remaining (likely few, or few "catchable" mafia) would be on the rayn wagon.

kushm4sta, hopeless1der, kitaman27, Amiko, raynpelikoneet (5)

hosts can you clarify that the final votecount which showed 6 on rayn is correct

I didnt pay full attention to the argument slam had about the votecounts but didn't hosts confirm that the count was accurate? that would be there are some hidden voting mechanics going on. People need to claim this ASAP if this is the case imo.

So who on that list is likely to be mafia? I doubt it's kita. I was slightly townreading him for his gimmick at the start of the game, and he made a very casual post near the deadline about "here comes the swtich" which I don't excpect to come form a scum player who is about to get their mislynch. I don't thionk hopeless is scum, i'd like to sheep rayn and austin's reads on him. Amiko I previously thought was town, I will read his filter again and tell you what I think in a bit. But I remember townreading him for all the research he did at the start of the game.

and that leads me to.....

KUSH get the fuck in here

On April 01 2014 11:03 thrawn2112 wrote:
if you have some way to influence the vote secretly and don't tell us now, and we find out later, you are fucked. so best come clean now

On April 01 2014 11:10 thrawn2112 wrote:
tbh, toad, just because he's the only person to claim weird voting mechanics. i'm not sure how to reconcile that with my read on him though. beause I think that if someone put an extra vote on the rayn train and didn't tell us then that is a highly mafia motivated action.

On April 01 2014 11:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
slam you are a bastard

On April 01 2014 12:12 thrawn2112 wrote:
i think we can deduce if the vote changing is mafia or townie based on what effect the votes have on the game

fact: rayn is town
fact: whoever caused the extra vote did not claim it
(future fact: the voter will probably not claim his vote)

seems like a mafia power to me.

On April 02 2014 07:50 Amiko wrote:
I’m back in thread, I want to mostly comment about the nuke but if anyone wants me to weigh in on something else specifically just let me know.

Giving JJD a Nuke
At the risk of incurring a terrible AlakaCurse… I talked earlier about the Alakaslam vs. gumshoe. I felt Alakaslam was a better safe lynch because
(1) gumshoe was idle(town/scum/3p), Alakaslam was spammy(scum/3p)
(2) if Slam is a survivor or 3p, mafia may want to keep him alive.

Of the people who commented or voted, the preference was:
Alakslam preference: Amiko, JarJarDrinks, Djodref, Vivax, kitaman27 (encouraged slam over gumshoe)
Gumshoe preference: Austinmcc, kushm4sta, thrawn2112, Alakaslam (obvious), tehpoofter
Did not comment or I missed it: Toadesstern, hope1ess
(Hope1ess did vote slam earlier, but I don’t feel he commented on Alakaslam vs. gumshoe)

I mention this both because it may be helpful for me to review later, but also because I feel if someone was going to give the nuke to a player to kill Slam, JJD is a consistent choice with the views expressed yesterday.

Fire ze missiles?
I don’t feel too strongly about whether you nuke slam or someone else today.
However, my preference is absolutely that you use the nuke today because if you hold onto it you are at the very least a tempting conversion/kill target (if you are not scum/3p already).

I have no objection to nuking slam. I do think it is possible to use this nuke as a stick to ensure Slam helps town, but I feel like that comes with a lot of liabilities.
… however, if slam becomes an irradiated hulk monster, well, may god have mercy on our souls.

On April 02 2014 08:00 Amiko wrote:
@hope1essrider: I am tempted to sheep dead rayn and feel like usually it's a good idea. But, I have trouble seeing how rayn could be so confident in his vote d1. Have you played with rayn before, do you know if he always presents a d1 read as a sure thing? Or does he only do so when he is sure?

I could read rayn's games a bit but I'd like to be in thread a little longer before I disappear to reread something else, and it'd be nice to hear from some of the players who have been with him before since they may disagree on rayn's meta.

On April 02 2014 07:51 Hopeless1der wrote:

1- I did find those points valid. I also have the ghost of confirmed rayn-"LYNCHSLAM100%_unlessyoufind100%mafia_ohlookKitamanismafia"-pelikoneet whispering in my ear. Again, this is not my own read, its sheeping the dead man.

2- The nuke that JJD is about to launch?

On April 02 2014 08:19 Amiko wrote:


Slam don't you feel the game might be more fun if there was a constant threat of a nuke?

Also I'll mention that since no one died last night, it seems significantly less likely that Slam is a serial killer (I remember someone proposed that yesterday).

On April 02 2014 06:08 Toadesstern wrote:
How likely is it that mafia would think shooting me would be a good idea?

On April 02 2014 06:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
@thrawn damn.


JJD I really want to know about your invention please stop by and indulge us.... Slam do you have any insight like did you get notified of receiving something?

On April 02 2014 08:35 kushm4sta wrote:
akala did you actually read kitas filter or you just saying stuff?

On April 02 2014 08:42 Amiko wrote:
@Alakaslam - I think you are the default choice for a nuke (it literally has your name on it). If JJD doesn't nuke you, should he

a) wait to use the nuke?
b) nuke someone else?

and why/who?

Original Message From Xatalos:
"You are Prisoner Zero, a multi-form shape-shifting alien, on the run from the Atraxi after you escaped their prison. Being a shape-shifting alien allows you to evade all checks, so you are immune to all cop checks and will show up as town. You are also immune to conversions and your win condition cannot change.

You win with either the Town or the Cybermen, but you must be alive at the end of the game to do so because you are a Survivor.

---

Fake Claim:

You are Alfie Owens, son of Craig Owens, but you prefer to be called ""Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All."" Thankfully “Also Not Mum” is in this game otherwise the “Peasants” wouldn’t be able to understand you because you’re a baby. Hopefully, nothing will happen to him because you won’t be able to communicate effectively if he were to disappear. (Not really, you can still talk even if something happens to “Also Not Mum,” aka the Doctor, lol.)

You win with the Town."

Original Message From CHUPAZI duplakfish:
"You are Prisoner Hirohito, a multi-form shape-shifting alien, on the run from the Americans after they threatened to Nuke your cities. Being a shape-shifting alien allows you to evade all checks, so you are immune to all cop checks and will show up as town. You are also immune to conversions and your win condition cannot change.

You win with either the Town or the Hitler, but you must be alive at the end of the game to do so because you are a Survivor.

---

Fake Claim:

You are Winston Churchill, son of Lord Churchill, but you prefer to be called ""Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All."" Thankfully “Josef Stalin” is in this game otherwise the “Peasants” wouldn’t be able to understand you because you’re not a Russian speaker. Hopefully, nothing will happen to him because you won’t be able to communicate effectively if he were to disappear. (Not really, you can still talk even if something happens to “Josef Stalin,” aka the Veteran, lol.)

You win with the Town."

On April 02 2014 08:52 kitaman27 wrote:
slam, why not post that yesterday when I asked and hosts said you could? Why wait until you're a nuke target.

I'm kinda inclined to suggest firing the nuke into the mafia suspects to be honest, rather than going after likely third party. Not sure I'd trust his claim since he seemed so upset about it and survivor isn't really rage inducing, but until we flip our first mafia he isn't really a priority.

Reading now for top to suspects.

On April 02 2014 08:57 kitaman27 wrote:
Hmm, you're allowed to post roles I believe.



This was the only reference to a survivor that I could find from slam in past games. I suppose it supports the idea that he views the role to be boring to play.

On April 02 2014 13:23 kushm4sta wrote:
austin man you gotta lay off that cocaine

On April 04 2014 02:18 austinmcc wrote:
slam could you please read amiko and ... your choice of vivax/kita?

If you're not mafia, would be nice to get your thoughts from you before end of day. If mafia, still nice to get your thoughts.

If you're super super super uninterested in that, could you just read amiko's response to my zoo questions and tell me what you think about that post and the other zoo posts?